Strongest human MCU character?

[ernesth100]

Agreed, this is a thread about strength not skill.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

No Ward?

if we're counting, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, characters my vote might have to go to Mack

 

[Mightmitenot]

Timely Comics character: The Patriot. No super powers but he was also the third Captain America.

I chose him over the second Cap, William (Spirit of '76) Nashland because Mace was a genuine Golden Age costumed hero and Nashland was a Roy Thomas counterfeit character loosely based on the Quality/DC character Uncle Sam.

 

[Flint Marko]

Matt Murdock has powers. They don't augment his physical strength, but it's still a power.

 

[The_Manhunter]

Quill, he could hold an Infinity Stone and not die immediately. I know he's technically "half-human" but he didn't exhibit any non-human abilities in GOTG (besides being able to hold the Stone).

 

[Steamteck]

Kingpin is obviously the physically strongest in the group but I'd go with Widow winning a fight most of the time but Matt would give her a run for her money.

 

[ernesth100]

That would be a very interesting fight. Widow vs Daredevil.

 

[kedrell]

Kingpin is obviously the physically strongest in the group but I'd go with Widow winning i a fight most of the time but Matt would give her a run for her money.

This is my thinking as well. In a flat out hand to hand fight I'd put my money on BW against any non-powered opponent we've seen yet. However, it's pobbile that like in the comics, she's not entirely unpowered herself. We know she's had things done to her by the KGB to make her a better agent for them. We might find out new things in the future that we are just unaware of right now. Isn't BW in the comics able to bench press like 500 lbs. or so. I know that's not technically a superhuman feat but it would count as enhanced for a woman of her size and build to be able to do that. That's probably mean she's 2-3 times stronger than she looks.

 

[kedrell]

That would be a very interesting fight. Widow vs Daredevil.

It would indeed. But I'd give the win to her more than half of the time they would fight. Say 6 out of 10 times she'd win. She has already killed on countless occasions and that's an asset that DD doesn't have.

 

[babykhris]

What about Jessica Jones????

 

[Mike5575]

if we're counting, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, characters my vote might have to go to Mack

Yeah, especially that time when he was possessed by those Kree Zombie powers. Even without them, Mac easily chokes people out.

Anyways, I was going to vote for Sharon Carter, but then I saw Phil Coulson. Seriously, some of these choices shouldn't even be on the list.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

What about Jessica Jones????

She has super strength that's pretty much on par with that of Cap, and she's also more durable, and can fly/superjump. Plus she's not appeared yet. So there's plenty of reasons she wouldn't count.

 

[3dman27]

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Agreed, this is a thread about strength not skill.

I don't know about that my money's on Tasha

 

[Mike5575]

She has super strength that's pretty much on par with that of Cap, and she's also more durable, and can fly/superjump. Plus she's not appeared yet. So there's plenty of reasons she wouldn't count.

She's actually much stronger than She can lft cars, no problem.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

C'mon with this Bullcrap
Natashia is the toughest she is a Female and can go Toe to Toe with anyone of those guys..."AND CAN WHIP HALF OF EM"!... and Peggy Carter has never endured what Natasha went through to be the agent she is and I can never see Peggy going Toe to Toe with the Guys on the list either.

definitely not.

The same reason Cap doesn't count. He has superpowers. Sure, they're not as big of a deal, but being able to hear when your opponent is ready to strike by listening to their heartbeat is still an unfair advantage.

Although... that's really the question of who do we think would win in a fight. I think that's what the OP intended to ask, but if you want to take the question absolutely literally, who is the toughest - ie who can take the most punishment and still keep fighting - then I would say Matt is a strong contender. I'm not sure anyone else in the MCU has had as many horrible beatings as he had and still kept fighting (without intervening medical attention), even among the superpowered characters. His powers wouldn't be relevant, since while they can make him a better fighter, they don't allow him to absorb any extra damage.

But, then again, Rumlow got hit by a falling Helicarrier and survived. That's pretty damn tough, too.

but that doesn't include superhuman strength.

Matt Murdock has powers. They don't augment his physical strength, but it's still a power.

this thread is asking who is the strongest, as in, who has the most brute strength - it isn't about who has the most skill or even who'd win in a fight

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Fisk

 

[Doctor Octopus]

The Kingpin. He should be able to fight Spider-Man on his own like in comics.

 

[Bayne]

definitely not.

but that doesn't include superhuman strength.

this thread is asking who is the strongest, as in, who has the most brute strength - it isn't about who has the most skill or even who'd win in a fight

This thread is entirely unclear on what it's asking. The title says 'strongest'. The original post, on the other hand, says 'toughest and would beat out all the others'.

Based on that last sentence, it's my interpretation that the thread was intended to ask about who would win in a fight, not who is the physically strongest. Ergo, Daredevil's superpowers are still unfair.

Also, the one thing the original post was pretty clear on was the intended definition of 'Human' characters: 'basic human with absolutely no powers or augmentations'. Based on that criteria Daredevil is obviously disqualified.

However, as I've already said, IF the intention is to ask which character is physically the strongest, then Kingpin is almost certainly the winner (even above DD) and IF the intention is to ask which character is the toughest, then Daredevil could be the winner. Assuming you change the original criteria of 'having no powers or augmentations' to 'having no powers or augmentations which are relevant to toughness', because otherwise he should technically still be disqualified.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

This thread is entirely unclear on what it's asking. The title says 'strongest'. The original post, on the other hand, says 'toughest and would beat out all the others'.

Based on that last sentence, it's my interpretation that the thread was intended to ask about who would win in a fight, not who is the physically strongest. Ergo, Daredevil's superpowers are still unfair.

Also, the one thing the original post was pretty clear on was the intended definition of 'Human' characters: 'basic human with absolutely no powers or augmentations'. Based on that criteria Daredevil is obviously disqualified.

However, as I've already said, IF the intention is to ask which character is physically the strongest, then Kingpin is almost certainly the winner (even above DD) and IF the intention is to ask which character is the toughest, then Daredevil could be the winner. Assuming you change the original criteria of 'having no powers or augmentations' to 'having no powers or augmentations which are relevant to toughness', because otherwise he should technically still be disqualified.

i'm going off of the poll question.

 

[T"Challa]

Are we talking who would win a bench pressing contest? If so Kingpin or Mack takes this.

Who wins a hand to hand combat melee? I go with Daredevil

 

[Lilbaz]

Impossible to compare bw and dd. Dd is meant to be "realistic" and gritty. BW is set in a more fantastical part of the universe where the film budget can afford her to do impressive feats. If they were to face off in a nuetral setting they would be on a par. Although a peak human male with extensive knowledge in martial arts in the real world would 90% of the time beat a woman with the same.

If it is about strength kingpin. Mac wouldn't be far off though.

 

[Lantern Venom]

definitely not.

but that doesn't include superhuman strength.

According to Cap's AoU Marvel Legends figure, he *does* have superhuman strength.

The Kingpin. He should be able to fight Spider-Man on his own like in comics.

It's safe to say that Fisk is somewhere along the outer edges of the human capacity for strength. We're not just talking about a really strong man, but a Brian Shaw level of power. Red Skull was unable to even budge Kingpin in the comics, and Fisk's first fight with Daredevil on the Netflix show reminded me a lot of that.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

According to Cap's AoU Marvel Legends figure, he *does* have superhuman strength.

is it possible you could find a source for this? if that's true then it's good that he's not on the list.

 

[Flint Marko]

Yeah I was always under the impression that MCU Cap is more akin to Ultimate Cap, where he has super strength and durability.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

is it possible you could find a source for this? if that's true then it's good that he's not on the list.

I don't think even a peak human could do this:

He has also thrown men over a tank. And he can kick them to send them flying through the air (also including Chitauri). Especially him kicking that guy off the Lemurian Star shows this

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He beat Bucky, who we know has enhanced strength.
He defeated many Chitauri and Ultron drones.
Although he didn't win, he held his own against both Loki and Ultron Prime (who he tossed through a concrete pillar) in combat.
I believe that had part of it not broken, he would've been able to support that car with people in it and maybe even pull it back up the bridge in Sokovia.

He "ran like 13 miles in 30 minutes" (which means that he ran on average at Usain Bolt's top speed for 30 minutes, while Bolt only manages it for about 10 seconds), and has been shown to run well over 30 mph/50 kmh on short distances.
His metabolism is so efficient he can't get drunk
He survived being frozen for all those decades.

He's superhuman without a doubt