Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[TrailerCues]

Im just getting annoyed waiting to find out if the new slimline stargate boxsets will be released over here in the UK because id like to sell all my big boxsets asap to get as much money as poss.

Im annoyed that I brought the big box sets last summer & now want the slimline

 

[LadyVader]

Stop you're whining. At least your getting boxsets.


Some of us living in a third world country don't have that luxury.

 

[TrailerCues]

Stop you're whining

If you can whine I can whine & you know you can order these things Online. Just make sure to have a DVD Player that plays the region & there are pretty cheap Players out there that plays all regions. You have no point in whining as you have other options.

 

[LadyVader]

Yes I can whine all I bloody want since a) my country isn't even on most sites lists, or b) they simply don't ship here or c) if they do, the shipping costs more then said product. Trust me, I have investigated the matter.

 

[TrailerCues]

Okay you can whine

 

[Superfreak]

Yes I can whine all I bloody want since a) my country isn't even on most sites lists, or b) they simply don't ship here or c) if they do, the shipping costs more then said product. Trust me, I have investigated the matter.

but, doesn't being in a 3rd world country give you the ability to buy all that stuff REALLY cheap, maybe even free?

 

[LadyVader]

The point I was trying to make is not that I have the right to whine, though I do, but rather that you shouldn't. It's not like they're making these boxsets, and dvd's and stuff for me. They're making them for you.

So bloody well enjoy it.

 

[LadyVader]

but, doesn't being in a 3rd world country give you the ability to buy all that stuff REALLY cheap, maybe even free?

What utopian society, do you live in?

 

[Superfreak]

They have already stated on the show that the only thing that the wraith had on the Ancients was sheer numbers, They just kept coming and coming kinda like the Vietnam war in space. SGA never faced the Wraith at full force because they were hibernating and spread out through the Pegasus galaxy except for the one episode when they attacked Atlantis and the SGA team had to trick them into thinking the city was gone.

Yap yap yap. In the what 2 years, and 1 episode that SGA has been going, they've destroyed what, almost 10 hive ships? 2 the other night, they got one with the weapons satelite, Deadulus nuked 1 in orbit of the Atlantis planet, Sheppard nuked 1. Deadulus also nuked a couple as they approached atlantis.

Moreover, we saw that the Orion, on the brink of falling apart, was able to destroy a hive ship without any problems (so to speak, it was destroyed, but it was a space hulk refirbished over the summer). So it's safe to assume that the ancients had many of those ships (considering how many weapons platform satelites they had.

We undermanned, undereducated, rather savage humans, have managed so far to wipe out 10% of the wraith in 2 years.

So again I ask, how is it that the ancients weren't able to deal? At this rate, the wraith will only last a couple of more seasons. So don't give me the stupid, and obviously poorly written excuse of 'there are lots more wraith'. Tell me why?

is it that the wraith are actually ancients, converted into wraith (which would result in a kind of borgesque race, where the ancients numbers were depleted, which in turn saw a growth in wraith population). Could it be that? (even though i think it's been otherwise stated that the Wraith are bugs, that assumed ancient traits, could it be the otherway around?)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The Atlantis expedition has destroyed so many hive ships because of the Asgard's beaming technology. It seems to me that the Asgard mastered teleportation technology while the Ancients moved their efforts elsewhere. So far as we've seen, the rings are the only teleportation tech that the Ancients used. So, if there weren't ring transports on the hive ships, the Ancients couldn't have beamed weapons over the way the humans now can.

Also, the Ancients faced a race of thriving Wraith, who were multiplying exponentially all the time. They didn't just have a number advantage, they had an enormous number advantage. In the present, the Atlantis expedition is facing a much less numerous batch of Wraith whose food supply is nowhere near big enough to sustain the numbers they have now, let alone the numbers they had when facing the Ancients. That leads to the Wraith's having to choose their battles a lot more carefully and employ strategy now, which they're obviously not very good at since their only tactic in the Ancients' time was apparently swarming. Add to that the fact that the dwindling food supply is now creating civil war among the Wraith and it's not hard to see them as a much weaker, even dying race in the present, as opposed to the thriving swarm they were in the Ancients' day.

The way I understood it, the Wraith to the Ancients were like the Goa'uld and the Replicators combined--highly intelligent, capable of stealing and adapting their enemies' superior tech, and exponentially more numerous. I have no doubt that the Ancients could've easily wiped out the starving, infighting Wraith of today with little trouble. The fact that the humans are faring so well is logical given that they seem to have at least one effective trick over the Ancients, courtesy of the Asgard, and the enemy they face is itself much less fearsome.

 

[Superfreak]

remember, that trick only worked once.

I just think the wraith should be a little more deadly. I mean, weren't they psychic? That seemed to dissappear. And a hungry animal, is much more deadly and vicious than a well fed one.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

True, but billions of well-fed animals are more dangerous than a few thousand hungry ones.

 

[LadyVader]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs_eSZIU04A



Do they actually make stargate bobbleheads?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It appears they do.

 

[Superfreak]

The long awaited crossover next week: Spoilers ahead













The SG-1 team travels to Atlantis to attempt to establish a stable wormhole to the Ori Supergate, which will prevent the Ori from sending more ships to Earth's galaxy. In order to do so, Carter (Amanda Tapping) and McKay (David Hewlett) must detonate precisely calibrated nuclear warheads to cause a wormhole to "jump" from a nearby Spacegate to the Supergate, without destroying their ship, the Odyssey, in the process.

Meanwhile, Daniel (Michael Shanks) and Vala (Claudia Black) take advantage of their time at Atlantis to research the Atlantis database for clues to the location of Merlin's weapon. During their research, they are met by Morgan Le Fay, an ascended Ancient posing as the Lantian holographic interface, who gives them the names of two planets where the device may be located. But can she be trusted?

Weir (Torri Higginson) detects a Wraith ship headed towards the Odyssey, and is unable to relay the message due to the interference of the nearby black hole. And the Odyssey detects an Ori ship headed toward the Supergate. Will the team be able to complete their mission before they are attacked?

 

[Superfreak]

oh, and just an SGA sidenote. I wanna see Sheppard's extra spicy female ascended ancient GF again. She was a total hottie.

 

[Speedball]

Found this in the Misc. Films forum.

Producer-writer Dean Devlin confirmed today at the San Diego Comic-Con that he is in talks with MGM Studios to shoot parts two and three to his original 1994 sci-fi film Stargate, which starred Kurt Russell and James Spader.

Devlin, speaking to the Comic-Con crowd about his next production, the World War I pilot drama Flyboys, said he has signed a multi-picture deal with MGM and wants the completion of his originally envisioned "Stargate" trilogy to be considered for those slots.

"I'd want the films to stay on track for what the original three were planned to be," said Devlin. "I'd want to let the series stand on their own."

Stargate, a project that no one believed in – according to Devlin, has become an international sensation following successful SCI FI Channel series "SG-1" and "Atlantis." Devlin told attendees that watching what the "Stargate" phenomenon had become has been a great experience – likening it to a dream that had 'come to life, left his head, walked across the street, got married and had children.'

"You can't help but be proud of that," he said

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=15537


If they do not acknowledge the existence of SG-1 and Atlantis, Most people will refuse to see the film, at least I would.

 

[Superfreak]

Found this in the Misc. Films forum.

Producer-writer Dean Devlin confirmed today at the San Diego Comic-Con that he is in talks with MGM Studios to shoot parts two and three to his original 1994 sci-fi film Stargate, which starred Kurt Russell and James Spader.

Devlin, speaking to the Comic-Con crowd about his next production, the World War I pilot drama Flyboys, said he has signed a multi-picture deal with MGM and wants the completion of his originally envisioned "Stargate" trilogy to be considered for those slots.

"I'd want the films to stay on track for what the original three were planned to be," said Devlin. "I'd want to let the series stand on their own."

Stargate, a project that no one believed in – according to Devlin, has become an international sensation following successful SCI FI Channel series "SG-1" and "Atlantis." Devlin told attendees that watching what the "Stargate" phenomenon had become has been a great experience – likening it to a dream that had 'come to life, left his head, walked across the street, got married and had children.'

"You can't help but be proud of that," he said

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=15537


If they do not acknowledge the existence of SG-1 and Atlantis, Most people will refuse to see the film, at least I would.

I wouldn't refuse to see the movies, but it would be an extremely stupid move on his part to ignore the 2 series. Better to intergrate his ideas into the SG universe as it exists today.

There are a number of approaches that would work IMO. If these 2 new films were to act as prequels, just like the original, leaving the plot at the same point it was at when SG-1 premiered would work IMO. Otherwise, I say no movies.

This is because the ongoing plot of SG1 and SGA are so overly complicated now that it is pretty much umpossible to make a movie right now. Better to do an 'extension' of the original movie that doesn't affect the series in any way, or to wait until SG1 exhausts itself, and pick up with a movie that follows the SG1 series.

 

[Speedball]

Thing is, which actors will they use? Spader and Shanks play the same person. As do Russell and Anderson.

 

[Superfreak]

Thing is, which actors will they use? Spader and Shanks play the same person. As do Russell and Anderson.

you know, they could intergrate the difference into the show. Put SG1 through the quantum mirror, or something like it. Where they meet with their movie counterparts. And we find out that they come from a universe/timeline nearly identical to ours, just with different looking people. Then SG1 goes back to normality, and the series goes on as usual. If handled correctly, and humorously, it could work really well, especially if they get an encounter b/w Kurt Russel and RDA, the funny looks and one liners would be killer.

 

[Speedball]

you know, they could intergrate the difference into the show. Put SG1 through the quantum mirror, or something like it. Where they meet with their movie counterparts. And we find out that they come from a universe/timeline nearly identical to ours, just with different looking people. Then SG1 goes back to normality, and the series goes on as usual. If handled correctly, and humorously, it could work really well, especially if they get an encounter b/w Kurt Russel and RDA, the funny looks and one liners would be killer.

That would be pretty funny.

If they decide not to use the older characters, I hope they decide to make Ben Browder the main character of the films. He's probably the best Sci-Fi actor around.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

oh, and just an SGA sidenote. I wanna see Sheppard's extra spicy female ascended ancient GF again. She was a total hottie.

Watch Blade 2.

Found this in the Misc. Films forum.

Producer-writer Dean Devlin confirmed today at the San Diego Comic-Con that he is in talks with MGM Studios to shoot parts two and three to his original 1994 sci-fi film Stargate, which starred Kurt Russell and James Spader.

Devlin, speaking to the Comic-Con crowd about his next production, the World War I pilot drama Flyboys, said he has signed a multi-picture deal with MGM and wants the completion of his originally envisioned "Stargate" trilogy to be considered for those slots.

"I'd want the films to stay on track for what the original three were planned to be," said Devlin. "I'd want to let the series stand on their own."

Stargate, a project that no one believed in – according to Devlin, has become an international sensation following successful SCI FI Channel series "SG-1" and "Atlantis." Devlin told attendees that watching what the "Stargate" phenomenon had become has been a great experience – likening it to a dream that had 'come to life, left his head, walked across the street, got married and had children.'

"You can't help but be proud of that," he said

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=15537


If they do not acknowledge the existence of SG-1 and Atlantis, Most people will refuse to see the film, at least I would.

I wouldn't refuse to watch it, since I'm curious about what the original story would've been, but it seems pretty hypocritical for him to praise how the series have made Stargate "the little cult film that could" in one breath, and then toss them out the window because they're not part of his almighty vision in the next. Hollywood's supposed to be all about compromises, and this seems like something that's begging for one.

Plus, we all know it was RDA's charisma and sense of humor on SG-1, more than anything else, that made Stargate the success it is today. Even if the episode sucked, I could still enjoy it because RDA was generally hilarious. Sorry, but Kurt Russell ain't got nothing on RDA's O'Neill (two L's).

 

[Superfreak]

Watch Blade 2.

I wouldn't refuse to watch it, since I'm curious about what the original story would've been, but it seems pretty hypocritical for him to praise how the series have made Stargate "the little cult film that could" in one breath, and then toss them out the window because they're not part of his almighty vision in the next. Hollywood's supposed to be all about compromises, and this seems like something that's begging for one.

Plus, we all know it was RDA's charisma and sense of humor on SG-1, more than anything else, that made Stargate the success it is today. Even if the episode sucked, I could still enjoy it because RDA was generally hilarious. Sorry, but Kurt Russell ain't got nothing on RDA's O'Neill (two L's).

yeah, I saw her in that, and also snatched up the Maxim mag with her on the cover. She's a total hottie. If Daniel were to have words with anyone from the SGA galaxy, it would definately have to be her.

 

[Happenstance]

Watch Blade 2.

I wouldn't refuse to watch it, since I'm curious about what the original story would've been, but it seems pretty hypocritical for him to praise how the series have made Stargate "the little cult film that could" in one breath, and then toss them out the window because they're not part of his almighty vision in the next. Hollywood's supposed to be all about compromises, and this seems like something that's begging for one.

Plus, we all know it was RDA's charisma and sense of humor on SG-1, more than anything else, that made Stargate the success it is today. Even if the episode sucked, I could still enjoy it because RDA was generally hilarious. Sorry, but Kurt Russell ain't got nothing on RDA's O'Neill (two L's).

Ive read a few quotes actually from him going on about how he didnt like SG1 that much and felt it was ruining his vision. Im sorry but the original Stargate movie was pretty mediocre and the only thing that is allowing him to make a 2nd and 3rd is SG1's popularity.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Exactly. I just came from the Ain't It Cool News article on it and it just annoyed me how many people are praising the film and throwing barbs at SG-1. Finally, one poster with some sense mentioned that, if not for the series, there would be absolutely no interest in continuing the Stargate movie franchise now. The movie came out over ten years ago.

Anyway, it's obvious that Devlin doesn't care to associate with the show. He's probably just saying nice things about it now under pressure from the PR department to make it look like the movie and TV camps are one, big, happy family so they don't alienate any fans (a.k.a. potential ticket sales). The alternate worlds idea that Superfreak mentioned seems like the best bet for making the show and the soon-to-be movies coexist. I wouldn't mind if they went that route and maybe gave Russell or Spader or both a cameo the next time the Quantum Mirror or some other alternate world device comes up.