Terminator: Genisys - Part 8

[TeeKay]

It's a fully exposed skeleton arm. Can it really grow back in its entirety?

Because reasons. Next time it will be regrowing limbs at will.

Im more sad we have to ask that question.

 

[Jay Beezy]

The T-800 couldn't get to those wounds himself as they were on his back, that's why he needed help with treatment, Pops could easily access his arm to fix it.

You seem to be acknowledging my point that he needed treatment.

 

[TeeKay]

That doesn't answer the question.

I can't believe there's people actually defending some aspects of this film. Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion but illogical and nonsensical things like the T-800 regrowing human flesh shouldn't be debated. It If as stupid and happened because the script said so. I could understand it if it was post being dipped in liquid metal but that was way prior. And also Taylor can go screw himself after that scene where the T-800 has now T-1000 capabilities.

 

[Jay Beezy]

I can't believe there's people actually defending some aspects of this film. Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion but illogical and nonsensical things like the T-800 regrowing human flesh shouldn't be debated. It If as stupid and happened because the script said so. I could understand it if it was post being dipped in liquid metal but that was way prior. And also Taylor can go screw himself after that scene where the T-800 has now T-1000 capabilities.

Healing isn't necessarily the same as regrowing.

If an actual human had the entirety of his flesh ripped from his hand and forearm, would it really regrow back if he wasn't already dead?

 

[TeeKay]

Healing isn't necessarily the same as regrowing.

If an actual human had the entirety of his flesh ripped from his hand and forearm, would it really regrow back if he wasn't already dead?

Good question. That was the least of the movies problems though but it's defibately a headscratcher even within the rules set in this universe.

 

[dark_b]

like when the T-1000 stands pat as a mirror in front of Kyle Reese rather than killing him.

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this is normal for a modern action movie IMO. how about the Throwinator in terminator salvation? a machine made for killing is throwing a human around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbtrnvagPqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLPMGLsf1c0

 

[jonathancrane]

I am happy I skipped the film.

I loved Red Letter Media's Science Man's dissection of the timeline.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

You seem to be acknowledging my point that he needed treatment.

I never contested that, he needed help with the treatment because he couldn't have reached those wounds on his own, Pops could, and he had knowledge of futuristic tech.

 

[Jay Beezy]

I never contested that, he needed help with the treatment because he couldn't have reached those wounds on his own, Pops could, and he had knowledge of futuristic tech.

Whether he could reach it on his own is irrelevant. He needed treatment on it. His flesh isn't superhuman that he can regrow it on an entire hand and forearm.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Whether he could reach it on his own is irrelevant to what I'm trying to say.

The gunshot wounds were ones that could heal *after* he got the necessary treatment. That would suggest that he cannot grow out flesh on an entire hand and forearm after it had been melted off from hydrochloric acid.

It wasn't mentioned in T2 if they needed treatment or not, he was asked if they would heal, he said yes. The treatment wasn't mentioned. Again, Pops had 33 to grow his arm back and had detailed files on the human anatomy and was able to build futuristic tech from scratch. 33 years is a lllloooooonnnngggg time.

And why did you change your post?

 

[Jay Beezy]

It wasn't mentioned in T2 if they needed treatment or not, he was asked if they would heal, he said yes. The treatment wasn't mentioned. Again, Pops had 33 to grow his arm back and had detailed files on the human anatomy and was able to build futuristic tech from scratch. 33 years is a lllloooooonnnngggg time.

And why did you change your post?

He. Had. Bandages. On. His. Wounds.

Maybe they didn't feel the need to explicitly mention that he needed treatment. Maybe the bandages speak for themselves.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I can't believe there's people actually defending some aspects of this film. Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion but illogical and nonsensical things like the T-800 regrowing human flesh shouldn't be debated. It If as stupid and happened because the script said so. I could understand it if it was post being dipped in liquid metal but that was way prior. And also Taylor can go screw himself after that scene where the T-800 has now T-1000 capabilities.

Now you know how we feel when we DARE criticise something in the MCU and the rabid fanboys defend it like its a loving family member we have kicked . And before you go into defensive mode, no I don't think Genisys is better than any of the MCU movies.

I agree about the T-800 getting T-1000 capabilities though, that was a poor choice.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He. Had. Bandages. On. His. Wounds.

Maybe they didn't feel the need to explicitly mention that he needed treatment. Maybe the bandages speak for themselves.

I. Know. He. Had. Bandages. On. His. Wounds. I have watched T2 over a hundred times and T1 even more. The dressings were not mentioned as part of the healing. The T800 didn't say say they would heal because of the treatment, he just said they would heal.

In the DC when they take part of his head off he doesn't get any bandages there and guess what? It heals.

 

[jonathancrane]

I cannot say the poor quality of the story is a surprise, as Patrick Lussier's writing filmography is marked with DTV movies. Having said that, he edited some of my all-time favorite films, so, I do not want to paint a bad image of him.

 

[doobie]

For me, this was the sequel I'd been dreaming for. Seeing the time machine...Seeing a real John not played by a junkie or Christian Fail...Back to the 80s...Kyle living...Old Arnie fighting young Arnie..perfect. Best Terminator sequel ever.

Except for the parts where Connor became a Terminator. That sucked. I decided to myself that he wasn't Connor, just a terminator modelled on Connor. If there was any dialogue that said he was really Connor, I just put my fingers in my ears.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

So is Skynet really a [blackout]a social media app gone rogue[/blackout] in this movie? That seems to kind of miss the point about Skynet and what it's supposed to represent, and what the first two Terminator movies were all about. They weren't anti-technology movies. They were anti-WAR movies. It was about how human beings themselves become so dehumanized and detached that they started to place important life and death decisions in the hands of machines and pay the ultimate price for it. This is a theme that is even more relevant today than it's ever been, even though it's not the Cold War anymore.

 

[Vaibow]

I. Know. He. Had. Bandages. On. His. Wounds. I have watched T2 over a hundred times and T1 even more. The dressings were not mentioned as part of the healing. The T800 didn't say say they would heal because of the treatment, he just said they would heal.

In the DC when they take part of his head off he doesn't get any bandages there and guess what? It heals.

It's simple, as it heals it needs to be kept clean to avoid further complications.

It does not state exactly how the flesh heals, therefor we have no idea and therefor we have license to wonder

 

[DA_Champion]

If Pops can build a time machine he can probably grow a new arm.

 

[Jay Beezy]

I. Know. He. Had. Bandages. On. His. Wounds. I have watched T2 over a hundred times and T1 even more. The dressings were not mentioned as part of the healing. The T800 didn't say say they would heal because of the treatment, he just said they would heal.

In the DC when they take part of his head off he doesn't get any bandages there and guess what? It heals.

They could have stitched it and we wouldn't have necessarily seen it.

 

[Mr.T]

If Pops can build a time machine he can probably grow a new arm.

Maybe Pops hacked off the arm of the "dead" t-800 and attached it to his own body? The tissue is probably from the same vat of goo Skynet uses on all its models. Of course later on his hand started twitching while loading clips, so who knows?

 

[DA_Champion]

Maybe Pops hacked off the arm of the "dead" t-800 and attached it to his own body? The tissue is probably from the same vat of goo Skynet uses on all its models. Of course later on his hand started twitching while loading clips, so who knows?

Nope, the dead t-800 lost all of his flesh from the liquid acid.

 

[Mr.T]

Nope, the dead t-800 lost all of his flesh from the liquid acid.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I was thinking it was the t1000 that just hit the acid bath.

 

[Dave McFly]

Yep, it doesn't accord with the healing abilities on display in T1 and T2. In T1, when the Terminator suffered injuries to his biological elements, it was clear that it could not heal that extensively. Rather, as commented on by its neighbour in the motel, the flesh was decaying and rotting and gave off a horrible stench. Its healing capabilities were largely similar to that of a normal human being, ie. gunshot wounds closing and healing after appropriate medical treatment, but not able to grow back missing or seriously injuried body parts.

well in the novelization of the movie which was based on the script there is a micro pump to the left or right of the endo's spine that pumps the blood keeping the skin healthy and alive, so during the shoot out at the police station that pump got damaged by a bullet hit, thus damaging it, and thus the blood was not pumping anymore and that was why the skin was dying and he looked more pale. but as for the skin growing back over the exposed arm, that I do not know lol.

 

[Majik1387]

So I was honestly expecting this movie to be complete crap, but I was pleasantly surprised to actually really enjoy it. I think my only real negatives were a miscast John Connor and that Matt Smith was cast in a waste of a role.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If Pops can build a time machine he can probably grow a new arm.

Exactly, and he had 33 years to do it.

They could have stitched it and we wouldn't have necessarily seen it.

Now you arethe one just speculating t: