Star Trek: General Discussion

[wiegeabo]

That top of that list matches mine.

But Search for Spock at the bottom? Ouch.
I'd put it above Generations in that list, or at least right under it. but still in the best section.

My bottom four would be
Nemesis
Motion Picture (Director's Cut. Regular cut probably at the bottom)
Final Frontier
Insurrection (maybe above Final Frontier depending on my mood that day)

 

[Baggers]

That top of that list matches mine.

But Search for Spock at the bottom? Ouch.
I'd put it above Generations in that list, or at least right under it. but still in the best section.

My bottom four would be
Nemesis
Motion Picture (Director's Cut. Regular cut probably at the bottom)
Final Frontier
Insurrection (maybe above Final Frontier depending on my mood that day)

Nah Search for Spock isn't last, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is, just the way I did the lists, I can see how it seems abit confusing I'm sorry, this is how I see them from best to worst in one big list:

*Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
*Star Trek
*Star Trek: First Contact
*Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
*Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
*Star Trek Generations
*Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
*Star Trek:The Motion Picture
*Star Trek: Insurrection
*Star Trek: Nemesis
*Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

 

[Doctor Jones]

I don't hate The Motion Picture nor do I love it. It's cool just soooo long and in some parts nothing happens, and maybe alil too 2001ish in parts which didn't feel and gel right with Star Trek to me. I love the scale of space and V'ger, it makes space seem big and empty and not the place we used to seeing like in things like Star Wars, Star Trek, etc

That's what I heard. Which to me sounds like that's not what ST is in the first place. So it tried to be something it shouldn't of been? Is that part of the reason it didn't work?

I guess I could watch it. I watched 2001, a brilliant film, but it does move slowly, so I'm sure I can watch this.

 

[Baggers]

That's what I heard. Which to me sounds like that's not what ST is in the first place. So it tried to be something it shouldn't of been? Is that part of the reason it didn't work?

I guess I could watch it. I watched 2001, a brilliant film, but it does move slowly, so I'm sure I can watch this.

Yup, the film went away from the Star Trek formula. It did try too hard to be 2001 which hurt the film so much.

 

[Sawyer]

Great song.

But Sawyer I can't help but chuckle when I listen to to this and look at your avatar. t:

up:

 

[wiegeabo]

Nah Search for Spock isn't last, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is, just the way I did the lists, I can see how it seems abit confusing I'm sorry, this is how I see them from best to worst in one big list:

*Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
*Star Trek
*Star Trek: First Contact
*Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
*Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
*Star Trek Generations
*Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
*Star Trek:The Motion Picture
*Star Trek: Insurrection
*Star Trek: Nemesis
*Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Can't argue with that list.

Well, I can. I'd probably put SFS above Generations.

But that's it. The bottom three constantly shift positions depending on my mood.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well from the TNG era of movies my faves are Generations and First Contact the rest are meh. But I heard the special features on the TNG blu-ray boxset is cool, so one of the main reasons why I'm getting it

I have a few ST movies and before the one this year FC was the only one I ever liked, so that is the only one I will be buying.

Honestly they are the only ones I have seen and I loved both of them.

I have seen the others, just didnt think much of them, even the fabled Wrath Of Khan.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yup, the film went away from the Star Trek formula. It did try too hard to be 2001 which hurt the film so much.

Hmm...

So are there long ass shots of the ships and Kirk and Spock talking to HAL? t:

 

[Baggers]

Can't argue with that list.

Well, I can. I'd probably put SFS above Generations.

But that's it. The bottom three constantly shift positions depending on my mood.

To me The Final Frontier is god awful I still haven't watched it on Blu-Ray yet. It's the only one out of the TOS era of Star Trek films I haven't and don't wanna watch lol. When me and my mates had a Star Trek film marathon before the release of Star Trek, we missed that film out, we couldn't be arsed to watch it lol

Also Nemesis on paper sounds amazing but on film it's like WTF!!

 

[wiegeabo]

Hmm...

So are there long ass shots of the ships and Kirk and Spock talking to HAL? t:

Long as shots of the Enterprise and V'Ger.

 

[Baggers]

Hmm...

So are there long ass shots of the ships and Kirk and Spock talking to HAL? t:

Hal or maybe the Monolith who knows lol

Also yup there are some long ass shots, me and my mates were sad enough to time the shot of the Enterprise refit in a spaceyard. The shot lasted for close to 6 minutes!! lol

 

[Doctor Jones]

Six minutes???

Good God not even 2001 had shots that went on for that long. I think the most was two minutes.

That's just wrong. I read about the production of the first and then the seocnd and I remember laughing because the exec said, "Can you make it for less than forty-five-****ing-million-dollars?"

 

[Baggers]

Six minutes???

Good God not even 2001 had shots that went on for that long. I think the most was two minutes.

That's just wrong. I read about the production of the first and then the seocnd and I remember laughing because the exec said, "Can you make it for less than forty-five-****ing-million-dollars?"

Yup close to 6 minutes!! it's a mad long shot, I understand what they was doing but after 3 minutes I was like c'mon just get inside the goddamm ship now!! lol. I love how Wrath of Khan uses an extremely edited version of that shot

 

[C. Lee]

STTMP is hard to classify. It isn't in the tone of the series or the other movies (it's slow moving, enigmatic, very cerebral)....but it's good science fiction and emotional drama.

 

[wiegeabo]

STTMP is hard to classify. It isn't in the tone of the series or the other movies (it's slow moving, enigmatic, very cerebral)....but it's good science fiction and emotional drama.

The thing about TMP is that it is good sci-fi. Not necessarily good Trek. You could pretty much substitute all the characters and Trek references in the movie out, turning it into a non-franchise film, and it would be relatively unchanged.

The other movies are very much intertwined with the Trek-verse. TMP only has a couple of moments like that.

 

[C. Lee]

Did anyone else watch the 2009 Scream awards on SPIKE tonight? It showed the deleted scene of Nero being interogated by a Klingon, and then escaping.

 

[wiegeabo]

What?!

Dammit


Would it have worked in the movie?

 

[Gmanofsteel]

I wish I had cable, grrrrrrrr

 

[C. Lee]

What I saw looked fantastic. I don't know if there is more filmed or not that wasn't shown tonight that would have merged it into the rest of the movie....but it was cool.

Nero tied down and Klingon asking him about a ship with a special weapon.....the Klingon handles a rumpled piece of paper with a handdrawn pic of Spock....the Klingon brings over the critter that Nero later used on Pike....a couple of Klingons dragging the limp Nero away, and he surprises them and whups thier butts....he goes down corridor and releases his second in command.

 

[C. Lee]

The show was shown twice tonight. I missed the first showing and had the second one on in the background as I surfed the net....if I had known they were going to show this, I would have recorded it. I can only hope that they rerun it again in a few days.

 

[T'Jai]

Wed Night between 12 and 2

 

[Webhead2006]

the klingon scene was pretty cool. Was that creature used in star trek 2 by khan?

 

[El_Citrus]

the klingon scene was pretty cool. Was that creature used in star trek 2 by khan?

Nope. Khan used a Ceti Eel, while the Klingons/Nero used Centaurian Slugs.

I did watch the Scream awards last night and thought the Star Trek scene kicked all kinds of ass. With a couple transition scenes such as the Klingons finding Nero's ship after it was damaged, a couple more scenes on Rura Penthe, and the Narada going on its rampage against the Klingon fleet, I think it would have worked really well in the context of the film and may have actually filled in a lot of gaps.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

What I saw looked fantastic. I don't know if there is more filmed or not that wasn't shown tonight that would have merged it into the rest of the movie....but it was cool.

Nero tied down and Klingon asking him about a ship with a special weapon.....the Klingon handles a rumpled piece of paper with a handdrawn pic of Spock....the Klingon brings over the critter that Nero later used on Pike....a couple of Klingons dragging the limp Nero away, and he surprises them and whups thier butts....he goes down corridor and releases his second in command.

Oh my god, that sounds like an amzing scene, wish it would have been kept in the movie!

 

[C. Lee]

Nope. Khan used a Ceti Eel, while the Klingons/Nero used Centaurian Slugs.

I did watch the Scream awards last night and thought the Star Trek scene kicked all kinds of ass. With a couple transition scenes such as the Klingons finding Nero's ship after it was damaged, a couple more scenes on Rura Penthe, and the Narada going on its rampage against the Klingon fleet, I think it would have worked really well in the context of the film and may have actually filled in a lot of gaps.

Yeah, I hope that there were some connecting scenes shot. I would love to see this in the movie.