Superman Returns Superman Returns has Oscar Considerations

[04nbod]

the critics loved the movie i'm not surprised superman has been put forward

 

[Kid_Kaos]

"Spider-Man" 1+2 and "Batman Begins" didn't get "Best Picture" nominations, neither did they win anything other than for effects or so. Small awards so to speak. And those were liked by the majority of fans, the critics and the general public. Spidey even made tons of money.

I don't see this movie winning for anything when Pirates 2 is competing in the same categories (effects, costumes).

 

[Jlandsw]

"Spider-Man" 1+2 and "Batman Begins" didn't get "Best Picture" nominations, neither did they win anything other than for effects or so. Small awards so to speak. And those were liked by both the majority of fans, the critics and the general public. Spidey even made tons of money.

I don't see this movie winning for anything when Pirates 2 is competing in the same categories (effects, costumes).

yea but pirates 2 wasn't that good, even the critics bashed it.

I think SR has a chance of winning a few oscars. I would love to see a comic book movie win best picture!

 

[explode7]

I'm sure POTC 2 is gonna break more records at the Oscars whether the critics like it or not because POTC2 break BO records although critics despised it.

 

[Pickle-El]

That makes absolutely no sense..........Not surprised.

 

[GreenKToo]

Seems like best visuals,and score are the most likely win for S.R.,if even that,it is a C.B. film after all.

 

[Super Kal]

lol, this is such a joke...


though the only one I would vote for would be Best Supporting Actor - Kevin Spacey

that's it though

 

[The Caped Knight]

Saw this over at the supermanhomepage.Warner Bros Oscar ads that appeared in the trades, pretty cool.

Source: http://www.oscarwatch.com/FYC/gallery/2006-07/film.php?key=Superman Returns


SIDE NOTE: Parker Posey is starring in a upcoming movie called FOR YOU CONSIDERATION about this very subject. t:

Intresting very interesting .

 

[KalMart]

Wow!

It's discouraging to me that most of you (this includes people who like and people who hated SUPERMAN RETURNS) have no idea what you're even talking about!

First, to all those who liked RETURNS: it's standard practice for each studio to put all of their films that have the potential to win even just one Academy Award up for consideration for every Academy Award; even FANTASTIC FOUR had posters like these last year! My best friend and I (who follow the Oscar season religiously every year) collect most of these posters every year (they're advertised in Variety, Hollywood's official newspaper, which we actually subscribe to).

Second, to all those who hated RETURNS and senselessly criticize whenever you get the chance to do so: before you make yourselves look like idiots (too late!) and aimlessly scoff at the idea of RETURNS winning an Academy Award, I'll educate you in this area of expertise. In actuality, RETURNS has a great chance of winning one Academy Award this year, and it is, you guessed it, Best Visual Effects. Now, I'll have you know (by the way, since you didn't like RETURNS, you're not going to like this, but the truth hurts) that it's no longer a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact, that RETURNS has groundbreaking visual effects because the Visual Effects Guild (which consists of people, professionals, experts who create visual effects for a living) has officially nominated the Bullet-In-The-Eye sequence for Best Visual Effect shot of the year!

There you have it: all the blind fanatics may stop ejaculating over the idea of RETURNS winning Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Score, and Best Art Direction, and all the blind morons who *********e to John Byrne's Superman may stop idiotically criticizing RETURNS because it actually has a chance of being nominated for Best Visual Effects (and possibly the two sound awards).

I suggest all of you research what we're supposed to be discussing in this thread before you actually discuss it.

Obviously an 'expert' in this department. So how's that cure for world hunger coming along, or is that a myth as well?

 

[Dan33977]

So how's that cure for world hunger coming along, or is that a myth as well?

What?

My point was that before you make assumptions (either good or bad) about how SUPERMAN RETURNS will perform at the Oscars, educate yourself about how the Academy Awards actually work and inform yourself about the reception of the particular film you're talking about among members of the Academy and members of the various guilds. These people know more about this art and its many categories (i.e. visual effects) than anyone who posts in this forum will ever hope to...

Also, check out these websites; their respected webmasters are professionals who predict this stuff for a living! They know and understand exactly what the Academy (and other award-giving groups) likes to nominate:

www.oscarwatch.com
www.incontention.com

 

[explode7]

That makes absolutely no sense..........Not surprised.

What I'm trying to say here Pickle head is that POTC 2 will make more oscars than SR since it is apparently doing waaaaaay better than SR in everything so far such as BO and dvd and Rental Sales.

 

[KalMart]

What?

My point was that before you make assumptions (either good or bad) about how SUPERMAN RETURNS will perform at the Oscars, educate yourself about how the Academy Awards actually work and inform yourself about the reception of the particular film you're talking about among members of the Academy and members of various guilds. These people know more about this art and its many categories (i.e. visual effects) than anyone who posts in this forum will ever hope to.

Also, check out these websites; their respected webmasters are professionals who predict this stuff for a living! They know and understand exactly what the Academy (and other award-giving groups) likes to nominate.

www.oscarwatch.com
www.incontention.com

I know how the oscars work...I used to be involved with SAG and would receive the 'for your consideration' packages and screener DVD's. But for those here who don't, it's not your point, it's your attitude. A for effort, though. Cheers.

 

[matthooper]

Do they give Academy awards for any of these catagories?

Worst use of Kryptonite.
Least imaginative story.
Best waste of a $10 million sequence.
Least coherent flashback.

 

[KalMart]

Narrowly edged out by 'Rocky Balboa'.

'When A Stranger Calls' takes it at the buzzer.

'Scary Movie 4' in a landslide.



I cry foul!

 

[Dan33977]

OK, I understand now. I did come off as a bit rude, so I'm sorry. The reason my attitude is a bit harsh is because a lot of people who post in this forum (specifically some of those who have already replied to this thread) really have no idea what they're talking about and it's painfully obvious when they post stuff like this:

I'm sure POTC 2 is gonna break more records at the Oscars whether the critics like it or not because POTC2 break BO records although critics despised it.

...and this:

POTC 2 will make more oscars than SR since it is apparently doing waaaaaay better than SR in everything so far such as BO and dvd and Rental Sales.

I mean, these make him look like an idiot!

Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended anyone because it certainly wasn't my intention to do so. Now I'm going to reply specifically to his replies:

POTC 2 will make more oscars than SR since it is apparently doing waaaaaay better than SR in everything so far such as BO and dvd and Rental Sales.

As I already stated above, citing box office numbers as evidence that a movie is better than another movie (which a lot of people do in this forum) is even a stretch, in my opinion, but I do understand the logic behind it; however, using box office numbers as evidence that a movie will win more Oscars is just ignorant. Seriously, the members of the Academy and of the various guilds don't give a **** how much money POTC: DMC made at the box office; they're educated, intelligent professionals, so how much money a movie has made has absolutely no affect on either how much the Academy and the various guilds will enjoy it or on the amount of awards they'll give to it. The Academy Awards are a measure of quality, not quantity, which is something a lot of those who disliked RETURNS and loved POTC: DMC always seem to forget.

I'm sure POTC 2 is gonna break more records at the Oscars whether the critics like it or not because POTC2 break BO records although critics despised it.

Again, what you said makes absolutely no sense, as someone else already pointed out (I think his screen-name is Pickle-El). Do you realize that the Academy and the various guilds that greatly influence the Academy's decisions actually consist of critics (which, by the way, is a good thing since they're professionals and do this stuff for a living, and understand more about this art and its various categories than anyone who posts in this forum ever will)? Again, your replies just prove the point that I've been trying to make since my first reply to this thread on the first page: most of you (both people who liked RETURNS and people who disliked RETURNS) have no idea what you're talking about and need to educate yourselves before you make assumptions on whether or not RETURNS will win any Academy Awards.

 

[KalMart]

OK, I understand now. I did come off as a bit rude, so I'm sorry. The reason my attitude is a bit harsh is because a lot of people who post in this forum (specifically some of those who have already replied to this thread) really have no idea what they're talking about and it's painfully obvious when they post stuff like this:



I mean, this makes him look like an idiot. Citing box office numbers as evidence that a movie is better than another movie (which a lot of people do in this forum) is even a stretch, in my opinion, but I do understand the logic behind it; however, using box office numbers as evidence that a movie will win more Oscars is just ignorant. Seriously, the members of the Academy and of the various guilds don't give a **** how much money POTC: DMC made at the box office; they're educated, intelligent professionals.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended anyone because it certainly wasn't my intention to do so.

No problems. I'm just messing around. But yeah, the whole oscar thing is a pretty shameless political campaign. When we got the package for 'Beyond The Sea', and I watched the DVD, I nearly laughed myself to death when reading For Your Consideration: Best Actor and Best Director. That's like nominating Kim Jong Il for the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[explode7]

OK, I understand now. I did come off as a bit rude, so I'm sorry. The reason my attitude is a bit harsh is because a lot of people who post in this forum (specifically some of those who have already replied to this thread) really have no idea what they're talking about and it's painfully obvious when they post stuff like this:



...and like this:



I mean, this makes him look like an idiot.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended anyone because it certainly wasn't my intention to do so.

Explode7, citing box office numbers as evidence that a movie is better than another movie (which a lot of people do in this forum) is even a stretch, in my opinion, but I do understand the logic behind it; however, using box office numbers as evidence that a movie will win more Oscars is just ignorant. Seriously, the members of the Academy and of the various guilds don't give a **** how much money POTC: DMC made at the box office; they're educated, intelligent professionals.

I mean, your first reply doesn't even make sense, as someone else already pointed out (I think his screen-name is Pickle-El). Do you realize that the Academy and the various guilds that greatly influence the Academy's decisions actually consist of critics (which, by the way, is a good thing since they understand more about this art than anyone who posts in this forum ever will)? Again, your replies just prove the point that I've been trying to make since my first reply to this thread on the first page: most of you (both people who liked RETURNS and people who disliked RETURNS) have no idea what you're talking about.

Sure thats why movies like LOTR and Star Wars never get any awards.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

What I'm trying to say here Pickle head is that POTC 2 will make more oscars than SR since it is apparently doing waaaaaay better than SR in everything so far such as BO and dvd and Rental Sales.

sorry dude, thats a dumb thing to say..

 

[Dan33977]

Sure thats why movies like LOTR and Star Wars never get any awards.

*sighs*

Wow!

Please stop embarrassing yourself. Your complete lack of knowledge in this field is painfully obvious. Reread my reply before you even think about continuing to discuss this topic (discuss, not debate, because you continue to disagree with me on facts on how the Academy and the various guilds that influence it work despite the fact that you don't know what you're talking about).

I never said that a movie that made a lot of money couldn't win a lot of awards; however, if they did win a lot, it wasn't because the movie made a lot of money! If the amount of Academy Awards that a movie won was proportionally equivalent to the amount of money it made, the ****tiest movies would be receiving Oscars because general audiences enjoy cheap, mindless entertainment! The Academy Awards are a measure of quality, not quantity, which is something you seem not to be able to understand!

And, again, what you said in your previous replies makes absolutely no sense, as someone else already pointed out (I think his screen-name is Pickle-El). The Academy and the various guilds that greatly influence their decisions actually consist of critics, professionals, people who do this stuff for a living and who understand more about this art and its carious categories (i.e. visual effects) than you will ever hope to.

Thanks for proving the point that I've been trying to make since my first reply to this thread on the first page: most of you (both people who liked RETURNS and people who disliked RETURNS) have no idea what you're talking about and need to educate yourselves on what exactly the Academy is, who it consists of, and how it works before you make any assumptions regarding what films will and will not be winning awards.

Please check out these websites; their respected webmasters are professionals who predict this stuff for a living! They know and understand exactly what the Academy (and other award-giving groups) likes to nominate:

www.oscarwatch.com
www.incontention.com

 

[KalMart]

POTC will take the FX award this year. And there was that little movie with the lion....

 

[I Am The Knight]

Dan33977, don't waste your time with explode7, he's known for being....Well, not so bright.

 

[sepharih]

the thing the academy will look for in special effects isnt how cool but how real.

No. The academy will look for the best usage of Visual effects. Roger Rabbit didn’t look real in “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”, he looked like a Cartoon, and he was supposed to look like that, and it won the award.

have you ever seen a man? yes. so itd be instantly noticable if he looked fake while flying. have you ever seen a human squid? hell no. so how you know if davy jones looked real?

That is as stupid as asking how I would know whether a sketch of a human squid is real or not. Obviously you can tell.

The Academy Awards are a measure of quality, not quantity, which is something you seem not to be able to understand!

Just to clarify, you do know that in the end it’s all mostly political...right?

 

[KalMart]

have you ever seen a man? yes. so itd be instantly noticable if he looked fake while flying. have you ever seen a human squid? hell no. so how you know if davy jones looked real?

Have you seen a man really fly?

 

[dark_b]

will SR be better if it wil win an oscar?

because arent teh oscars only opinions of other people? why should we care?

and to say that a movie is good because it has 5 oscars is IMO stupid.

 

[KalMart]

Awards are great...when something you like wins one, it's proof of excellence. When it doesn't win, the very concept of awards is flawed. Six of one, half-dozen of another.