Kid_Kaos said:"Spider-Man" 1+2 and "Batman Begins" didn't get "Best Picture" nominations, neither did they win anything other than for effects or so. Small awards so to speak. And those were liked by both the majority of fans, the critics and the general public. Spidey even made tons of money.
I don't see this movie winning for anything when Pirates 2 is competing in the same categories (effects, costumes).
Retroman said:Saw this over at the supermanhomepage.Warner Bros Oscar ads that appeared in the trades, pretty cool.
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Source: http://www.oscarwatch.com/FYC/gallery/2006-07/film.php?key=Superman Returns
SIDE NOTE: Parker Posey is starring in a upcoming movie called FOR YOU CONSIDERATION about this very subject.t:
Dan33977 said:Wow!
It's discouraging to me that most of you (this includes people who like and people who hated SUPERMAN RETURNS) have no idea what you're even talking about!
First, to all those who liked RETURNS: it's standard practice for each studio to put all of their films that have the potential to win even just one Academy Award up for consideration for every Academy Award; even FANTASTIC FOUR had posters like these last year! My best friend and I (who follow the Oscar season religiously every year) collect most of these posters every year (they're advertised in Variety, Hollywood's official newspaper, which we actually subscribe to).
Second, to all those who hated RETURNS and senselessly criticize whenever you get the chance to do so: before you make yourselves look like idiots (too late!) and aimlessly scoff at the idea of RETURNS winning an Academy Award, I'll educate you in this area of expertise. In actuality, RETURNS has a great chance of winning one Academy Award this year, and it is, you guessed it, Best Visual Effects. Now, I'll have you know (by the way, since you didn't like RETURNS, you're not going to like this, but the truth hurts) that it's no longer a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact, that RETURNS has groundbreaking visual effects because the Visual Effects Guild (which consists of people, professionals, experts who create visual effects for a living) has officially nominated the Bullet-In-The-Eye sequence for Best Visual Effect shot of the year!
There you have it: all the blind fanatics may stop ejaculating over the idea of RETURNS winning Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Score, and Best Art Direction, and all the blind morons who *********e to John Byrne's Superman may stop idiotically criticizing RETURNS because it actually has a chance of being nominated for Best Visual Effects (and possibly the two sound awards).
I suggest all of you research what we're supposed to be discussing in this thread before you actually discuss it.
KalMart said:So how's that cure for world hunger coming along, or is that a myth as well?
Pickle-El said:That makes absolutely no sense..........Not surprised.![]()
I know how the oscars work...I used to be involved with SAG and would receive the 'for your consideration' packages and screener DVD's. But for those here who don't, it's not your point, it's your attitude. A for effort, though. Cheers.Dan33977 said:What?
My point was that before you make assumptions (either good or bad) about how SUPERMAN RETURNS will perform at the Oscars, educate yourself about how the Academy Awards actually work and inform yourself about the reception of the particular film you're talking about among members of the Academy and members of various guilds. These people know more about this art and its many categories (i.e. visual effects) than anyone who posts in this forum will ever hope to.
Also, check out these websites; their respected webmasters are professionals who predict this stuff for a living! They know and understand exactly what the Academy (and other award-giving groups) likes to nominate.
www.oscarwatch.com
www.incontention.com
explode7 said:I'm sure POTC 2 is gonna break more records at the Oscars whether the critics like it or not because POTC2 break BO records although critics despised it.
explode7 said:POTC 2 will make more oscars than SR since it is apparently doing waaaaaay better than SR in everything so far such as BO and dvd and Rental Sales.
explode7 said:POTC 2 will make more oscars than SR since it is apparently doing waaaaaay better than SR in everything so far such as BO and dvd and Rental Sales.
explode7 said:I'm sure POTC 2 is gonna break more records at the Oscars whether the critics like it or not because POTC2 break BO records although critics despised it.
No problems.Dan33977 said:OK, I understand now. I did come off as a bit rude, so I'm sorry. The reason my attitude is a bit harsh is because a lot of people who post in this forum (specifically some of those who have already replied to this thread) really have no idea what they're talking about and it's painfully obvious when they post stuff like this:
I mean, this makes him look like an idiot. Citing box office numbers as evidence that a movie is better than another movie (which a lot of people do in this forum) is even a stretch, in my opinion, but I do understand the logic behind it; however, using box office numbers as evidence that a movie will win more Oscars is just ignorant. Seriously, the members of the Academy and of the various guilds don't give a **** how much money POTC: DMC made at the box office; they're educated, intelligent professionals.
Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended anyone because it certainly wasn't my intention to do so.
Dan33977 said:OK, I understand now. I did come off as a bit rude, so I'm sorry. The reason my attitude is a bit harsh is because a lot of people who post in this forum (specifically some of those who have already replied to this thread) really have no idea what they're talking about and it's painfully obvious when they post stuff like this:
...and like this:
I mean, this makes him look like an idiot.
Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended anyone because it certainly wasn't my intention to do so.
Explode7, citing box office numbers as evidence that a movie is better than another movie (which a lot of people do in this forum) is even a stretch, in my opinion, but I do understand the logic behind it; however, using box office numbers as evidence that a movie will win more Oscars is just ignorant. Seriously, the members of the Academy and of the various guilds don't give a **** how much money POTC: DMC made at the box office; they're educated, intelligent professionals.
I mean, your first reply doesn't even make sense, as someone else already pointed out (I think his screen-name is Pickle-El). Do you realize that the Academy and the various guilds that greatly influence the Academy's decisions actually consist of critics (which, by the way, is a good thing since they understand more about this art than anyone who posts in this forum ever will)? Again, your replies just prove the point that I've been trying to make since my first reply to this thread on the first page: most of you (both people who liked RETURNS and people who disliked RETURNS) have no idea what you're talking about.
explode7 said:What I'm trying to say here Pickle head is that POTC 2 will make more oscars than SR since it is apparently doing waaaaaay better than SR in everything so far such as BO and dvd and Rental Sales.
explode7 said:Sure thats why movies like LOTR and Star Wars never get any awards.![]()
No. The academy will look for the best usage of Visual effects. Roger Rabbit didnt look real in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, he looked like a Cartoon, and he was supposed to look like that, and it won the award.Excel said:the thing the academy will look for in special effects isnt how cool but how real.
That is as stupid as asking how I would know whether a sketch of a human squid is real or not. Obviously you can tell.Excel said:have you ever seen a man? yes. so itd be instantly noticable if he looked fake while flying. have you ever seen a human squid? hell no. so how you know if davy jones looked real?
Just to clarify, you do know that in the end its all mostly political...right?Dan33977 said:The Academy Awards are a measure of quality, not quantity, which is something you seem not to be able to understand!
Excel said:have you ever seen a man? yes. so itd be instantly noticable if he looked fake while flying. have you ever seen a human squid? hell no. so how you know if davy jones looked real?