Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer

[John Locke]

So instead of getting something that could potentially be the next Shining or original Carrie we're going to get the next Carrie remake or Poltergist remake? Why don't they remake one of the bad King adaptations if they just want to make a generic horror movie?

 

[Marvolo]

I mean... what do you want to know about me?

- King's one of my favorite writers.
- Yes, I've seen True Detective, and as a television show, of course it's impressive and incredible and it's what made me like McConaughey.
- Horror is my favorite genre without question.
- I'm not sure if Fukunaga has the experience to take on such a huge project, or has the capabilities to create a successful product based on something this large. I'm not sure he deserved the keys to the kingdom, in other words. I'm not sure if it's been proven to us that what he could've made would've knocked it out of the park. For all we know, it could've been a massive failure.

If it were 2003, I would've said the EXACT same things about Christopher Nolan (I think I might have), and if I were wrong here, I would've happily admitted it. I just don't have a lot of evidence that screams, "Oh of course! Stephen King's IT!" based on True Detective. Sure, there are creepy things. But that doesn't guarantee a perfect adaptation of this.

Its impressive. Period.

This is where you are going wrong. You're acting like it having been on tv that its somehow less than what it is. That may have been a legitimate position in the 90s, but in 2015 its an uninformed untenable position to take. Writing and directing on HBO and other premium networks is surpassing films in quality.

 

[Rocketman]

Its impressive. Period.

This is where you are going wrong. You're acting like it having been on HBO that its somehow less than what it is. That may have been a legitimate position in the 90s, but in 2015 its an uninformed untenable position to take. Writing and directing on HBO and other premium networks is surpassing films in quality.

Just keep taking my words and having a field day with them.

I'm not saying it's less than what it is. Is it better than a lot of movies? Absolutely. I'm not arguing that. But I'm sorry, if we're saying that movies aren't a completely different ballgame, then this thread has turned into total lunacy.

I'm not stuck in the 90s, man. But I'll share my opinion that television is an inferior medium to film in most cases. Not sure how that can be argued against. :/

 

[Marvolo]

Just keep taking my words and having a field day with them.

I'm not saying it's less than what it is. Is it better than a lot of movies? Absolutely. I'm not arguing that. But I'm sorry, if we're saying that movies aren't a completely different ballgame, then this thread has turned into total lunacy.

I'm not stuck in the 90s, man. But I'll share my opinion that television is an inferior medium to film in most cases. Not sure how that can be argued against. :/

HBO's writing and drama series these days are viewed as being on par and at times better than modern film. Thats not lunacy. Its just the facts of the time, and the type of praise HBO is receiving now. Why do you think HBO is drawing in the acters and acteesses it is? HBO is not viewed as a step down from film. Its viewed as a step up and a superior form because it isnt just loud bombastic bangs and cgi fests. Its dramatic developed writing that deals with well written characters and plots. More and more movie actors are working in premium cable programming because of its quality.

Quality is more than just bloated budgets and excessive cgi and underdeveloped plots which is what a lot of Hollywood films are these days. And a production is not automatically inferior just necause it didnt premiere at a theater. The days of only inferior entertainment being relegated to tv and on-demand are behind us.

Your argument that Carry was wrong for this doesnt hold water. He has more than proved himself as a director.

 

[Octoberist]

TV is not inferior. Not anymore. I work in the entertainment industry (No i'm not 'up there') but people in the biz don't see it that way anymore. Thats' why Netflix and HBO are an actual threat to movies, because they're foxing the old system to change. Period.

To be creatively and pushing boundaries, TV is where it's at, and those who are in charge of the film divisions are realizing that.

 

[The Chris]

Yeah it's definitely not inferior these days. There's too much quality work being done on HBO, Showtime, AMC, FX, Netflix and others, and it's attracting so many talented filmmakers. Heck look what happened with Steven Soderbergh leaving film and doing Behind the candelebra on hbo and the knick on cinemax, Fincher doing House of cards. Neil Marshall directing game of thrones episodes, Rian Johnson knocking out Ozymandias totally out of the park for Breaking Bad. Cary's work on True Detective was one of the best if not the best of them all.

 

[Octoberist]

I read that the budget for the first film was only 30 million and yet, WB/New Line wanted to cut the budget even further? What? 30 million is low enough. Not only that, they got cold feet b/c of Poltergiest not doing well, AND featuring a clown? Really? Are they counting their losses due to some of the box office disappointments the studio has? Is IT New Line to blame, and not WB (I don't know tied in together they are).

 

[Solidus]

Hopefully this does a "Twin Peaks" and the studio changes their minds and he comes back to the project. This really sucks. I was looking forward to this.

 

[Octoberist]

I hope so, but they better do it soon because Cary already has a few projects set up, some with completed scripts!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

WB and New Line are one in the same pretty much.

I'm surprised WB doesn't see potential in the project, I think it could be another The Conjuring type of hit for them if good and classy.

 

[Carnotaur3]

The level of control these studios are pushing is exactly why the state of "film" is in trouble. We have no Visionary Directors, we have Directors For Hire. Studio gives the film up to those who will follow THEIR script on how the film should go, which isn't based in an artistic, creative mindset, but a Blockbuster Bulletpoint because to them "It's all about a formula. It's mathematic."

Except, it isn't. There is no script to a successful movie. William ****ing Friedken, the director of the Exorcist, will tell you that RIGHT HERE

 

[Man in the Suit]

The level of control these studios are pushing is exactly why the state of "film" is in trouble. We have no Visionary Directors, we have Directors For Hire. Studio gives the film up to those who will follow THEIR script on how the film should go, which isn't based in an artistic, creative mindset, but a Blockbuster Bulletpoint because to them "It's all about a formula. It's mathematic."

Except, it isn't. There is no script to a successful movie. William ****ing Friedken, the director of the Exorcist, will tell you that RIGHT HERE

All you need is the director of Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.

 

[Octoberist]

I think that's why we always get 'clone' movies. A bunch of wannabes in the same genres after The Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and Hunger Games.

But people don't realize that, yeah, there's no formula.

Example:

Hunger Games may have worked because of.... Katniss, along with J-Law, not b/c the demographic wants teens in a dystopian future. Look at The Giver and lack of integrity it had (despite being an okay movie.) The visuals were all Hunger Games when it should've been more like Brave New World or 1984: North Korean concrete buildings.

The Matrix worked because it's the Matrix. You can't have 'The One' (Jet Li movie) in the title to win people over. But Hollywood has never learned. Star Wars in the 70's sprung up so many wannabes. I'm looking at you Battle Star Galatica, Ice Pirates, Kull, and Battle Beyond the Stars.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I actually think The Giver is a much better movie than all the HG movies.


But yeah, what a kick in the nuts for this movie.

 

[Octoberist]

I'm taking one for the team: Cary Fukunaga for Star Wars 9!

 

[Octoberist]

If there is any good news, it seems like the project has been indefinitely delayed.

 

[Snow Queen]

I'm taking one for the team: Cary Fukunaga for Star Wars 8!

Do you mean 9 or am I missing the joke?

 

[Octoberist]

Oh shoot. I meant 9. NINE I SAY!

 

[Brother Jack]

The level of control these studios are pushing is exactly why the state of "film" is in trouble. We have no Visionary Directors, we have Directors For Hire. Studio gives the film up to those who will follow THEIR script on how the film should go, which isn't based in an artistic, creative mindset, but a Blockbuster Bulletpoint because to them "It's all about a formula. It's mathematic."

There are some out there but they're few and far between. You basically have to have massive blockbuster success under your belt. So guys like Spielberg, Nolan, James Cameron if he was interested in anything other than Avatar. As good as Fukunaga is he isn't on that tier and that's unfortunately what the studio seems to need to give the director creative freedom in a project of this size.

As much as this sucks Fukunaga will be fine going forward. He's just too talented with too good of a track record, short as it is, to not be successful. Unless they can somehow get a great replacement this movie is kind of doomed. I hate to be pessimistic but the studio's purported actions may have killed it.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Glad I amused you by referencing a ship that is a metaphor for huge, epic, powerful, larger-than-life, etc. I'll rephrase it so you understand:

It's a really big, important piece of work on a cultural level, and happens to be a physically large book.

Or:

BIG BIG BOOK VERY IMPORTANT

But the reason why he left is because New Line wanted a more commercial IT movie. Does that sound good to you? It usually isn't.

How in the hell is the guy who did Annabelle or Mama better? I'd five you Won or Kent having a go, but the rest of your choices are awful.

 

[Octoberist]

Really? The dude who did Annabelle?

 

[Snow Queen]

Wait, so the guy who did True Detective and Jane Eyre (I hear that was good anyway, haven't seen it myself) is unqualified but the director of Annabelle, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation and Butterfly Effect 2 is perfect?

 

[Black Narcissus]

Wait, so the guy who did True Detective and Jane Eyre (I hear that was good anyway, haven't seen it myself) is unqualified but the director of Annabelle, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation and Butterfly Effect 2 is perfect?

Jane Eyre is good. I felt like a lady.

Fukunaga is the only reason I became interested. Eh.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Really? The dude who did Annabelle?

Not a fan of any of the Insidious or Oculus flick but to each their own. The Conjuring was good tho. A commercial vibe to this material just sounds awful to me.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=31460591&postcount=755

 

[Octoberist]

I liked The Babdook, but what he said sealed his fate with the others.