Superman Returns Superman Returns lead nominations for the Saturn Awards!

[ultimatefan]

The movie received ten nominations, including best fantasy film, best director, best actor for Brandon Routh, best actress for Bosworth (the only one I´d question myself), best writing and best supporting actress for Parker Posey. Surprisingly, Kevin Spacey didn´t get one. Yet ANOTHER blow to those who keep trying to categorize the movieas part of the bottom barrel of superhero movies. Before naysayers try to dismiss the Saturns as a "lame award", Batman Begins and King Kong were the major winners last year. Among nominees are V for Vendetta, The Prestige and Children Of Men (best science fiction film), The Departed and Casino Royale (best action/adventure) and Marvel fans will (well, maybe not) like to know X-Men The Last Stand got six nominations.
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“Superman Returns” leads the 33rd Annual Saturn Awards with 10 nominations


The Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror films has announced the nominations for the 33rd Annual Saturn Awards. Leading the pack is Bryan Singer’s homage to the superhero mythos “Superman Returns” with 10 nominations. Garnering 6 nominations each, are “X-Men: The Last Stand” and Guillermo del Toro’s “Pan’s Labyrinth,” which received its nod in the restored category of Best International Film. Following closely behind are an eclectic mix: “Casino Royale,” “Mission Impossible III,” “Perfume: The Story of a Murderer,” “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest,” and “Stranger Than Fiction,” receiving 5 nominations each.


Warner Bros. Pictures flexed its muscles and led all film studios with a total of 21 nominations. Also with strong showings were Sony Pictures and 20th Century Fox with 15 and 13 nominations, respectively. Buena Vista plundered 11 nominations and MGM had a new license to kill with 8, followed closely by Picturehouse with 6 nominations and Lionsgate and Universal with 5 nominations each.


In the television categories, “Lost” continued to find nominations, receiving a total of 6. NBC’s newcomer “Heroes” burst onto the scene, earning 5 nominations, followed closely by Sci Fi’s “Battlestar Galactica” and Showtime’s “Dexter,” each garnering 4 nominations, while TNT’s “The Librarian: Return to King Solomon’s Mines” discovered 3 nominations.


A Special Recognition Award will be presented to the imaginative children’s book “Alien Xmas” written by Stephen Chiodo & Jim Strain, and published by Baby Tattoo Books.


This year marks the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films’ 35th Anniversary. The non-profit organization was founded in 1972 by film historian, Dr. Donald A. Reed. The Academy is currently headed by Robert Holguin, who serves as President of the Academy.


The winners will be announced at this year’s 33rd Annual Saturn Awards which takes place on Thursday, May 10, 2007 in Universal City. Hosting the event will be actor Greg Grunberg and comedian Jeffrey Ross. Grunberg is one of the stars of the highly popular NBC Universal television series, “Heroes” (and is nominated for his work on the show). Jeffrey Ross is one of the leading stand-up comedians whose brand of humor shines in roasts. Special Award recipients will be announced shortly.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Glad SR is leading the nominations, just shows that the movie was well recieved by people. Gutted X3 got ANY nominations though, IMO it only deserves, worst movie, worst script, poorest action scene's and poorest character development.

Glad SR got the nominations it did though, and IMO all are deserved expect maybe best actress for Bosworth.

 

[Kid_Kaos]

*rofl*
There are exactly two award shows that matter:

1. Golden Globes
2. Academy Awards

The rest is ... the REST. No one gives a hoot if MTV gives a price to a movie, or SpikeTV or this Saturn Sci-Fi whatever thingy. What's next? A BRAVO award for Routh?

And, funny how you try to make this nomination sound special by making a comment about "Batman Begins" and the next second you write X3 got nominated 6 f'n times!!! Seriously? Seriously, you like the movie, good for you. This no-name award proofs nothing, nor do the Razzies or whatever there pops up these days.

"Superman Returns" left it's mark - good or bad - it's over and time to move on.

PS: Chances are high Ghost Rider and F4-RotSS get nominated next year. Serious award show isn't it?

 

[gimmen64]

That's great news! Its good see that that the public sees SR for the film that it is. I feel that there were too many negative people writing on these boards and its only a small percentage of people that saw SR that had negative comments about the movie.

 

[matthooper]

This award is slightly more important than the razzies. Jeffry Ross is hosting.

You have to be kidding me that people are using this award show to defend the integrity of Superman Returns. That's like Britney Spears being nominated for Mother of the year. It means nothing. If you like the movie fine, if you don't fine. But doesn't anyone find it weird that the lovers have to constantly defend the film. What do you care what others think? It's just sad that you now think this is fuel for your pro-argument. No matter what you think or feel, the public doesn't care about Superman Returns or it's sequels. That doesn't mean that most didn't like it, they probably did. It just means that now, they don't give a crap. It didn not leave a mark and you can believe it all you want but the film is forgotten to the average person. The Saturn awards are a joke X-Men gets 6 nominations and you are cheering that it's a valid award. King Kong? I'm still drowsy from that snoozefest.

The haters have their own problems. The film was mediocre, it wasn't Bio-Dome. Let it go. You won. The film was a box office dissapointment, and I don't know one average Joe who gives a crap about the film or it's sequels.

 

[AssMan]

The haters have their own problems

At this point all sides have their own problems & issues. But you make it sound like the lovers are worse then the haters when both sides of the group suck equally. Although lexlives make the haters side alot more worse then the lovers side.

 

[Showtime]

This award is slightly more important than the razzies. Jeffry Ross is hosting.

You have to be kidding me that people are using this award show to defend the integrity of Superman Returns. That's like Britney Spears being nominated for Mother of the year. It means nothing. If you like the movie fine, if you don't fine. But doesn't anyone find it weird that the lovers have to constantly defend the film. What do you care what others think? It's just sad that you now think this is fuel for your pro-argument. No matter what you think or feel, the public doesn't care about Superman Returns or it's sequels. That doesn't mean that most didn't like it, they probably did. It just means that now, they don't give a crap. It didn not leave a mark and you can believe it all you want but the film is forgotten to the average person. The Saturn awards are a joke X-Men gets 6 nominations and you are cheering that it's a valid award. King Kong? I'm still drowsy from that snoozefest.

The haters have their own problems. The film was mediocre, it wasn't Bio-Dome. Let it go. You won. The film was a box office dissapointment, and I don't know one average Joe who gives a crap about the film or it's sequels.

You're right, the public really doesn't care. It is only the people on The Hype, Bluetights, and various other boards who care. This goes for both so called sides. The general public, whether they liked the movie or didn't like the movie, have moved on to other things. Obviously most of us have not. To say that so called "lovers" are using this to defend their "pro-argument" is hilarious. It is any less relevant than say, a blatant rumor about Singer leaving to shoot a movie called Nottingham? It seems the group with the title "haters" are using that article to justify their arguments. Seems like a two way street here, maybe not you personally, but these groups you are refering too.

This thread should probably be merged with the Academy Award Nominee thread anyway to make it easier for all, but I digress.

 

[ultimatefan]

The funny thing is the importance of the Saturn Awards comes exactly from the fact that they´re devoted to genre fans, to sci-fi, fantasy, adventure, horror films. The Academy and Golden Globes may matter more to average Joe - and even that is debatable - but these kinda movies with rare exceptions don´t get anything but technical nominations for these awards anyway, so the fact SR doesn´t get any major nominations there doesn´t mean anything. Plus, if it did get, the "haters" would find a way to say the Academy Awards and Golden Globes are lame - and many people think they are - as well.

This is not to prove to anybody that the movie´s good or bad, it´s to show that there´s a large number of people, and people who know and enjoy this kind of movie, that liked it. You didn´t like the movie, too bad for you, wish you did like I did, but that´s all good. The problem is when some fans try to fabricate a negative consensus that the movie sucks like it´s Batman & Robin or Catwoman, and there isn´t evidence of that. One of the big evidences is here, I don´t know a single Batman or Catwoman or Elektra fan who defends these movies, and yet there´re plenty of Superman fans to defend SR. Of course I´m aware some of the positive people may try to create a positive consensus as well, but this whole "the apologists are worse than the haters" argument, or vice-versa, in the end is just another way to try and shut opposite opinion. You´re gonna say you think the movie´s bad, fine, more power to you, but if you´re gonna try to keep selling that this is some undeniable bomb in the way of Schumacher or Pitof, I´m sorry, but that´s not gonna stick.

 

[gimmen64]

The funny thing is the importance of the Saturn Awards comes exactly from the fact that they´re devoted to genre fans, to sci-fi, fantasy, adventure, horror films. The Academy and Golden Globes may matter more to average Joe - and even that is debatable - but these kinda movies with rare exceptions don´t get anything but technical nominations for these awards anyway, so the fact SR doesn´t get any major nominations there doesn´t mean anything. Plus, if it did get, the "haters" would find a way to say the Academy Awards and Golden Globes are lame - and many people think they are - as well.

This is not to prove to anybody that the movie´s good or bad, it´s to show that there´s a large number of people, and people who know and enjoy this kind of movie, that liked it. You didn´t like the movie, too bad for you, wish you did like I did, but that´s all good. The problem is when some fans try to fabricate a negative consensus that the movie sucks like it´s Batman & Robin or Catwoman, and there isn´t evidence of that. One of the big evidences is here, I don´t know a single Batman or Catwoman or Elektra fan who defends these movies, and yet there´re plenty of Superman fans to defend SR. Of course I´m aware some of the positive people may try to create a positive consensus as well, but this whole "the apologists are worse than the haters" argument, or vice-versa, in the end is just another way to try and shut opposite opinion. You´re gonna say you think the movie´s bad, fine, more power to you, but if you´re gonna try to keep selling that this is some undeniable bomb in the way of Schumacher or Pitof, I´m sorry, but that´s not gonna stick.

Werd. This movie was no way a bomb and the more awards keep rolling in for SR. t:

 

[Freddy_Krueger]

The funny thing is the importance of the Saturn Awards comes exactly from the fact that they´re devoted to genre fans, to sci-fi, fantasy, adventure, horror films.

Exactly. The Academy Awards and the Golden Globes center around the entirety of film, so their nominations tend to be towards the more dramatic pieces. Awards like the Saturn Awards allow films that would never have a chance (SR, Pirates of the Caribbean) of being nominated for Best Picture and other such noms.

 

[Showtime]

It's not like the Saturn awards should be shunned just because the Academy Awards or Golden Globes are more well known or prestigious. As was said above, the Saturn awards are more relevant to movies like Superman Returns. When have you seen a superhero type movie win an Oscar or GG besides effects, music, and the such?

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

*rofl*
There are exactly two award shows that matter:


2. Academy Awards

Yeah, and it's up for one of those too...

 

[phoenix_force]

i love that they nominated Parker Posey and Famke Janssen
i hate that they nominated Kate Bosworth!!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

This award is slightly more important than the razzies. Jeffry Ross is hosting.

You have to be kidding me that people are using this award show to defend the integrity of Superman Returns. That's like Britney Spears being nominated for Mother of the year. It means nothing. If you like the movie fine, if you don't fine. But doesn't anyone find it weird that the lovers have to constantly defend the film. What do you care what others think? It's just sad that you now think this is fuel for your pro-argument. No matter what you think or feel, the public doesn't care about Superman Returns or it's sequels. That doesn't mean that most didn't like it, they probably did. It just means that now, they don't give a crap. It didn not leave a mark and you can believe it all you want but the film is forgotten to the average person. The Saturn awards are a joke X-Men gets 6 nominations and you are cheering that it's a valid award. King Kong? I'm still drowsy from that snoozefest.

The haters have their own problems. The film was mediocre, it wasn't Bio-Dome. Let it go. You won. The film was a box office dissapointment, and I don't know one average Joe who gives a crap about the film or it's sequels.

Not sure how you can call King Kong a snooze fest, i thought it was fantastic.

Anyway, the fact of the matter is that the so-called 'haters' constantly state AS FACT that the general public did not like SR. When SR wins (more and more it has to be said) awards, this goes to show they are wrong. SR has already won PLENTY of awards. It won 2 Total Film readers awards, one for Best 2006 Movie. when it was up against ALL 2006 movies, and Brandon got best breakout star. Now i know thousands of people here in the U.K voted on these awards, so much for the general public not liking it huh. It has won other awards as well and now it has 10 saturn nominations and i'm guessing it will win 6. Yet still the haters will say it was hated by the GA.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

The haters will always hate
The trolls will always troll
And LexLives will always write BS. t:

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The haters will always hate
The trolls will always troll
And LexLives will always write BS. t:

Ha ha, so true, SO true!t:

 

[ultimatefan]

Not sure how you can call King Kong a snooze fest, i thought it was fantastic.

Anyway, the fact of the matter is that the so-called 'haters' constantly state AS FACT that the general public did not like SR. When SR wins (more and more it has to be said) awards, this goes to show they are wrong. SR has already won PLENTY of awards. It won 2 Total Film readers awards, one for Best 2006 Movie. when it was up against ALL 2006 movies, and Brandon got best breakout star. Now i know thousands of people here in the U.K voted on these awards, so much for the general public not liking it huh. It has won other awards as well and now it has 10 saturn nominations and i'm guessing it will win 6. Yet still the haters will say it was hated by the GA.

Yeah. You can dislike the movie as much as you want, but don´t pretend everybody else feels the same way. There´s at least a considerably high number of fans, moviegoers and critics who think it´s a good movie. Simple as that.

 

[Matt]

That's great news! Its good see that that the public sees SR for the film that it is. :

I wouldn't call people who watch/vote on Saturn awards 'the public'. It is more like "Trekkies saw SR for what it really is".

Yeah, the Saturn Awards are a joke. You can spin this however you like saying that BB got it, but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't matter. It didn't matter for BB, it doesn't matter for this.

 

[Matt]

Not sure how you can call King Kong a snooze fest, i thought it was fantastic.

Anyway, the fact of the matter is that the so-called 'haters' constantly state AS FACT that the general public did not like SR. When SR wins (more and more it has to be said) awards, this goes to show they are wrong. SR has already won PLENTY of awards. It won 2 Total Film readers awards, one for Best 2006 Movie. when it was up against ALL 2006 movies, and Brandon got best breakout star. Now i know thousands of people here in the U.K voted on these awards, so much for the general public not liking it huh. It has won other awards as well and now it has 10 saturn nominations and i'm guessing it will win 6. Yet still the haters will say it was hated by the GA.

The general audience didn't see it. They were impartial to it. You can't call people who choose the Saturn Awards or Total Film awards the "General Public" because they aren't.

 

[Showtime]

The general audience didn't see it. They were impartial to it. You can't call people who choose the Saturn Awards or Total Film awards the "General Public" because they aren't.

Who votes for these awards, how does it work?

 

[Matt]

Its pretty much like the Oscars, with an academy...but the academy is made up of sci-fi film makers, sci-fi writiers, afficondos, etc. Its not exactly as if this is representation of the public as people seem to be implying.

Also, not to throw around allegations lightly, but Bryan Singer is a fairly powerful member of the Saturn Academy (he is a chair on one of their committees), and other committee heads (who pretty much handle the nominations) include Singer's friend Brandon Boyce who wrote Apt Pupil for Singer, and a Warner Bros executive Bradley Marcus. Hmmm...

 

[ultimatefan]

Its pretty much like the Oscars, with an academy...but the academy is made up of sci-fi film makers, sci-fi writiers, afficondos, etc. Its not exactly as if this is representation of the public as people seem to be implying.

Also, not to throw around allegations lightly, but Bryan Singer is a fairly powerful member of the Saturn Academy (he is a chair on one of their committees), and other committee heads (who pretty much handle the nominations) include Singer's friend Brandon Boyce who wrote Apt Pupil for Singer, and a Warner Bros executive Bradley Marcus. Hmmm...

Funny, it´s been said again and again on the thread that the award represents genre fans, that is, the many people who appreciate that kind of movie. It´s highly arguable if the Academy Awards or Golden Globes or even People´s Choice awards can be considered reliable representations of the general audience. The Saturns may in principle represent a segment of the audience, but it´s a sizable segment that enjoys the kind of movie that SR is.

How much influence Chris Nolan and Peter Jackson have on the Saturns? They were the big winners last year... How much influence Singer has on RottenTomatoes, IMDB, Yahoo Movies, Total Film and all the other places where SR has got positive grades?

 

[Showtime]

Its pretty much like the Oscars, with an academy...but the academy is made up of sci-fi film makers, sci-fi writiers, afficondos, etc. Its not exactly as if this is representation of the public as people seem to be implying.

Also, not to throw around allegations lightly, but Bryan Singer is a fairly powerful member of the Saturn Academy (he is a chair on one of their committees), and other committee heads (who pretty much handle the nominations) include Singer's friend Brandon Boyce who wrote Apt Pupil for Singer, and a Warner Bros executive Bradley Marcus. Hmmm...

Thanks for the info, I never even heard of it personally. I think the opposite, I think it is a representation of so called "fanboys" and people interested in this genre. This would mean that not all fans of this genre hated the movie as some would lead you to believe.

I am sure there are many connections throughout the industry, I wouldn't throw any limbs to the pirranhas though Matt, that's how horror movies start.

 

[Matt]

Funny, it´s been said again and again on the thread that the award represents genre fans, that is, the many people who appreciate that kind of movie.

That's great news! Its good see that that the public sees SR for the film that it is.

Anyway, the fact of the matter is that the so-called 'haters' constantly state AS FACT that the general public did not like SR. When SR wins (more and more it has to be said) awards, this goes to show they are wrong. Yet still the haters will say it was hated by the GA.

Curious, could've fooled me.

How much influence Chris Nolan and Peter Jackson have on the Saturns? They were the big winners last year...

Honestly, it appears not much at all.

How much influence Singer has on RottenTomatoes, IMDB, Yahoo Movies, Total Film and all the other places where SR has got positive grades?

So critics like it? Great. Whats your point? It is neither here nor there. This thread was made to discuss the Saturn Awards. If people want to use the Saturn Awards as ammunition of how great this movie is, it should be pointed out that Singer has quite a bit of influence over them. That is all I am saying.

 

[Matt]

Thanks for the info, I never even heard of it personally. I think the opposite, I think it is a representation of so called "fanboys" and people interested in this genre. This would mean that not all fans of this genre hated the movie as some would lead you to believe.

I am sure there are many connections throughout the industry, I wouldn't throw any limbs to the pirranhas though Matt, that's how horror movies start.

Like I said, I'm not throwing out any allegations. I am just saying Singer has quite a disporportional ammount of influence over the Saturn Awards Academy. It is just an interesting side note. People can make of it what they would like.