Sequels Superman 2-who do you want to direct?

My belief is that if Returns is anywhere near succesfull Singer will give it a shot at a sequel, if not finally see through the trilogy that he didn't with X-Men.

That being said I think Peter Jackson or Steven Spielberg are best suited for the job, and I would love to see it. However, my sleeper would be M. Night for a variety of reasons:

1) He was offered the job previously and would have excepted if they let him
write his own script.
2) He loves the character of Superman and has since a child.
3) I love his take on the superhero genre with his work on Unbreakable.
 
The only thing that scares me about Peter Jackson is that the guy can't seem to make a movie under 3 hours.
 
Shyamalan is a good pick. I completely forgot Warners talked to him about it. He DOES have good storytelling sensibilities, and his respect for comics and their conventions is VERY obvious in "unbreakable."

Obi-Wan: Jackson's Heavenly Creatures is well under three hours, as is The Frighteners. And Heavenly Creatures is a POWERFUL piece of filmmaking. LOTR's length can be explained by the source material, and King Kong's length was his geek jones completely taking over. I don't think the same thing would extend to Superman. That said--I'm not sure I'd like the idea of Jackson directing Superman.
 
Fatboy Roberts said:
Shyamalan is a good pick. I completely forgot Warners talked to him about it. He DOES have good storytelling sensibilities, and his respect for comics and their conventions is VERY obvious in "unbreakable."

Obi-Wan: Jackson's Heavenly Creatures is well under three hours, as is The Frighteners. And Heavenly Creatures is a POWERFUL piece of filmmaking. LOTR's length can be explained by the source material, and King Kong's length was his geek jones completely taking over. I don't think the same thing would extend to Superman. That said--I'm not sure I'd like the idea of Jackson directing Superman.

I agree with you in regards to Heavenly Creatures, great flick. Frighteners, although it was under three hours, wasn't what I hoped.

I would me more interested in seeing M. Night get a shot. I think he would have been great to re-start the franchise, whether an origin or a semi-sequel as Singer is giving us.
 
Matt said:
See, your post was good until right there. Suddenly everything you said is worthless, because lets face it...Jurrassic Park 3 sucked ass.

But he did "The Rocketeer", which was consider a great comic book movie. Sure he did JP3 which suck, but I wouldn't blame it entirely on him. I mean he didn't wrote that movie, did he? But if he did, well maybe it didn't suit him. Doesn't mean he would suck with Superman. It would be interesting if he were to do Superman. He could bring what he did to the Rocketeer for Superman. :)
 
The Rocketeer. Talk about a severly underrated film. Too bad there wasn't sequels. There isn't even a good DVD, right Fatboy?:)
 
Okay...here would be my dream crew:

Director: Steven Spielberg
Writers: Paul Dini with a rewrite by Frank Darabont
Animatics/Pre-Vis/Storyboard Supervisor: Kerry Conran and Brad Bird
Cinematographer: Janusz Kaminski (he'd have to stay away from his overuse of bleach bypass lately, however)
Editor: Michael Kahn
Composer: John Williams
Visual Effects: Weta Digital or ILM
 
skruloos said:
Composer: John Williams

Haven't much thought about your other ideas, but this one I automatically agree with. Williams is one of the finest composers ever, classical or film-wise. :up:
 
There isn't even a good DVD, right Fatboy?

Nope, and that's a DAMNED shame. I remember there was talk of maybe re-releasing it this year, but Disney I don't think really knows what to do with it. Best bet is that it either hits on Blu-Ray or Joe Johnston does something REALLY BIG in the next year or so, making it easy for Disney to say "Oh, from the maker of "blah blahblah blah"

I forgot Johnston did Jumanji, too.

Williams on Superman is a no-brainer. Ottman, I've got faith in him, his "Usual Suspects" score is CLASSIC as far as I'm concerned, and his work on X2 was pretty decent, but man...Don Davis did a decent job re-working Williams' themes in JP3, but the score didn't REALLY stand out. I'm hoping that's not the case with Ottman.

Skru: I think, if we're going dream cinematographers--I'd go with Roger Deakins over Janusz Kaminski--largely for the reason you cited: Kaminski is too addicted to those filters now. Deakins, however--beautiful Cinematography every time. EVERY time. Breathtaking images. Now, if Conrad Hall or John Alonzo were still with us, it'd be one of those too. But as of now, I'm taking Deakins. Or hell, Lesnie, for that matter.

And since Spielberg is so huge on "father/child" relationship themes in ALL of his works--I'd want them to straight up adapt "Secret Identity" by Busiek and Immonen. Can you imagine Spielberg bringing THAT to the screen?

It'd win Oscars. I'm tellin you. It would transcend the genre. That book is right up classic Spielberg's alley.
 
Fatboy Roberts said:
Skru: I think, if we're going dream cinematographers--I'd go with Roger Deakins over Janusz Kaminski--largely for the reason you cited: Kaminski is too addicted to those filters now. Deakins, however--beautiful Cinematography every time. EVERY time. Breathtaking images. Now, if Conrad Hall or John Alonzo were still with us, it'd be one of those too. But as of now, I'm taking Deakins. Or hell, Lesnie, for that matter.
It's funny that you mention Deakins as he would be one of my other choices. The reason I went with Kaminski was because of his relationship with Spielberg. I find it hard to break the relationship between director and cinematographer. Also on my list would be Michael Ballhaus, Dante Spinotti or even John Schwartzman (but only because I think he films great iconic shots even if he DOES work with Michael Bay). Top of my alternate list would be Christopher Doyle though.

Fatboy Roberts said:
And since Spielberg is so huge on "father/child" relationship themes in ALL of his works--I'd want them to straight up adapt "Secret Identity" by Busiek and Immonen. Can you imagine Spielberg bringing THAT to the screen?

It'd win Oscars. I'm tellin you. It would transcend the genre. That book is right up classic Spielberg's alley.
Haven't read "Secret Identity" yet but I have heard others bring it up many a time. I must put it on my "to read" list.
 
Octoberist said:
Nope. Peter Jackson co-owns WETA, my explodsive friend. So WETA did Lord of the Rings.

With I, Robot and Lion,Witch...it's a mixture of different CGI companies. I think Rhythm and Hues did the MAJORITY of the CGI in 'Lion' while WETA Workshop did the make up/costumes and WETA DIGITAL did the extra CGI.

Don't know who did the majority of I, Robot though..
Digital Domain did most of the work on I Robot, and Weta Digital did the underground freeway sequence where all the robots attacked Will Smith's car!

BTW the only reason Weta Digital is of a higher standard globally is due to New Zealands lack of Labor Laws so they can work people like work horses around the clock until production is finished, and it's 3 times cheaper in New Zealand. Disneytoon studios in Australia is a fine example of quality where people are treated like cattle, they make those strait to video Disney sequels like Mulan 2 Jungle Book 2. Disneytoon Studios employees have been given a year to find other jobs because they are going to be shutting down and moving everything to India. Harry Osbourne the Producer of Lord of the Rings is opening a visual effects studio in India too, his reasons are that visual effects are to expensive, and with expense it effects quality, so better effects through cheaper labor. Hanna Barbera started all of this by outsourcing all of their animation to Korea, I should know my grandfather was asked by Joe Barbera to teach Korean's how to animate, but he refused, he thought American animators/artists should keep their jobs!

OK back on topic! :D
 
King Krypton said:
A Krypton that doesn't explode.

Gay Jimmy Olsen.

Lex Luthor, Kryptonian double agent.

Suit in a can.

Hara-kiri Jor-El.

Super wire-fu.

Sorry, but Abrams had his shot, and he blew it. He has no right whatsoever to be anywhere near a Superman movie, let alone direct it.



Ratner was one of the Abrams' script's biggest champions! Why in God's name would anyone want to go back to that mess?

And why are the "fans" rallying behind the people who were going to knife them in the back in the first place as replacements for Singer? Do you people really want a horrible Superman movie that much?!
I hope you understand the difference here. You see, J.J Abrams and Ratner agreed on these changes for their own original Superman movie. They wouldn't be able to make such huge changes directing a sequel, will they?
 
King Krypton said:
A Krypton that doesn't explode.

Gay Jimmy Olsen.

Lex Luthor, Kryptonian double agent.

Suit in a can.

Hara-kiri Jor-El.

Super wire-fu.

Sorry, but Abrams had his shot, and he blew it. He has no right whatsoever to be anywhere near a Superman movie, let alone direct it.



Ratner was one of the Abrams' script's biggest champions! Why in God's name would anyone want to go back to that mess?

And why are the "fans" rallying behind the people who were going to knife them in the back in the first place as replacements for Singer? Do you people really want a horrible Superman movie that much?!

It were Ratner's ideas.

And Abrams is damn good director.
 
Nightwing1977 said:
I know. I'm just annoyed when some say something like this with SR that I do the same for X3, even thought I'm a big X-fan. Gotten a little carried away here. But it just Ratner is never consider a good story telling like Singer with doing too much bad movies with too much action like Rush Hour 1 & 2. Even if he did some work on the scripts, I still don't think he was right for X3. But I hope he will prove me wrong.

I think X-men time will be soon over.

And third movie will suck, I think so.

Script was bad and Ratner can't do anything good for superheroes.
 
Matt said:
That's because WETA's effects are better than Sony's.

And ILM's effects are better than WETA.

And Sony made Spidey 2, so they also have OSCAR AWARD.
 
TheBat812 said:
no, all three LOTRs, "I, Robot", "King Kong", "Chronicles of Narnia", etc. All incredible visual effects, regardless of the quality of the actual movies.

But ILM also made effects for Narnia.
 
Goes into Old School Will Ferrel mode

in real deep voice


"I like you man... I like you but your crazy.."

Smacks some kids around and falls in the pool
 
Showtime029 said:
My belief is that if Returns is anywhere near succesfull Singer will give it a shot at a sequel, if not finally see through the trilogy that he didn't with X-Men.

That being said I think Peter Jackson or Steven Spielberg are best suited for the job, and I would love to see it. However, my sleeper would be M. Night for a variety of reasons:

1) He was offered the job previously and would have excepted if they let him
write his own script.
2) He loves the character of Superman and has since a child.
3) I love his take on the superhero genre with his work on Unbreakable.
It would have been really interesting to see one of my favorite directors take on the "Man of Steel" and it would have been really interesting to see him finally do an action film.
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
It would have been really interesting to see one of my favorite directors take on the "Man of Steel" and it would have been really interesting to see him finally do an action film.

One of my favorites, if not my favorite as well. I would love to see it, you never know.
 
If Singer doesn't come back, I think we will have a new director. But who?
In real, I think WB will find a normal director, who made good movies.
But I also hope we will have J. J. Abrams. or M. Night Shyamalan as a director.
 
Showtime029 said:
One of my favorites, if not my favorite as well. I would love to see it, you never know.
Yeah, I think that Unbreakable has to be the best superhero movie ever and it put the suppose realism of the X-Men movies and Batman Begins to shame.
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
Yeah, I think that Unbreakable has to be the best superhero movie ever and it put the suppose realism of the X-Men movies and Batman Begins to shame.

Unbreakable was really great movie based on superhero :up:
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
Yeah, I think that Unbreakable has to be the best superhero movie ever and it put the suppose realism of the X-Men movies and Batman Begins to shame.

I agree, it was very realistic and should be looked at when creating a superhero movie.
 

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