The Dark Knight TDK Press Screenings

[Octoberist]

that quote with the Las Vegas Weekly.

What...what does that mean?

 

[Gianakin_]

The naysayers will ask "How do you know this without seeing the movie" and my reply is simply, because I'm smarter than you.

I'm a yaysayer and I'm still asking you. And your reply is very... yeah, classy.

 

[Gianakin_]

that quote with the Las Vegas Weekly.

What...what does that mean?

It's... that's what a man who thinks he can write well reads like.

 

[Conebone69]

that quote with the Las Vegas Weekly.

What...what does that mean?

Dont even think about it, the guys an idiot

 

[CrimsonDeath]

Dont even think about it, the guys an idiot

I tried to access his actual review, but it's gone for good....thank the gods for that.

 

[gwynplaine]

You gotta be kidding me. Too seriously? What ****** critic said that?!

Redundant ?t:

"You'll never hear a child say when I grow up I want to be a critic." Francois Truffaut.

 

[Octoberist]

man, where are the advanced reviews for this movie? it's killing me

 

[sandmjuggalos]

It's like this quote I found in RottenTomatoes from some critic.....

"There's nothing particularly wrong with Begins, but in a way, that's exactly what's wrong with it." - Las Vegas Weekly.



People, especially critics, need to get over their expectations and take the movie for what it is....

There's the crux, he's in Vegas. 90% of the people here are a**munches and hate everything. Plus, the LV Weekly sucks anyway. It's just one of those little side papers. Meh.

 

[Figs]

The naysayers will ask "How do you know this without seeing the movie" and my reply is simply, because I'm smarter than you.

That line alone from your quote tells me one thing...you're a *****e bag.

Typical fanboy nerd acting smarter/better than everyone. LULZ!

Dude, get off your pedestal.

 

[kyuubijavi1]

lol if people expect 60's batman this is not there movie at all
but im fairly certain this movie will get 85 and up mostly cause
when bb came out got mixed reviews but now its praised by all the critics as the top superhero movie or the one that there compared to
So if TDK is seen as what it is then it will be high

 

[Crook]

That line alone from your quote tells me one thing...your a *****e bag.

*you're

 

[Sharkboy]

I wouldnt call the reaction to batman begins, mixed. It was quite positive if I can recall. the ones that gave it negative reviews were

a) general moviegoers who were quite taken aback with the overall change in tone from not just the batman series but the general superhero flick genre. Alot of critics saw this as overly pretentous.

b) plain and simple, the nostalgic Burton fans, dont get me wrong i love Tim Burton and i loved what he did with the bat films, but there will always be people clinging on to that film and that time. You see it everywhere, "the score isnt as iconic as Danny Elfman's", "Keaton has a better batman voice than christian bales and hes a better Bruce Wayne", "Burton puts in more atmosphere than Nolan did". Im just waiting for all the critics to compare their beloved Nicolson Joker to Ledgers portrayal.

That being said, people know what they are getting themselves into this time round with TDK, and I honestly think this film will be praised alot more than begins (which was already highly praised to begin with)

 

[Conebone69]

man, where are the advanced reviews for this movie? it's killing me

I know, I really wanna hear what someone has to say about it

 

[GoldenState]

I wouldnt call the reaction to batman begins, mixed. It was quite positive if I can recall. the ones that gave it negative reviews were

Are we talking about critics here or the audience? Because obviously it was one of the best received comic flicks ever with audiences. If it wasn't it would've stalled and finished with around 150m-160m domestic after it's disappointing opening week.

 

[Voyeur]

I see The Dark Knight rated on the Tomatometer around mid 80's just like Batman Begins. I don't recall the "top critics" rating in the 60's but if so, I think their ratings will be higher for TDK.

The reason I don't see TDK rate in the 90's is because it isn't a "safe" film. Iron Man was what I call a "safe". It had a great cast, solid story, great effects and the right amount of humor. Much like the Spider-man films (especially 1 and 2), there are not many options regarding how to portray Iron Man's story...and the filmakers told the story well and made it light, fun and without taking too many chances.

The Dark Knight, like Batman Begins, will take chances. It will be dark and violent. And considering a lot of people still think of Batman as one half of a lighter-hearted dynamic duo, making the characters darker will turn off some people. It's also a long film, with (by all indications) and intricate plot. Many will appreciate the filmakers' ambitiousness, others will not.

Any filmaker tackling Batman and his crazy villains will have a couple of options: Make it lighter, fun and somewhat family-friendly (dare I use the word "camp). Or go dark, sinister and downright disturbing. Either choice will lose somebody. Which is why I don't consider it a "safe" film.

While I'd love for TDK to receive a rating in the 90's, it just won't happen. I predict about 15% of critics just won't get the film. However, the 80+% of critics who recommend it will do so enthusiastically. Remember, many of those critics who liked Batman Begins actually ranked the film among their top 10 that year.

 

[Solidus]

I wouldnt call the reaction to batman begins, mixed. It was quite positive if I can recall. the ones that gave it negative reviews were

a) general moviegoers who were quite taken aback with the overall change in tone from not just the batman series but the general superhero flick genre. Alot of critics saw this as overly pretentous.

b) plain and simple, the nostalgic Burton fans, dont get me wrong i love Tim Burton and i loved what he did with the bat films, but there will always be people clinging on to that film and that time. You see it everywhere, "the score isnt as iconic as Danny Elfman's", "Keaton has a better batman voice than christian bales and hes a better Bruce Wayne", "Burton puts in more atmosphere than Nolan did". Im just waiting for all the critics to compare their beloved Nicolson Joker to Ledgers portrayal.

That being said, people know what they are getting themselves into this time round with TDK, and I honestly think this film will be praised alot more than begins (which was already highly praised to begin with)

Very well said. Some critics with BB just believed all Comic Book movies should be fluff and fun. And when Begins took a serious route I think some critics were just not expecting it at all.

Begins was praised by most people though, and like you said people know what to expect in terms of tone with TDK.

But I believe that TDK will probably gather above Begins in reviews at RT. I believe it will be above a 90. But we will see.

If Iron Man can get 93, lets hope TDK will go above that *if it is good* because some critics do believe still, *especially older ones* that comic book movies can't be taken seriously.

Yet we just all have to learn when some of the reviews come out no movie gets perfect scores, and I'm sure some critics will bash it. I mean Time Magazine and EW bashed Begins. And Praised Spider-Man 3. That just kinda shows ya what some critics are after.

But I will be not on the boards as much as I use to be, I can tell its getting cluttered with "certain types" of people around here.

 

[Solidus]

I see The Dark Knight rated on the Tomatometer around mid 80's just like Batman Begins. I don't recall the "top critics" rating in the 60's but if so, I think their ratings will be higher for TDK.

The reason I don't see TDK rate in the 90's is because it isn't a "safe" film. Iron Man was what I call a "safe". It had a great cast, solid story, great effects and the right amount of humor. Much like the Spider-man films (especially 1 and 2), there are not many options regarding how to portray Iron Man's story...and the filmakers told the story well and made it light, fun and without taking too many chances.

The Dark Knight, like Batman Begins, will take chances. It will be dark and violent. And considering a lot of people still think of Batman as one half of a lighter-hearted dynamic duo, making the characters darker will turn off some people. It's also a long film, with (by all indications) and intricate plot. Many will appreciate the filmakers' ambitiousness, others will not.

Any filmaker tackling Batman and his crazy villains will have a couple of options: Make it lighter, fun and somewhat family-friendly (dare I use the word "camp). Or go dark, sinister and downright disturbing. Either choice will lose somebody. Which is why I don't consider it a "safe" film.

While I'd love for TDK to receive a rating in the 90's, it just won't happen. I predict about 15% of critics just won't get the film. However, the 80+% of critics who recommend it will do so enthusiastically. Remember, many of those critics who liked Batman Begins actually ranked the film among their top 10 that year.

You make a great point. But I *this is not solid or concrete just a feeling* that it will rate in the 90's. Because Batman Begins paved the way for serious more darker toned movies. That usually were not before. I mean look at after that V for Vendetta and 300, though those films may of had some problems other then violence, I think some people are getting use to that these movies they expect to be light hearted don't have to be. I mean look at Casino Royale. A much darker toned Bond that the previous ones. I think it is becoming more accepted.

I know a few critics that bashed Begins at first later said that they enjoyed more the second time. So I think that more will be ready knowing what TDK will be like, very dark and more seriously toned.

But we I guess will find out in the upcoming month. But I think/hope critics have gotten over that, "we need light-hearted blockbusters" living in 90's a lot of them seem to be doing.

 

[Sharkboy]

Are we talking about critics here or the audience? Because obviously it was one of the best received comic flicks ever with audiences. If it wasn't it would've stalled and finished with around 150m-160m domestic after it's disappointing opening week.

Yeah obviously thats what i said, it was highly positive, with audiences AND critics, i was merely attempting to point out the reasons why some DIDN'T like it, and to some extent they are all valid points.

 

[Sharkboy]

You make a great point. But I *this is not solid or concrete just a feeling* that it will rate in the 90's. Because Batman Begins paved the way for serious more darker toned movies. That usually were not before. I mean look at after that V for Vendetta and 300, though those films may of had some problems other then violence, I think some people are getting use to that these movies they expect to be light hearted don't have to be. I mean look at Casino Royale. A much darker toned Bond that the previous ones. I think it is becoming more accepted.

I know a few critics that bashed Begins at first later said that they enjoyed more the second time. So I think that more will be ready knowing what TDK will be like, very dark and more seriously toned.

But we I guess will find out in the upcoming month. But I think/hope critics have gotten over that, "we need light-hearted blockbusters" living in 90's a lot of them seem to be doing.

You know I also think Casino Royale was heavily influenced by Batman Begins. In terms of how they made it into a "reboot/drastic change of tone/added grittiness" type of film.

 

[Voyeur]

You make a great point. But I *this is not solid or concrete just a feeling* that it will rate in the 90's. Because Batman Begins paved the way for serious more darker toned movies.

It's true, BB should go a long way to getting critics prepared for the dark, sinister tone of TDK...especially if they've caught any of the new trailers.

I like your point about James Bond. He is a character and style that has been portrayed a couple of different ways as well. I don't know, I'm still skeptical. Part of me honestly believes the Batman film I want to see can't possibly receive more than 90% praise from critics.

 

[Solidus]

It's true, BB should go a long way to getting critics prepared for the dark, sinister tone of TDK...especially if they've caught any of the new trailers.

I like your point about James Bond. He is a character and style that has been portrayed a couple of different ways as well. I don't know, I'm still skeptical. Part of me honestly believes the Batman film I want to see can't possibly receive more than 90% praise from critics.

I see what you mean. Though Bond got a 92. I have a feeling it will be an 88-92.

But you do make good points.

 

[Crook]

I don't really think it matters in the long run. This is the type of film that's critic-proof because of all the hype behind it.

 

[kyuubijavi1]

Well for me the main thing i hope is that I get what i want and thats a good no great Batman flick the rest is just pride I want my movie to be tops i want it to have top dollor money do i really expect it no do i know it can pull it off yes thats why i will defend it and watch it multiple times hoping that it makes what it deserves cause this movie has drawn in the fans in ways I havent seen any other movie do so every early review has been great and when the test screening do happen thats when we will truly know if we are getting what we are expecting

 

[Voyeur]

Plus, Chicago critics LOVE films made in Chicago! And there's a ridiculous number of film critics from Chicago.

 

[jmc]

It's true, BB should go a long way to getting critics prepared for the dark, sinister tone of TDK...especially if they've caught any of the new trailers.

After BB threw the critics off, I think they'll be prepared for less of a 'superhero film' and more of a gritty crime drama.