SteveDeKnight

[Scarlet Spider]

And do I even have to point out that General Zod was created for Superman the Movie? This pivotal character didn't even exist in the mythology before that.

Actually, General Zod wasn't created specifically for STM. Zod existed in the comics long before STM/SII were written and his first appearance actually dates back to the early sixties.


One thing I've been curious about as far as SV's Zod is, did the show always intend Zod to appear only in spirit form in Lex's body right from when they started setting up the storyline at the end of the fourth season, or was it a change that was made later on. I remember reading about major last minute script changes for "Vessel" and I always wondered if those changes had to do with Zod?

It's a shame too. They really could have done something great with Zod if they just had him appear in physical form and cast a strong actor to play him like they did with James Marsters for Milton Fine. I loved what they did with Brainiac and what Marsters brought to the role. I was hoping for something similair with Zod. I don't know... it just felt like the buildup for Zod was far more interesting than the payoff.

 

[BaK]

One thing I've been curious about as far as SV's Zod is, did the show always intend Zod to appear only in spirit form in Lex's body right from when they started setting up the storyline at the end of the fourth season, or was it a change that was made later on. I remember reading about major last minute script changes for "Vessel" and I always wondered if those changes had to do with Zod?

if there were a title change for "vessel", then yes, it's very possible..

i like the idea of lex "hosting" it better though..

 

[avidreader]

From DeKnight's Blog.

Just finishing up with ep. 6, then I'll be writing and directing episode 11. Can't tell you anything about it, except it's shaping up to be an awesome story. Not an exploding baby in sight!

Sounds like it might be a mythology episode. Maybe some follow up from Zod.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Someone needs to give the man a raise for his comment about the exploding baby.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Only when he gives Lana better storylines....

 

[COMPO]

From DeKnight's Blog.



Sounds like it might be a mythology episode. Maybe some follow up from Zod.

It might even tell us what happened on Krypton.

 

[Brainiac 8]

In an interview, they said that would be explained this season...and I think that's groovy.

 

[COMPO]

I think if they do this they should bring Lara in to tell Clark this because she was a historian on Krypton. They could do it like they did in Rosetta and relic he get shot by a beam in the fortress of solitude and is downloaded with all the history of Krypton. Al Gough said it was more a political thing taht killed Krypton. What do you think happened?

 

[COMPO]

I dont know if I've got the energy to go through this again, but NHawk your basically saying alot of the things that Kal said, so you can check back on my answers to those.

As to the overall theme of what you're saying, I answer this Clark does do all those things, of course on a much smaller scale, however he hasnt quite come to grips with the fact yet that:

ONE PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE​

Will he realise that after his time in the Phantom Zone, maybe, possibly, hopefully? We shall wait and see.


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I think taht after he sees the criminals that his father imprisoned he'll start to see tghat they aren't so different and start building some bridges between them.

As for him discovering his destiny & accepting it. i think if they brought in Lara. She might explain it better.

 

[avidreader]

I posted this on DeKnight's blog

What I see being so good about watching the Lexana relationship is to see how drastically the relationship fails and why neither of them are any good for each other. That in itself will make great dramatic television.
I know Lex has gone on about how much he loves Lana, however I think his feelings stem from a deep envy that he holds for Clark. If Clark didnt love Lana the way he does or did, then Lex more than likely wouldnt have even looked twice at her.

and this is the answer he gave me.

Your take on the relationship -- especially from Lex's side -- is verrrrrrry interesting...

Can we read between the lines?

 

[Whiteflag]

Can we read between the lines?

Does that mean that Lana will be the excuse for the rift, after all?

 

[COMPO]

maybe. Maybe not. That my friend is the big question.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Does that mean that Lana will be the excuse for the rift, after all?

No problem there, just make her a stronger character in the process...

 

[avidreader]

Does that mean that Lana will be the excuse for the rift, after all?

Hmmmm.... that's not what I got out of it. I thought he was implying that Lex is overly envious of Clark and that is basically the root of his desire to be in a relationship with Lana.

I'm just not seeing an any "one thing" for Clark and Lex's demise in their friendship. Its a combination of so many things, foremost being their completely different views on the world.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Hmmmm.... that's not what I got out of it. I thought he was implying that Lex is overly envious of Clark and that is basically the root of his desire to be in a relationship with Lana.

I'm just not seeing an any "one thing" for Clark and Lex's demise in their friendship. Its a combination of so many things, foremost being their completely different views on the world.

I think the divide has been there between the two for a while with Lex's obsession about Clark's secret, everything else is background collage

 

[Whiteflag]

I'm just not seeing an any "one thing" for Clark and Lex's demise in their friendship. Its a combination of so many things, foremost being their completely different views on the world.

That's what I think too. But from some of the things that TPTB have said, I'm not too sure that's the message they want to convey on the show.

 

[avidreader]

That's what I think too. But from some of the things that TPTB have said, I'm not too sure that's the message they want to convey on the show.

What makes you think that? The Clexana triangle that they keep raving about. I think that's just their selling point.

 

[triplet]

There's so many things that Lex has done that have made Clark realize that Lex isn't a good person that its hard to even know where to begin.

Maybe Lex hooking up with Lana is the last straw, but there are other reasons for them to become enemies.

 

[The Caped Knight]

There's so many things that Lex has done that have made Clark realize that Lex isn't a good person that its hard to even know where to begin.

Maybe Lex hooking up with Lana is the last straw, but there are other reasons for them to become enemies.

Their Better be . I'd hate them become sworn enemies over a woman . that would be awful, not to mention the biggest cop out hero vs. Villian story.

I mean come on

I'd be pissed-off if BATMAN & The Joker were friends in high school before become sworn eneimes and the main reason for them becoming enemies was because they were both in love with Selina Kyle LAME !!!!

 

[AgentPat]

I posted this on DeKnight's blog

and this is the answer he gave me.

Can we read between the lines?

I've been doing that since Clark saved Lex at the bridge...
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8305118&#post8305118

...as long as they keep Lex "grounded" in his approach, I'm good. I have no desire to see Lex Luthor be a madman, and/or revel in the mass slaughter of "billions of people." *cough* It's formulaic maniacal bad guy nonsense and frankly, quite campy. Lex wants people to adore him as a savior. He wants the power that comes from idolatry, and he'll do what's necessary to achieve that goal, even if he has to be an SOB to get it. But he'll still be a brilliant businessman at the same time.

What I'm really, re-HEEEEEEEELY looking forward to is seeing the sparks of jealousy begin to erupt. It started right after Clark rescued Lex from the Porsche accident, and it's manifested itself in various things Lex has done and said ever since. The comments about Clark's hair for example, while definitely funny on one level, adds to the ever increasing litany of attributes that Lex covets about Clark.

This is why Lex Luthor despises Superman. As with Clark, he covets what Superman receives: love and admiration. This is why Lex wants to destroy Superman, and why I believe SV's version of the mythos will show why it's no "big deal" for Lex to know Clark w/o glasses - he'll already KNOW that Clark is the mysterious "super man" when he first appears. The writing's on the wall folks. This is looking better and better every day!

 

[avidreader]

This is why Lex Luthor despises Superman. As with Clark, he covets what Superman receives: love and admiration. This is why Lex wants to destroy Superman, and why I believe SV's version of the mythos will show why it's no "big deal" for Lex to know Clark w/o glasses - he'll already KNOW that Clark is the mysterious "super man" when he first appears. The writing's on the wall folks. This is looking better and better every day!

Absolutely!

It makes perfect sense. How could "the world's greatest crimminal" not work out that Clark Kent and Superman are NOT the same person?

Its almost an insult to his intelligence, that he wouldnt know.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Their Better be . I'd hate them become sworn enemies over a woman . that would be awful, not to mention the biggest cop out hero vs. Villian story.

I mean come on

I'd be pissed-off if BATMAN & The Joker were friends in high school before become sworn eneimes and the main reason for them becoming enemies was because they were both in love with Selina Kyle LAME !!!!

There's been tension there from the start so it wouldnt be soley because of a Lana. If it was a situation where she was part of it, it still makes sense when you look at the whole show in perspective. And quit your biasness, if it was Lois you would say it was genius a la L&C. Besides Lana-Lex-Clark is a whole different subjective comparison than Batman-Joker-Catwoman. You know nothing about comics to even bring up such a black and white argument to validate your anemic argument.
Try harder...

 

[avidreader]

What I see being so good about watching the Lexana relationship is to see how drastically the relationship fails and why neither of them are any good for each other. That in itself will make great dramatic television.
I know Lex has gone on about how much he loves Lana, however I think his feelings stem from a deep envy that he holds for Clark. If Clark didnt love Lana the way he does or did, then Lex more than likely wouldnt have even looked twice at her.

On rethinking DeKnights comments regarding this post, I'm wondering if he was referring to this aspect of the Lex Lana relationship. We all know that Lex wants what Clark wants but will Lex in due course realise that he has nothing in common with this smalltown girl.

 

[Kaboom]

i think lex will just get bored with her

 

[The Caped Knight]

There's been tension there from the start so it wouldnt be soley because of a Lana. If it was a situation where she was part of it, it still makes sense when you look at the whole show in perspective.

And quit your biasness, if it was Lois you would say it was genius a la L&C. Besides Lana-Lex-Clark is a whole different subjective comparison than Batman-Joker-Catwoman.

You know nothing about comics to even bring up such a black and white argument to validate your anemic argument.
Try harder...

Ok first off

I know that, I wouldn't mind if Lana is a small part of them becoming sworn enemies [Just like with Harry Osborn & Peter Parker fighting over Mary Jane Watson] But to have Lana be the final nail in the coffin . I'd exspect something much more impressive and Bigger for two Legendary fictional comic book characters .


I hated That love triangle in season 1 of Lois & Clark, I'm so happy they ended it at the end of season 1.

Second of all I was using them as an example, following Smallville's format [Since no one knows who was Bruce Wayne's first love pre-BATMAN, I used BATMAN's true love and his future wife to be Selina Kyle/Catwoman as a example]

And last of all, you don't know Jack about me. And I doubt you know as much about The Superman mythology than me. [You like many who watch smallville know the basics of the superman story, but you don't know all the details.]