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Action-Adventure TENET

Thanks for the heads up @Blade Hoarder, I will probably skip this then. I'll likely watch it someday inevitably, but I'm just not in the mood for Inception on steroids. Shame, that prologue is DAMN good.


The film is amazing. Watch it if you can. Some of the best visuals i've ever seen in an action film. Worth it just for that.

Then comes an excellent story, acting and Ludwig's bass-y score.
 
Thanks for the heads up @Blade Hoarder, I will probably skip this then. I'll likely watch it someday inevitably, but I'm just not in the mood for Inception on steroids. Shame, that prologue is DAMN good.

There's nothing wrong with not being in the mood for a certain type of movie, but I'd give it a chance someday with an open mind. Only way to really see how you feel about a movie is see for yourself and make up your own mind. It's all subjective.

Also, I think Blade's statements are a bit hyperbolic here. I'd argue this movie would still be extremely enjoyable with the dialogue muted and just the visuals and music telling the story. The movie delivers on that visceral experience of the prologue, even if it gets pretty demanding on the plot side of things. If you were able to enjoy the prologue without understanding every beat of what's happening and why, there's no reason you can't enjoy the film and go on the ride. And the movie eventually does reveal its hand and give you that "aha" moment. There is definitely a way to watch this movie and be entertained AF without worrying in real-time if you've caught every detail. That's what subsequent viewings are for.
 
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Inception is my #1 Nolan movie along with The Dark Knight, so does that mean I would or wouldn’t like Tenet?
 
Inception is my favorite Nolan movie and I'm really meh about Tenet. Almost like Tenet is Inception done wrong.

I agree that Tenet is worth a watch. Regardless of what movies of Nolan you liked or disliked.
 
And no effort is made to make the exposition seem good. It’s just witless, wall to wall jargon. Like a boring lecture being aired through Zoom with a crappy sound setup. Can’t blame people for checking out. It’s anti-cinema.
And yet it’s funnier than any of Nolan’s other sci-fi movies or straight crime films.

I think the exposition in Inception & Interstellar is worse because once you’ve seen those movies one time, the exposition becomes useless on the next viewing. Because it’s not that complicated. With Tenet, after two viewings I’m still on my toes so the exposition is more useful to me. It’s helping me learn. And like I said, the humour in this movie connected with me more. I may have smiled from some lines in Nolan’s past sci-fi films but Tenet got a few big laugh out loudsies from yours truly.

It all depends on what you’re looking for. I suggest to people here who haven’t seen it, to not ask us or ANYONE if they should watch it. Our opinion doesn’t matter. Only your opinion matters. Stop looking for ppl to hold your hand folks. Think for yourself. If you want to see it because the director, the cast or the trailer/prologue intrigued you...go see it. And THEN tell us how you felt, positive or negative. I still have no idea what the Rotten Tomatoes score is for this movie.
 
I want to give a shoutout to the actor who had a few scenes with Rob and JDW. Very natural (the vegan joke). Good casting by Nolan.

Inception has Elliot Page and JGL kissing. So Inception >>>> Tenet.
I don’t find them good looking so that scene does nothing for me lol.
 
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Watching the prologue again got me really hyped to watch the full movie again.

There's this little moment I missed, the first moment we meet JDW's character. "Wake up the Americans." And then you see that he's obviously not been sleeping at all. The look he JDW gives the guy is great. Immediate piece of character building. There's also this shot that pans from the rear view mirror POV of the Russian Forces van arriving to the van. Nicely foreshadowing a significant moment later in the film.

I'm betting this film is chock-full of little details like that. It's the little things, man.
 
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And no effort is made to make the exposition seem good. It’s just witless, wall to wall jargon. Like a boring lecture being aired through Zoom with a crappy sound setup. Can’t blame people for checking out. It’s anti-cinema.


I watched the prologue




I think you summed it up perfectly. The dialogue sounds so cold. I have to rewind it a couple of times to fully grasp what they're saying and I'm a native English speaker too.

It's like the dialogue is trying be a snob to those that can't keep up.




-You’ve been made. This siege is a blind so they can vanish you.

-But I established contact.



Later

Swap clothes! Ukrainians are expecting a passenger. I’ve never seen a encapsulation like this.

We don’t know how old it is but it’s the real deal.



Maybe there should have been a more familiar verb to use? I don't see many people talking like this everyday.
 
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Maybe there should have been a more familiar verb to use? I don't see many people talking like this everyday.

Here's the thing though. These aren't every day people. These are high level secret agents. It's not uncommon for people in specialized professions to talk a bit jargon-y and use shorthand in movies. It adds a level of authenticity, or at least a feeling of authenticity.

"You’ve been made. This siege is a blind so they can vanish you."

Now I didn't catch the world "blind" there either the first time either, but I caught the rest of it. So I was at least able to understand the gist of what's happening. The siege is a front for the bad guys who have an ulterior motive here, having to do with this guy. Done.

It's also not like me mishearing dialogue in films is a Christopher Nolan-exclusive problem. Maybe my hearing sucks, but I'm constantly rewinding stuff to try and hear dialogue all the time. Sometimes actors just throw away lines and it's a stylistic choice.
 
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It's not just that the dialogue has been coded for this spy realm, it comes out so jagged that it almost sounds like jibberish.

Even in the YouTube format, the sound and dialogue are mixed horribly. Unforgivable.
 
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It's not just that the dialogue has been coded for this spy realm, it comes out so jagged that it almost sounds like jibberish.

Even in the YouTube format, the sound and dialogue is mixed horribly. Unforgivable.

Eh, it sounded fine on my speakers. The music definitely dips for the dialogue parts. It's just the decision to keep the voices sounding muffled because of the masks, probably from actual recorded takes on the day.

Personally I prefer that sense of realism to the obvious overdubs of Bane that they made super loud in the TDKR prologue when they changed it to pacify the whiners. That took me more out of the movie than missing a couple of words in the Tenet prologue.
 
Eh, it sounded fine on my speakers. The music definitely dips for the dialogue parts. It's just the decision to keep the voices sounding muffled because of the masks, probably from actual recorded takes on the day.

Personally I prefer that sense of realism to the obvious overdubs of Bane that they made super loud in the TDKR prologue when they changed it to pacify the whiners. That took me more out of the movie than missing a couple of words in the Tenet prologue.


Now that you mention it. Yes. It sounded like his voice was not coming from his body


Bane : Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane

It bounced back and forth between live audio and obvious in studio redubbing.
 
Also, why is one of the soldiers trying to stop him saying "Walk away. You don't have to kill these people."

I can respect trying to build a sense of authentic realism, but I just didn't get that here. The immersion was bad. For one thing, you have The Protagonist and the embedded agent hiding in the crowd of the civilians. They are dodging gunfire. All that gunfire is somehow just bouncing off the seats and not hitting any of the civilians. It's very jarring and weird. How are no civilians getting hit by all that stray gunfire? How is it just managing to miss them and just hitting the empty seats? IMHO that doesn't feel realistic.

And yes, I'm aware Neil was likely the guy who helps Protagonist in this scene before Protagonist had met him at this point.
 

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