Terrorism attack averted in Toronto Canada

Tangled Web said:
Does that mean that the terrorists are going to attack Australia next? They were successful in the US, UK, and Spain. Are they going to try something in Canada again?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/16/1079199194943.html

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=16103

You'll find this quote in the link

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/06/06/1669876.htm

"In November, Australian authorities arrested 18 local men who had created a makeshift jihad camp and were allegedly plotting an attack on a nuclear reactor."
 
Tangled Web said:
Why don't they go after France? :confused:

Too easy of a target. France is consistently in surrender mode.
 
War Lord said:
A civilian court cannot adequately deal with terrorists because if you have even a few dozen trials, the normal procedural delays would guarentee that the whole court system would be bogged down.

A military court is the only real place to deal with this.

rigghtttttt.

so when they get evidence that you are a terrorist(yes, i know, you aint, we are assuming its unaccurate evidence), and nick you when you are buying your fertilizer at home depot, or B&Q, you wont want to be tried by a jury of your peers, you would be happy be tried by a military tribunal behind closed doors?
 
tomahawk53 said:
The reason:
Canada is not a Muslim nation.

Really? Then what about all those MUSLIM nations like Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and Saudi Arabia that have repeatedly suffered terrorist bombings even at sacred places like mosques and weddings in which the majority (if not the entirety) of casualties were MUSLIMS?
 
It's interesting to note that the average age of the terrorists seems to be about 25. With only 1 30 year old and 1 43 year old in the bunch.
 
This doesn't jive too well for the pacifists on this baord who claim "we deserve what we get" or who try to formulate the justification al qaeda had for hitting us on 9/11, does it. What did Canada do to deserve this?
 
Toronto Star said:
There may indeed have been a terrorist conspiracy that involved what the RCMP assistant commissioner Mike McDonell yesterday referred to as "training areas," where militants tramped about in big boots, cooked on outdoor barbecues, built bombs and used a wooden door for target practice.

That's the implication from the evidence shown to reporters yesterday: five pairs of boots in camouflage drab, six flashlights, one set of walkie-talkies, one voltmeter, one knife, eight D-cell batteries, a cellphone, a circuit board, a computer hard drive, one barbecue grill, one set of tongs suitable for turning hot dogs, a wooden door with 21 marks on it and a 9-mm handgun.

Or it is possible that the only thing that these bits of evidence prove is that a group of young men went somewhere where they tramped around in big boots, cooked on barbecues, played soldier and generally acted like jerks — which young men are occasionally wont to do.

The three tonnes of ammonium nitrate allegedly purchased was, as McDonell said, three times the amount used in the Oklahoma terror bombing of 1995.

But, as he also said, farmers routinely buy three tonnes of ammonium nitrate "every day." They use it for fertilizer, not bombs.

In short, we don't know much yet about what these men and boys were trying to do. We don't know if this series of arrests, called Operation O-Sage by the Mounties, pre-empted the kind of actions that in the United Kingdom led to last year's bombing of the London subway by otherwise unremarkable young Britons.

That's one possibility. It's certainly the explanation favoured by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who yesterday praised the police.

Another is that this is a reprise of the infamous 2003 Project Thread fiasco, in which RCMP and immigration officials accused 23 Muslims of terrorism only to acknowledge later that at most the men were guilty of minor immigration fraud.

Still another possibility is that this may turn out to be Canada's version of the 2004 Virginia "paintball" trial, in which one man was sentenced to life and another got 85 years.

In that controversial case (even the presiding judge complained the outcome was unfair), nine Muslim men were convicted of participating in terrorist training — the main evidence being that they had played paintball in the woods outside Washington.

What we do know about Operation O-Sage is that the RCMP, as well as the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, have been tracking the suspects since 2004. We also know that at least some of their neighbours knew police were watching them. Presumably, some of the suspects did, too.

If the alleged conspirators knew they were under surveillance, it seems odd that they continued along merrily with plans to make explosives.

But perhaps they are not bright terrorists. Or perhaps they are not terrorists at all.

With luck, we will get these answers at trial.
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logansoldcigar said:
rigghtttttt.

so when they get evidence that you are a terrorist(yes, i know, you aint, we are assuming its unaccurate evidence), and nick you when you are buying your fertilizer at home depot, or B&Q, you wont want to be tried by a jury of your peers, you would be happy be tried by a military tribunal behind closed doors?

1. CSIS isn't going to investigate somebody buying a 20 kg of fertilizer or whatever the average gardener uses over a growing season. However, if I bought 300 times the amount an average gardener uses, I'd hope the authorities would take interest in my activities.

2. To try them in civil court means that, for them to get a fair trial as defined by most people, it would mean that CSIS risks being brought into court to testify what sources and methods they used detect the terrorist suspects or the prosecution would have to consider dropping charges rather than have CSIS come into court to reveal their methods.

The authorities might as well send a tutorial video to Al Quaeda on how to avoid detection with 100% certainty.
 

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