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The 100 Greatest Quotes from Fundamentalist Christian Chat Rooms

Well, to put it another way, what I meant is that while God's views have never truly changed, mankind has twisted them for its own purpose. Jesus was sent to redeem us all, and part of that meant clarifying what God truly meant by the Law, and which ones no longer applied since the Savior had now been given.

But God's infalliable so none of the old laws shouldn't apply anymore. And the old laws were given to man directly from God, so why do we need another emissary of God to tell us the laws again? What you're saying here means the Old Testament isn't actually the word of God, but man's interpertation of the word of God.
 
i'll tell you what. you continue believing there's evidence, i'll continue dismissing it.
If you want to be an uninformed, ignorant bigot with a knee-jerk aversion to truths that lie outside your own myopic world-view, I can't stop you. *shrug*
 
This is probably one of the best threads I've seen in quite some time.
 
I guess the atheists, agnostics, etc...can have their fun. But, one day, one day Moviefan will be poking you with a pitchfork...MARK MY WORDS.

One day, believer like me will be the majority and we shall all get along.
 
If you want to be an uninformed, ignorant bigot with a knee-jerk aversion to truths that lie outside your own myopic world-view, I can't stop you. *shrug*

hey no fair making fun of my myopia.
 
I guess the atheists, agnostics, etc...can have their fun. But, one day, one day Moviefan will be poking you with a pitchfork...MARK MY WORDS.

One day, believer like me will be the majority and we shall all get along.
i give them a 6.
 
There is a great disturbance in the Force. I felt it as though a Billions lives were there, then gone in an instant.


*Wakes up*

What the *****, another thread about this?
 
Homosexuality is 100% wrong, but it alone will not send a person to hell. Only rejection of Jesus Christ will do that. Telling the boy, in essence, "You'll go to hell unless you're straight" is likely what upset his son the most. Also, what source did this guy cite, saying gays always live shorter lives? It's true that many STDs are spread through homosexual contact, but that's no reason to claim "you'll die early if you're gay".

Finally, the comment about celibacy and ex-gays wasn't good, either. The kid's shrink had probably been fueling his confusion with the whole "okay to be gay" crap, so his father was right to seek other input...but when the kid becomes convinced of it as well, being blunt sounds more like a personal attack, than sincere help. The only way a person can be freed of homosexuality is if he or she truly desires to be freed, and is willing to fight hard for that freedom. Like any other sin, Satan won't let go easily. He'll tempt them at every turn, trying to get them back on his side. And that's when they need the love of Christ the most. They won't go to a side that automatically condemns them as a person, when the enemy has already claimed to "love" them. What they need is God's love for them as individuals. They do need to realize God doesn't approve of their choice, but He still loves them anyways...and He will guide them through every problem they face, if they'll simply trust in Him.

I think many of your views are absolutely ridiculous and it's sad that there are so many people like you following this skewed "gay is evil and satanic" view. The events within Gilpesh's quotations are indeed a terrifying story. The boy's death was brought upon by his father and what he told him. It is appalling to say the least. But I don't have much else to say here or to you.

I feel that in tune with Jesus' beliefs, he wouldn't turn away a soul just because they didn't accept him as their savior . . . what if you were a Bhuddist? You follow the same basic ideals and values, but in a different form . . . seems to me that if you do good in life, in your own heart Jesus would want you to kick it with him . . .

If there is a God he would not send good people to hell simply for not believing and/or other beliefs. I believe in a God, and I also believe that Mohandas Gandhi and Christopher Reeve are most certainly not burning.
 
First, he's willing to save us because He loves us that much and more. Secondly, people do things which appear to be good on the outside, but have selfish agendas and motives deep down. God's grace is sufficient, but repentance through Christ is the only way to recieve it.

yeah, but what if my motives are not corrupted? what if I practice the morals of Jesus throughout my everyday activities in a truely selfless manner? If I fail to accept Jesus as my savior (maybe I die unexpectedly), would God really turn me away?

seems like propoganda to 'scare' me into accepting a religion that is very flawed . . . a religion whose roots are engulfed in 2000 years of history, and even then was spread by the word of MAN. MAN, I said, who as you said just a few posts back is an inherently flawed species . . . . so why should I listen to what man has to say about God?

I'd rather see God through my own experiences, and live by the golden rule :)
 
Moviefan2k4 is the reason the Ignore button was invented.
Nothing but an egotistical closed off bigot.
 
^no, no, no . . . he's gonna save us . . . . any minute now :dry:
 
seriously, though . . . if we truly are at war, moviefan2k4 pretty much has to retort every argument proposed in this thread as it's his duty as a soldier of God . . .
 
In this war was really going on, why doesn't Big Bad God just show up and announce this? Is he a masochist who likes to watch his creations fight it to the death? Does he love to watch his followers kill themselves because they homosexuality is wrong (even though, in the new testament it never says such and the New Testament has the new revised rules in it, so which ones are THE rules? the old ones or the NEW ones? Pick one.)
 
In this war was really going on, why doesn't Big Bad God just show up and announce this? Is he a masochist who likes to watch his creations fight it to the death? Does he love to watch his followers kill themselves because they homosexuality is wrong (even though, in the new testament it never says such and the New Testament has the new revised rules in it, so which ones are THE rules? the old ones or the NEW ones? Pick one.)
I personally don't think it's a war between sides. I think it is a war over your soul and what you decide to do with it. Good presents itself but evil(sin) is always tempting. The Bible says there will be a final war between both sides but good, God, will win. So what's the point of the war?
 
Really? There might not even be this "war" if everyone knows god wins thats pointless fighting, but since the Bible has never been proven to be fact, we simply can't trust it. Since god has given no evidence of the soul, sin, or even his existence we can't consider him fact. Also, why would god tell you not to love someone? When a man loves a man its still love, god can't deny that if he does he's just as evil as satan.
 
What do the other human persons here think ?

No doubt someone will object, saying something obviously ridiculous like, but atheists are persons.

But clearly this is mistaken because anybody without a well developed belief in God is obviously not a full human person.

What could be more obvious than that ?

How many full human persons do you know without a well developed belief in God. Obviously none, because if they were full human person they would have a well developed belief in God.

Now some people might object to killing atheists for there (and obviously it is there and not thier as they are not whos but whats ) organs but think of all the full human persons that would benifit from the organs and the medical research that could be done on these non-persons.

How could anybody object, they are not human persons and if you think we should not kill them then that is just because of out dated ideas and because they must really just want people to suffer. For shame on you !

So what do people think ?

Should we kill these atheist human non-persons for the benifit of fully human persons ?

Jason

looks like this human person's been learning from hitler.
 
I don't think we should mix the spiritual world with the physical one. A restraining order might be necessary. Also I don't think this thread is bashing Christians just the fundamentalists. While being Christ-like certainly is a fine quality, "loving your neighbors", "do unto others as they have done unto you", I dont believe that every human needs to be converted into any religion. A muslim can believe in Christ yet still practice his way of religion as long as his heart is good. The bible says that all humans will be judged by their works, not their believes or how many converts they gathered. I think the real message is about attaining happiness through encouraging others not condemning them.
 
I personally don't think it's a war between sides. I think it is a war over your soul and what you decide to do with it. Good presents itself but evil(sin) is always tempting. The Bible says there will be a final war between both sides but good, God, will win. So what's the point of the war?

Money?
 
Really? There might not even be this "war" if everyone knows god wins thats pointless fighting, but since the Bible has never been proven to be fact, we simply can't trust it. Since god has given no evidence of the soul, sin, or even his existence we can't consider him fact. Also, why would god tell you not to love someone? When a man loves a man its still love, god can't deny that if he does he's just as evil as satan.

God denies man nothing. But each man will be judged by his actions, or the consequences there of. Also God created Satan and allows him to act out sting operations.
 
Really? There might not even be this "war" if everyone knows god wins thats pointless fighting, but since the Bible has never been proven to be fact, we simply can't trust it. Since god has given no evidence of the soul, sin, or even his existence we can't consider him fact. Also, why would god tell you not to love someone? When a man loves a man its still love, god can't deny that if he does he's just as evil as satan.
That is why there would be no point in an epic battle...more than likely another literary device. It would be like me fighting the US Army...I wouldn't win. Sin has to do with morality, society, and what was right/wrong at the time it was written. Now I don't agree with homosexuality but I don't understand the science or choice behind it and should also neither condemn nor judge those individuals...it is their choice. I just like to think of homosexuality as a fluke in biology. Humans as an animal need to reproduce to survive and pass on their genes....so what is the point? However, other aspects of biology, like altruism, may play into the determination of sexual preference.
 

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