Suicide Squad SPOILER Discussion (BEWARE)

[The Shape]

Haha batman is so dumb in the dceu.

"I dont wanna do this in front of your daughter"
*Proceeds to do it in front of his daughter*

He didn't want to be forced to beat the **** out of Deadshot in front of his daughter of Deadshot had resisted or fought back...and he didn't.

 

[Rowsdower!]

You don't? Apocalypse was a bomb because it was a generic end of the world disaster movie and Civil War specifically address the destruction porn/collateral damage thing. Even Ant Man subverted the trope by having the destruction of a miniature model city.

Everyone is aware of the whole city destruction thing becoming tiring. Except DC, apparently.

What's amazing is that Enchantress' light portal/garbage cloud/whatever the hell it was looked almost EXACTLY like Zod's terraforming destruction in Man of Steel. And look, I like Man of Steel. It's a flawed movie but I still found a lot to like in it. But that movie took quite a beating from both critics and fans for the excess destruction at the end and the way it was more or less glossed over. You'd think they'd have the good sense to do something that didn't immediately remind the audience of a controversial scene. Or, controversy aside, at the very least, do something DIFFERENT visually. It looked like they were ripping off their own movie.

 

[Cats]

Haha batman is so dumb in the dceu.

"I dont wanna do this in front of your daughter"
*Proceeds to do it in front of his daughter*

Kinda hard not to react when you've got a mass murderer trying to aim a gun at your face. At least he tried to dissuade him.

 

[Flint Marko]

Haha batman is so dumb in the dceu.

"I dont wanna do this in front of your daughter"
*Proceeds to do it in front of his daughter*

I thought the exact same thing
Still not as dumb as trying to kill someone who saved the planet, but dumb all the same.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Bats didnt want to forcefully take down Deadshot in front of his daughter. Deadshot went peacefully. Though I dont know why Bats wouldn't have waited until he was alone. And I feel like Bruce would've kept an eye on the daughter, making sure she was properly taken care of.

 

[Flint Marko]

Though I dont know why Bats wouldn't have waited until he was alone.

Exactly.
I should stress that this isn't a big deal at all or something I couldn't excuse if the movie was, you know, good. I just thought it was funny as I had the exact same word-for-word thought as NotsoLong when I was watching the film.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

That whole scene is just executed really weirdly

 

[Greens]

That whole scene is just executed really weirdly

You think so? I thought it was great.

 

[kguillou]

That bar scene with the Squad was SO good. We needed 2 or 3 more intimate scenes like that where we just get good dialogue and bonding between the team members.

 

[Loki882]

Yeah if you don't want to take the guy down in front of his daughter, then don't do it. You obviously know how to find him/track him down, so wait until he's alone. Really simple stuff there.

But then again both Batman and Superman seem to be unusually stupid and clueless in the DCEU, so maybe it's not surprising.

 

[tanita_mors]

well, if he goes after him with his daughter there he could avoid collateral damage because you know that if she wasn't there deadshot couldn't have been reasoned with.

 

[Primal Slayer]

The henchmen for Enchantress seemed like it was pulled from Power Rangers.

And they were defeated so easily, it was like this was their way of passing over that R rating.

 

[Guts]

In the bar scene Boomerang tells Harley that she is ugly on the inside, there were scenes cut from the movie that showed Boomerang being racist and sexist. Boomerang telling someone about how ugly they are on the inside was meant to be ironic because he was supposed to be the most ugly on the inside.

 

[samsnee]

Um, the Avengers finale is as generic as they get. In addition to the destruction CG porn(which as stated is to be expected from this type of movie) there were zero stakes. at least DD kills Superman and the entire finale is shot in a far more epic manor. l would have liked more interaction with the Trinity during the battle,but those big CG monsters are whats needed in Superhero movies. Or else you get something like Superman Returns. SS finale would have been a lot better if it wasn't so over the top and felt like there were greater stakes. Something I attribute to the poor editing/lack of build up.

So writers should be lazy and just throw in big CG monsters because that's what's expected.

 

[Longshot777]

So I guess the words Superheroes and supervillains are too childish.

And the term metahumans is now the replacement

Even the Avengers films are using the term "Enhanced"

It all started with Xmen using the term mutants and then The Incredibles using "supers"

Heroes Reborn tv show also uses "evos" , Alphas tv show using "alphas" and Ultraforce comics uses "ultras"

The term superheroes are passé in this millennium.

Anyways,

I guess Harley's bath on that toxic liquid made her a metahuman which makes her part of the team in the first place.

 

[Sterling Archer]

So I guess the words Superheroes and supervillains are too childish.

And the term metahumans is now the replacement

Even the Avengers films are using the term "Enhanced"

It all started with Xmen using the term mutants and then The Incredibles using "supers"

Heroes Reborn tv show also uses "evos" , Alphas tv show using "alphas" and Ultraforce comics uses "ultras"

The term superheroes are passé in this millennium.

Anyways,

I guess Harley's bath on that toxic liquid made her a metahuman which makes her part of the team in the first place.

Metahumans as a term has existed in comics for a long time. When Cap refers to Quicksilver as enhanced, he is neither a superhero nor a supervillain at that point, and enhanced rolls off the tongue a lot better than "person with superpowers".

 

[Guts]

So I guess the words Superheroes and supervillains are too childish.

And the term metahumans is now the replacement

Even the Avengers films are using the term "Enhanced"

It all started with Xmen using the term mutants and then The Incredibles using "supers"

Heroes Reborn tv show also uses "evos" , Alphas tv show using "alphas" and Ultraforce comics uses "ultras"

The term superheroes are passé in this millennium.

Anyways,

I guess Harley's bath on that toxic liquid made her a metahuman which makes her part of the team in the first place.

Metahumans as a term has existed in comics for a long time. When Cap refers to Quicksilver as enhanced, he is neither a superhero nor a supervillain at that point, and enhanced rolls off the tongue a lot better than "person with superpowers".

I don't know if metahumans were used in Marvel a lot, but the term was also used in Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
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[BatsDC]

I think Marvel generally avoid the term as it's more often used by DC, so avoids confusion

 

[WitchTrialz]

Yeah if you don't want to take the guy down in front of his daughter, then don't do it. You obviously know how to find him/track him down, so wait until he's alone. Really simple stuff there.

But then again both Batman and Superman seem to be unusually stupid and clueless in the DCEU, so maybe it's not surprising.

I don't see the point in trying to reach for logic here. It was a very well put together scene. He probably JUST committed a major crime that day and had his daughter all night. That opportunity was probably the time he had to nab hom before he disappeared.
I don't see why it matters

 

[Knight-Tale]

I actually like this deadshot more than comic book deadshot. I'm not saying DC should make him will smith or anything but yeah he was pretty damn charming and funny for a hitman.
Will Smith really helped this movie out

 

[Serpico Jones]

Yeah I thought Will Smith was great in this movie.

 

[Longshot777]

Metahumans as a term has existed in comics for a long time. When Cap refers to Quicksilver as enhanced, he is neither a superhero nor a supervillain at that point, and enhanced rolls off the tongue a lot better than "person with superpowers".

Yes I know,

They just seem to really be banking on metahumans the way Xmen has mutants.

And as for Avengers, they are banking on enhanced too. In Civil War, Gen. Ross says a team of Enhanced individuals. He didn't even call them a team of superheroes lol. Captain America, Gen. Ross, Luthor, and Waller could have easily said these superhumans. But they emphasized metahumans and enhanced.

Both JL and Avengers wants thier own "catchphrase" beings like Mutants for The Xmen.

And I like it.

 

[Primal Slayer]

One aspect they should've gotten rid of (imo) was the whole Rick Flagg/June Moon romance subplot. I didn't know these characters at all and thus could care less about their relationship. I know they used it to give Flagg motivation and Waller to kind of control him but they could've easily just made Flagg into Amandas right hand man.

 

[Wolf Boy]

One aspect they should've gotten rid of (imo) was the whole Rick Flagg/June Moon romance subplot.

It felt very pointless, but i'm guessing it was there to give both characters some sort of purpose since neither of them had anything else to do other than be 2 dimensional cliches.

 

[Cats]

Metahumans and superheroes aren't necessarily the same thing. Metas are simply enhanced humans and that can happen on either camp. Superheroes are heroes that undertake more than the average hero (policemen, firemen etc)