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No, so thanks for sharing that. That was cool.
I'm not much into a live-action version but I'm still looking forward to this. It'd be cool if the feel was like a more serious version of Kung Fu Hustle, a film I really liked. I really hope this delivers for me.
I'm not much into a live-action version but I'm still looking forward to this. It'd be cool if the feel was like a more serious version of Kung Fu Hustle, a film I really liked. I really hope this delivers for me.
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Well the person that directed the film in the link above is handling the series so you have every right to have hope for this....The guy shows a great attention to detail and focus on Authenticity with Street Fighter.
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I see. That sounds hopeful.
To be honest, I don't really know what I want from a Street Fighter film. I just seem to have such an obsession with the Alpha universe in the video games, so much so that I didn't really enjoy the animated Alpha stuff that much.
So to make things fair, I'll just see what this offers without being too picky - the photos look really good so far. I hope that this is a great film that can stand on its own. Not just a good Street Fighter film, but a great film period.
To be honest, I don't really know what I want from a Street Fighter film. I just seem to have such an obsession with the Alpha universe in the video games, so much so that I didn't really enjoy the animated Alpha stuff that much.
So to make things fair, I'll just see what this offers without being too picky - the photos look really good so far. I hope that this is a great film that can stand on its own. Not just a good Street Fighter film, but a great film period.
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Gouki is 'Akuma' in English, correct?
Also, who's Senzo?
Also, who's Senzo?
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Senzo is filler character that's supposed to be friends with Goutetsu and Gouki is Akuma lol.
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OK so who's Goutetsu? Is he Gouken - Ryu and Ken's master?
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Goutetsu is Gouken and Akuma's master.
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Also guys just so you can get more knowledge on what Joey wants to do with this series, I recommend reading this from a while back: http://www.gamereactor.eu/articles/87514/Street+Fighter:+Assassin's+Fist+Interview/
How many episodes are we talking here? How long is each one and where is this going to air?
I can't unfortunately announce the exact distribution plan yet. It is in place, but there will be an official announcement by our partners in that respect soon enough. But I will say that it is going to be a series format, and it's feature-length. So in total, you're looking at two hours of content. Although it's a series, I always wanted it to work as a movie, so you can think of it as a chapterised movie.
Have you guys got this storyboarded out already, and doing it beat for beat, or is the story evolving as you're filming?
On Legacy we had a hell of a lot of storyboards, because it was a short thing. But on this, no. We're not working from storyboards much at all.
But the script, we've had the benefit, unlike a lot of films, to have been working on this script for about three years solidly. It's been redrafted and refined. So I know it, along with Christian [Howard, co-writer and who plays Ken in the series], like the back of my hand. A lot of films - and being an actor I work on a lot of films - you realise how much of the script is being rewritten as you go along.
Most feature films you see are nowhere near finished script-wise when principal photography starts, but they have a long enough schedule and big enough budget to do reshoots. They often have writers working around the clock rewriting pages and entire sections of the film, as you go. It's an uneconomical way to work.
This is multi-generational story. We know Ken and Ryu after two decades fighting alongside them. But outside combat, how do you get into their headspace?
Where does one begin? ...We wanted to create the definitive backstory. The story in the Street Fighter universe is very fractured. You had Street Fighter and that tournament, Ryu beating Sagat at the end, so you've a bit of narrative there. The anime then retro-fitted in that [Sagat] got the scar from Ryu. Then they retro-fitted that in Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Akuma comes in. And they say "okay, he killed Ryu and Ken's master, and was that master's brother". Then there's a long time before Gouken, Ryu and Ken's master, is given a name. So the story's been retro-fitted as its moved forward.
So we've tried to take what's regarded as canon by Capcom, what appears in the prologues and epilogues of the games. The Capcom-endorsed and sanctioned animes, although they are official Capcom stuff, they're not regarded as canon, all of what's in there.
We found a way unify those narratives into one definitive back story, so hopefully moving on when people watch this, this is the history of Ryu and Ken, and [that story].
Back to your original question; with Ryu, with any character that has conflict in that esoteric, internal, mental way... Ryu as we know has a lack of a real known biological father or mother figure, and was adopted and raised by Gouken. Ryu also in his formative years holds back, you don't know why, but he has some sort of 'ism' about him, that stops him fully unleashing his full potential. A good analogy with Ryu is that he's not actually ever competing with anyone else; he's competing with himself.
Whereas Ken is driven fiercely by competition. A lot of Ken's conflict comes from his relationship with his father. Without giving too much away, we learn in this series how Ken came to be in Japan, in Gouken's dojo. Why was he dropped there? Where are his mother and father, why aren't they raising him? Why has he been dumped with Gouken for ten years?
Are we talking Alpha era? So who's got the red band, and are we going to see the iconic handover of that between fighters?
We're going into slight spoiler territory, but fans can be happy to know they're going to see - you're right in saying this is there Alpha period - characters will look as they should look in the Alpha period. When that period comes to an end they'll look how they should look post that.
So is Christian having to grow his hair or wear a wig?
Trust me, he looks exactly as you'd hope and dream Alpha Ken to look. And um... yea [laughs].
If you're wondering if "they're going to be brave enough to pull it off, and do Ken's hair that long"... yea. We're not shying away from accuracy in any way. It's just a system of making it work.
And the good thing for us was that Legacy was like a dress rehearsal. So things like the eyebrows, maybe we were a bit overboard last time, so let's dial certain things back, how can we improve hair and makeup. The costumes are pretty bang on anyway, but what areas can we improve - the mitts, the gloves - everything. There's been no compromise, at all, in being 100% faithful in how the characters should look. None.
How many episodes are we talking here? How long is each one and where is this going to air?
I can't unfortunately announce the exact distribution plan yet. It is in place, but there will be an official announcement by our partners in that respect soon enough. But I will say that it is going to be a series format, and it's feature-length. So in total, you're looking at two hours of content. Although it's a series, I always wanted it to work as a movie, so you can think of it as a chapterised movie.
Have you guys got this storyboarded out already, and doing it beat for beat, or is the story evolving as you're filming?
On Legacy we had a hell of a lot of storyboards, because it was a short thing. But on this, no. We're not working from storyboards much at all.
But the script, we've had the benefit, unlike a lot of films, to have been working on this script for about three years solidly. It's been redrafted and refined. So I know it, along with Christian [Howard, co-writer and who plays Ken in the series], like the back of my hand. A lot of films - and being an actor I work on a lot of films - you realise how much of the script is being rewritten as you go along.
Most feature films you see are nowhere near finished script-wise when principal photography starts, but they have a long enough schedule and big enough budget to do reshoots. They often have writers working around the clock rewriting pages and entire sections of the film, as you go. It's an uneconomical way to work.
This is multi-generational story. We know Ken and Ryu after two decades fighting alongside them. But outside combat, how do you get into their headspace?
Where does one begin? ...We wanted to create the definitive backstory. The story in the Street Fighter universe is very fractured. You had Street Fighter and that tournament, Ryu beating Sagat at the end, so you've a bit of narrative there. The anime then retro-fitted in that [Sagat] got the scar from Ryu. Then they retro-fitted that in Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Akuma comes in. And they say "okay, he killed Ryu and Ken's master, and was that master's brother". Then there's a long time before Gouken, Ryu and Ken's master, is given a name. So the story's been retro-fitted as its moved forward.
So we've tried to take what's regarded as canon by Capcom, what appears in the prologues and epilogues of the games. The Capcom-endorsed and sanctioned animes, although they are official Capcom stuff, they're not regarded as canon, all of what's in there.
We found a way unify those narratives into one definitive back story, so hopefully moving on when people watch this, this is the history of Ryu and Ken, and [that story].
Back to your original question; with Ryu, with any character that has conflict in that esoteric, internal, mental way... Ryu as we know has a lack of a real known biological father or mother figure, and was adopted and raised by Gouken. Ryu also in his formative years holds back, you don't know why, but he has some sort of 'ism' about him, that stops him fully unleashing his full potential. A good analogy with Ryu is that he's not actually ever competing with anyone else; he's competing with himself.
Whereas Ken is driven fiercely by competition. A lot of Ken's conflict comes from his relationship with his father. Without giving too much away, we learn in this series how Ken came to be in Japan, in Gouken's dojo. Why was he dropped there? Where are his mother and father, why aren't they raising him? Why has he been dumped with Gouken for ten years?
Are we talking Alpha era? So who's got the red band, and are we going to see the iconic handover of that between fighters?
We're going into slight spoiler territory, but fans can be happy to know they're going to see - you're right in saying this is there Alpha period - characters will look as they should look in the Alpha period. When that period comes to an end they'll look how they should look post that.
So is Christian having to grow his hair or wear a wig?
Trust me, he looks exactly as you'd hope and dream Alpha Ken to look. And um... yea [laughs].
If you're wondering if "they're going to be brave enough to pull it off, and do Ken's hair that long"... yea. We're not shying away from accuracy in any way. It's just a system of making it work.
And the good thing for us was that Legacy was like a dress rehearsal. So things like the eyebrows, maybe we were a bit overboard last time, so let's dial certain things back, how can we improve hair and makeup. The costumes are pretty bang on anyway, but what areas can we improve - the mitts, the gloves - everything. There's been no compromise, at all, in being 100% faithful in how the characters should look. None.
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And here are two interviews from way back just so you guys can get more of a grasp of what he's all about when it comes to adapting Street Fighter:
http://www.streetfighterdevotion.com/exclusives_sfaa.php
http://www.hadoken.net/?p=5257
As I've said in the past, it's hard to not admire his passion as a fan. Personally, his approach reminds me of alot of myself when it comes to the mentality of adapting source materal but I'm sure a lot of fans would feel the same as well.
http://www.streetfighterdevotion.com/exclusives_sfaa.php
http://www.hadoken.net/?p=5257
As I've said in the past, it's hard to not admire his passion as a fan. Personally, his approach reminds me of alot of myself when it comes to the mentality of adapting source materal but I'm sure a lot of fans would feel the same as well.
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Wow, it goes that far back? Nice. Goutetsu was the one who invented that murderous fighting style, correct? And Gouken made it less murderous or something?
Thanks for sharing these interviews. I feel a bit hyped. This guy seems like he will really deliver the goods.
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Yep Gouken embraced the more "spiritual" aspects of it and reshaped it before passing it down to Ken and Ryu so they wouldn't get the curses of the Dark Hadou.
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OK, that's perfect. And when Ryu desperately tries to win against Sagat in the first tournament, he unleashes that forbidden power again or something with that Shoryuken?
I love all these storylines.
I love all these storylines.
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Yeah, he ends up relying on the Dark Hadou to do the Metsu Shoryuken which ends up leaving that giant scar on Sagat's chest.
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Perfect. Love the story stuff so much, especially in the early games.
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Visually looks so good.
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Most likely. Joey Ansah has actually humored the idea of Scott Adkins as Guile for either a second season or future movie.
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Seems like they are trying to repeat the success of the Mortal Kombat web show.
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