The Dark Knight Tdk/sm3

[StarkTheProdigy]

Let me say, i loved the dark knight. but i started thinking this after the 2nd time i saw it. alot was happening in it, the joker, mobs,bad cops, twoface/harvey dent, deaths, drama, drama. so a lot was going on. i heard no complaints about it. when spiderman 3 came out, everyone went nuts, and said waaaayyyy too much was going on in it. new goblin,venom,sandman,black suit, relationships, drama, drama. both movies had a lot, and imo, the events happening in the dark knight were much more complex than the ones in sm3. idk, i just started thinking about this, post your thoughts, and let me say this: IM NOT SAYING SPIDERMAN 3 IS BETTER THAN THE DARK KNIGHT. im just saying, ppl should think about this. post away. was it the way the movies were set up, the order of events...?

 

[chaseter]

You will be mugged in the parking lot. Take a look at the writing and CGI of Spider-Man 3 and then go take a look at TDK. THE END.

 

[DACrowe]

I think the backlash at SM3 was overreaction from overhype, but at best it is an okay movie while TDK is a masterpiece.

That is the difference.

 

[Bat-Mite]

Okay, topic creator, I've thought about it like you wanted and I really don't know what you want me to say on the matter. Because even though there was a lot going on in TDK, it was all meticulously thought out and stands up pretty well to scrutiny. Completely unlike Spider-Man 3, which was poorly written and had a villain forced upon the director pretty well into the movie's production, resulting in a very choppy story that didn't even make sense in places. If someone's not understanding something about Spider-Man 3, it's probably due to poor writing. If someone's not understanding something about The Dark Knight, they probably need to watch it another time or two to let things sink in.

 

["V"]

Spider-Man 3 was a disaster. The reason there are no major complaints about the multiple threads running through The Dark Knight is because they were well written and directed. Spider-Man 3 tried to add in uncessary drama which then impacted on the previous films and created huge plot holes - like Sandman's daughter and him killing Uncle Ben. We were shown Sandman's daughter for about five seconds and she's never heard of again until Venom somehow finds out about it and starts talking about it to Sandman!!? Nobody else in the film was privvy to that - how could Venom have known?

Pretty much every scene in The Dark Knight was used to propel and drive the story forward, unlike Spider-Man 3 which was throwing us dancing numbers (!?) and just sidetracking the story.

The main problem with Spider-Man 3 is that it didn't develop any of the characters; it was just a hodge-podge. Characters would just appear randomly with a plot device: Venom: "Hey Sandman, Spider-Man did wrong to you and your daughter, even though he doesn't even know she exists - wanna kill him?" or the good old butler who has about 2 lines in all three films combined suddently blurting out "Oh, Harry, sorry I didn't tell you this before you got your Harvey Dent look, but your dad was a maniac and killed himself..."

 

[jed.exodus.89]

sp3 was **** and tdk wasnt! end of, now lets close this thread and get on with our lives

 

[Boom]

Let me say, i loved the dark knight. but i started thinking this after the 2nd time i saw it. alot was happening in it, the joker, mobs,bad cops, twoface/harvey dent, deaths, drama, drama. so a lot was going on. i heard no complaints about it. when spiderman 3 came out, everyone went nuts, and said waaaayyyy too much was going on in it. new goblin,venom,sandman,black suit, relationships, drama, drama. both movies had a lot, and imo, the events happening in the dark knight were much more complex than the ones in sm3. idk, i just started thinking about this, post your thoughts, and let me say this: IM NOT SAYING SPIDERMAN 3 IS BETTER THAN THE DARK KNIGHT. im just saying, ppl should think about this. post away. was it the way the movies were set up, the order of events...?

Yes, both movies have alot going on. The difference lies in the fact that TDK pulled it off. Spider-Man 3 didn't.

 

[Spider-Fan]

TDK is a better movie and lived up to its hype. I think people make too much about SM3's flaws cause they expected something as good as TDK and got the 3rd best installment of the Spidey series instead.

Also, TDK juggled all that was going on well. SM3 I feel didn't develop Brock pre-Venom enough and made a few plot points too conveniant (Sandman/Venom team-up scene and Butler scene come to mind). I love SM3 and feel it to be underrated, but TDK is flat out a better movie.

 

[Bunker]

Enough said.

 

[Mike53421]

Good God, I think I had actually successfully erased the dance scene from my memory. I *KNEW* it still existed, but visually, I had blocked it out.

Dammit.

And yeah, as mentioned, TDK was well-organized, Spiderman 3 was not.

 

[up2nogood316]

i really didnt like the spiderman films, i mean any of them. even spiderman 2, which is supposed to be pretty good i found laughable after begins. i guess im not a spiderman fan, i just found everything just ..meh.

 

[Bat-Mite]

Enough said.

lol. Some of the campiness from that movie is right up there with the stuff from Batman and Robin.

 

[Boom]

lol. Some of the campiness from that movie is right up there with the stuff from Batman and Robin.

Batman credit card. For the loss.

 

[Spider-Fan]

lol. Some of the campiness from that movie is right up there with the stuff from Batman and Robin.

Have you watched B&R recently

 

[Bunker]

Have you watched B&R recently

I would hope not.

 

[Boom]

Watch B&R, then go see TDK. Makes it that much better.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I would hope not.

Only way I'll ever watch B&R anymore is if I either have the rifftrax for it or I am so drunk I won't remember watching it at all. That'd be about it.

 

[Dark Globe]

You wanna know why TDK was better? It lacked an Emo Peter Parker. Enough said.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

so, from all your responses, its the emo thing lol
ok, like i said im not on either movies sides, i loved both,
but i see what all of you are saying.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

You will be mugged in the parking lot. Take a look at the writing and CGI of Spider-Man 3 and then go take a look at TDK. THE END.

Hey here's and idea
L2 read, i said i wasn't saying sm3 was better than tdk, its in bold

 

[Ace of Knaves]

[quote="V";15373034]Spider-Man 3 was a disaster. The reason there are no major complaints about the multiple threads running through The Dark Knight is because they were well written and directed. Spider-Man 3 tried to add in uncessary drama which then impacted on the previous films and created huge plot holes - like Sandman's daughter and him killing Uncle Ben. We were shown Sandman's daughter for about five seconds and she's never heard of again until Venom somehow finds out about it and starts talking about it to Sandman!!? Nobody else in the film was privvy to that - how could Venom have known?

Pretty much every scene in The Dark Knight was used to propel and drive the story forward, unlike Spider-Man 3 which was throwing us dancing numbers (!?) and just sidetracking the story.

The main problem with Spider-Man 3 is that it didn't develop any of the characters; it was just a hodge-podge. Characters would just appear randomly with a plot device: Venom: "Hey Sandman, Spider-Man did wrong to you and your daughter, even though he doesn't even know she exists - wanna kill him?" or the good old butler who has about 2 lines in all three films combined suddently blurting out "Oh, Harry, sorry I didn't tell you this before you got your Harvey Dent look, but your dad was a maniac and killed himself..."[/quote]

venom knows about his daughter because the symbiote carries its memories from host to host. so peter knew about his daughter and the memory was carried to brock via the symbiote.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Enough said.

"now dig on this"

 

[Boom]

"now dig on this"

Kill me.

 

[Boom]

venom knows about his daughter because the symbiote carries its memories from host to host. so peter knew about his daughter and the memory was carried to brock via the symbiote.

...Wait, did Spider-Man even know about his daughter? I don't recall Sandman ever telling him.

 

[Vile]

What Nolan did with Two-Face Raimi should have done with Venom.


Not 2 and half scenes with Topher, then for some odd reason he's Venom and wants to kill everyone.