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Okay. :Nolte:Not sure, I'll tell you when I'm done laughing.t:
Okay. :Nolte:Not sure, I'll tell you when I'm done laughing.t:
Well, to put it another way, what I meant is that while God's views have never truly changed, mankind has twisted them for its own purpose. Jesus was sent to redeem us all, and part of that meant clarifying what God truly meant by the Law, and which ones no longer applied since the Savior had now been given.
If you want to be an uninformed, ignorant bigot with a knee-jerk aversion to truths that lie outside your own myopic world-view, I can't stop you. *shrug*i'll tell you what. you continue believing there's evidence, i'll continue dismissing it.
If you want to be an uninformed, ignorant bigot with a knee-jerk aversion to truths that lie outside your own myopic world-view, I can't stop you. *shrug*
i give them a 6.I guess the atheists, agnostics, etc...can have their fun. But, one day, one day Moviefan will be poking you with a pitchfork...MARK MY WORDS.
One day, believer like me will be the majority and we shall all get along.
Homosexuality is 100% wrong, but it alone will not send a person to hell. Only rejection of Jesus Christ will do that. Telling the boy, in essence, "You'll go to hell unless you're straight" is likely what upset his son the most. Also, what source did this guy cite, saying gays always live shorter lives? It's true that many STDs are spread through homosexual contact, but that's no reason to claim "you'll die early if you're gay".
Finally, the comment about celibacy and ex-gays wasn't good, either. The kid's shrink had probably been fueling his confusion with the whole "okay to be gay" crap, so his father was right to seek other input...but when the kid becomes convinced of it as well, being blunt sounds more like a personal attack, than sincere help. The only way a person can be freed of homosexuality is if he or she truly desires to be freed, and is willing to fight hard for that freedom. Like any other sin, Satan won't let go easily. He'll tempt them at every turn, trying to get them back on his side. And that's when they need the love of Christ the most. They won't go to a side that automatically condemns them as a person, when the enemy has already claimed to "love" them. What they need is God's love for them as individuals. They do need to realize God doesn't approve of their choice, but He still loves them anyways...and He will guide them through every problem they face, if they'll simply trust in Him.
I feel that in tune with Jesus' beliefs, he wouldn't turn away a soul just because they didn't accept him as their savior . . . what if you were a Bhuddist? You follow the same basic ideals and values, but in a different form . . . seems to me that if you do good in life, in your own heart Jesus would want you to kick it with him . . .
First, he's willing to save us because He loves us that much and more. Secondly, people do things which appear to be good on the outside, but have selfish agendas and motives deep down. God's grace is sufficient, but repentance through Christ is the only way to recieve it.
I personally don't think it's a war between sides. I think it is a war over your soul and what you decide to do with it. Good presents itself but evil(sin) is always tempting. The Bible says there will be a final war between both sides but good, God, will win. So what's the point of the war?In this war was really going on, why doesn't Big Bad God just show up and announce this? Is he a masochist who likes to watch his creations fight it to the death? Does he love to watch his followers kill themselves because they homosexuality is wrong (even though, in the new testament it never says such and the New Testament has the new revised rules in it, so which ones are THE rules? the old ones or the NEW ones? Pick one.)
What do the other human persons here think ?
No doubt someone will object, saying something obviously ridiculous like, but atheists are persons.
But clearly this is mistaken because anybody without a well developed belief in God is obviously not a full human person.
What could be more obvious than that ?
How many full human persons do you know without a well developed belief in God. Obviously none, because if they were full human person they would have a well developed belief in God.
Now some people might object to killing atheists for there (and obviously it is there and not thier as they are not whos but whats ) organs but think of all the full human persons that would benifit from the organs and the medical research that could be done on these non-persons.
How could anybody object, they are not human persons and if you think we should not kill them then that is just because of out dated ideas and because they must really just want people to suffer. For shame on you !
So what do people think ?
Should we kill these atheist human non-persons for the benifit of fully human persons ?
Jason
I personally don't think it's a war between sides. I think it is a war over your soul and what you decide to do with it. Good presents itself but evil(sin) is always tempting. The Bible says there will be a final war between both sides but good, God, will win. So what's the point of the war?
Really? There might not even be this "war" if everyone knows god wins thats pointless fighting, but since the Bible has never been proven to be fact, we simply can't trust it. Since god has given no evidence of the soul, sin, or even his existence we can't consider him fact. Also, why would god tell you not to love someone? When a man loves a man its still love, god can't deny that if he does he's just as evil as satan.
Resources, too.Money?
That is why there would be no point in an epic battle...more than likely another literary device. It would be like me fighting the US Army...I wouldn't win. Sin has to do with morality, society, and what was right/wrong at the time it was written. Now I don't agree with homosexuality but I don't understand the science or choice behind it and should also neither condemn nor judge those individuals...it is their choice. I just like to think of homosexuality as a fluke in biology. Humans as an animal need to reproduce to survive and pass on their genes....so what is the point? However, other aspects of biology, like altruism, may play into the determination of sexual preference.Really? There might not even be this "war" if everyone knows god wins thats pointless fighting, but since the Bible has never been proven to be fact, we simply can't trust it. Since god has given no evidence of the soul, sin, or even his existence we can't consider him fact. Also, why would god tell you not to love someone? When a man loves a man its still love, god can't deny that if he does he's just as evil as satan.