Sequels Team up villains for movies...

[Eggyman]

I agree -- The Lizard and Kraven are the best bet, that way we can avoid team-ups and have a three way battle (with Spidey protecting Lizard at the same time . . . if he needs protecting).

 

[fletch1076]

I am not against team-ups at all--well not team-ups but multiple villains. It worked well for a number of different movies--batman returns, batman begins, superman 2, xmen, daredevil.

Spider-mans rogue gallery is so massive that if you don't have multiple villians we will never see them all on the big screen.

The proplem is ithe running time. everyone understand that the first movie of a franchase is the origin story. but people need to realize that every movie if done right in the franchase is an origin story. Because you are always introducing a new villain, and in more cases their origin story is much more compelling then the hero's and actually should demand more screen time

 

[venom892]

Whoever said the Venom and Sandman team-up worked is easily entertained.Anyways if they don't go with a Lizard/Kraven The hunter story for part 4 then it be really disappointing.As someone said it practically writes itself.The parallel between connors and his wife and Pete/MJ.Elements of Kraven's last hunt.Spectacular triple threat battles between Lizard Kraven and spidey.After 3 we need a great movie to restore the franchise's quality.This would be awesome.Come on Sony this is the movie you need to make.

P.S. Also include Spider-man being buried alive by kraven.Him rising from his grave is one of spidey's most awe inspiring moments.

 

[Spiderine]

800 million plus and counting. I would say Venom and Sandman worked.

 

[The Joker]

800 million plus and counting. I would say Venom and Sandman worked.

So, you judge a movie based on box office numbers, and not the actual quality of the movie?

 

[CrimeMaster!]

No team ups for the next film.

The 1 villain formula works the best for Raimi.

 

[dos_acoustic]

Vulture adn Electro--this team-up has been going on in the comics for a while. Don't know if its great but it is there(connection to peter, Vulture could start off as Aunt May's love interest)

I was actually thinking of that today. I would actually love to see that. Maybe he could find out that Peter is Spider man and he is getting at Peter through Aunt May. Mess with his head a little.

 

[venom892]

800 million plus and counting. I would say Venom and Sandman worked.

You see this the thing with box office.That money represents people who went to see the movie not the people who left the movie happy or thinking it was great.In my theater after the movie ended the audience didn't even clap.But those people's money is still represented in that total.Get my point?

 

[Visionary]

What ****** claps after seeing a movie, besides nerds, what is this the opera now?

Sony doesn't need to restore a damn thing for you people, listening to you idiots is what got Venom's overrated ass in SM3 in the first place. Now you're a disgruntled fanboy (for the millionth time) and you're back with more demands.

Anyways if they don't go with a Lizard/Kraven The hunter story for part 4 then it be really disappointing.

LOL, this reminds me of you idiots saying..."If they don't put Venom in SM3 it will be really disappointing." Now look at you.

Sam Raimi is damned if do, and damned if he don't. Which is why fanboys should be ignored at all cost. You just can't please the MoFos!

 

[fletch1076]

visonary, you said it all. My favorite are the fanboys who believe venom will be brought back for the fourth. yeah that's plausable--or the sin six fanboys who believe that doc ock will be back. These are the same fanboys who one minute say they hate multiple villians yet in the next thread try to cast the sin six. And venom sucked in sm3 not because Sam didn't like him and didn't devote enough time to him, he sucked becasue venom sucks.

 

[LordSimen]

Lizard and Kraven are your best bet for a NON-TEAM-UP movie, where the villians don't team up. However, villians that work best in team ups are pretty much 90% of the villians that have been a part of the Sinister Six. Vulture, Doc Ock, Electro, Rhino, Kraven, etc, etc...

 

[venom892]

What ****** claps after seeing a movie, besides nerds, what is this the opera now?

Sony doesn't need to restore a damn thing for you people, listening to you idiots is what got Venom's overrated ass in SM3 in the first place. Now you're a disgruntled fanboy (for the millionth time) and you're back with more demands.



LOL, this reminds me of you idiots saying..."If they don't put Venom in SM3 it will be really disappointing." Now look at you.

Sam Raimi is damned if do, and damned if he don't. Which is why fanboys should be ignored at all cost. You just can't please the MoFos!

First I don't see why you have to be insulting with your comments.I haven't insulted anyone who has expressed their like for the movie.Also I never wanted Venom in the third film.I didn't even want him in the franchise until part 5 or rami left.
About your comment about clapping after a movie I've seen it many times.Some movies I've seen it after off the top of my head Spider-man 2,Batman Begins and more recently Transformers.Also I said it would Disappoint me if the Kraven/Lizard combo wasn't used.I didn't say it would be disappointing to everyone as that's up to their leisure.I loved The first two films but felt the third one lacked the quality of the first two.That's my opinion if you enjoyed the film that's great, But don't insult mine.

 

[srnrew]

 

[chaseter]

Lizard and Kraven are perfect for SM4

Electro and Scorpion for SM5. Electro is just a plain bad @ss out to use his powers for whatever he wants and Scorpion is a psycho schizo that wants to bring down anybody that opposes him...especially Spider-Man. They wouldn't really team up but fight each other instead. We need a good villian vs villian battle.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Lizard and Kraven don't actually have to Team up. The Lizard could be fighting Spidey but when Kraven arrives, the Lizard goes after Kraven. Spidey can try to protect the Lizard but then Spidey and Kraven get in a fight. that would work out really nice.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Mysterio and Scorpion I think work. Both could be out to ruin Spider-Man.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Mysterio and Scorpion I think work. Both could be out to ruin Spider-Man.

Defenitley. They would make a great team. Electro and Vulture would make a great team as well.

 

[Spider-Vader]

S-M 4: Lizard & Kraven (Lizard helps Spidey defeat Kraven)
S-M 6: Vulture & Scorpion. (Venom return as a rival hero to Peter, he's now an anti-hero)
S-M 6: Electro & Carnage. (Venom return)

 

[The Joker]

S-M 4: Lizard & Kraven (Lizard helps Spidey defeat Kraven)
S-M 6: Vulture & Scorpion. (Venom return as a rival hero to Peter, he's now an anti-hero)
S-M 6: Electro & Carnage. (Venom return)

Venom is dead.

Thank goodness.

 

[McVenom]

Venom is dead.

Thank goodness.

no hes not

 

[Visionary]

First I don't see why you have to be insulting with your comments.I haven't insulted anyone who has expressed their like for the movie.

Damn, Mr. Sensitive, lol.

Also I never wanted Venom in the third film.I didn't even want him in the franchise until part 5 or rami left.

Okay, so you're one out of a million who didn't want Venom in SM3, which means the majority was begging for him.

About your comment about clapping after a movie I've seen it many times.Some movies I've seen it after off the top of my head Spider-man 2,Batman Begins and more recently Transformers.

Call me when you see people doing cartwheels naked after a movie, that's when I know people really enjoyed a film.

Also I said it would Disappoint me if the Kraven/Lizard combo wasn't used.I didn't say it would be disappointing to everyone as that's up to their leisure.I loved The first two films but felt the third one lacked the quality of the first two.That's my opinion if you enjoyed the film that's great, But don't insult mine.

Uh oh, someone sounds like they're about to cry again, as I'm schooled about other people's opinions. Maybe if I clap for you, you can keep your dignity. And with all of Spidey's various villains, don't hold your breath on them picking out the very two you want.

 

[Kent]

Most "team-ups" (not necessarily real team-ups as much as two villains in one movie) can be made to work, as long as the "team-up" makes sense.

For instance, I don't know how long it went on, but I remember that for a while Rhino's main goal in the comics was to get money so he could pay for the expensive illegal surgery that would get him out of the Rhino-suit and allow him to live as a normal human being again. If you match that up with a villain that's supposed to have some knowledge of tech and whatnot... say... Vulture (as I remember it Adrian Toomes was the engineer who invented the flying harness he uses)... you can have said villain promising to help Rhino get out of the suit (through his knowledge of tech and whatnot), as long as Rhino helps him reach whatever goal it is he has.
If you add that said character (in my example it's Vulture, but there are other tech-savvy villains in the Spidey-verse... like the Terrible Tinkerer) is actually lying about his ability to help, it would make for some good conflict later in the movie.

Plus, a Rhino and Vulture team-up would make sense because Vulture can get at Spidey when he's in the air, and if he lands then Rhino will be right at him.

Another "team-up" that could work is Smythe's Spider-Slayer robots in combination with the Scorpion. Both are specifically created with killing Spidey in mind, and so would have the same basis for existing (in the comics I think it's Jameson that's ultimately responsible, but that might be a bit too dark of a turn for him in the movies).

Of course Kraven/Lizard has already been mentioned, and it's sort of obvious how that would work.

I really wanna see Rhino though. Just the idea of seeing him on a rampage... chucking cars and whatnot around, running through walls, and just causing mayhem while Spidey is desperately trying to stop him and save the people that get in the way... it makes me salivate.

 

[Spiderine]

So, you judge a movie based on box office numbers, and not the actual quality of the movie?

No I don't actually, the movie studios and those who create these films do. And 800 million plus and counting tells them that Venom and Sandman worked That was my point.

 

[Spiderine]

You see this the thing with box office.That money represents people who went to see the movie not the people who left the movie happy or thinking it was great.In my theater after the movie ended the audience didn't even clap.But those people's money is still represented in that total.Get my point?

Yes I see your point. That is the nature of the business. A movie that does not pull in the numbers is deemed a failure plain and simple. We can rant and rave about SM3 from here to eternity. Bad story,bad villains, and all the other problems us fanboys come up with. It is all our opinions and nothing more. Profit margin is all the big studios look at and that is reality. Green Goblin didn't do it alone, Doc ock didn't do it alone. Venom and Sandman together pulled off the unthinkable. Approaching 900 million worldwide. That is the point.

 

[McVenom]

S-M 4: Lizard & Kraven (Lizard helps Spidey defeat Kraven)
S-M 6: Vulture & Scorpion. (Venom return as a rival hero to Peter, he's now an anti-hero)
S-M 6: Electro & Carnage. (Venom return)

nice