The All New, All Star Batman & Robin Thread!

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

...Miller...

Time to retire !!!

 

[terry78]

I don't know about you, but even if she is hot, sliced tasty booty is not a turn on for me.

 

[silentflute]

...Miller...

Time to retire !!!

But it's so much more fun for him to stay in the game and continuously outwrite and out sell all these other hacks masquerading as writers.

 

[Drz]

I don't see why people are complaining, this is abit realistic take, i mean what would a 16/17 (or even younger?) woman say when shes on some of her very first nights being a vigilante? I mean the F word is so common and kids overuse it all the time.

 

[Batman]

But it's so much more fun for him to stay in the game and continuously outwrite and out sell all these other hacks masquerading as writers.

At one time, I'd heavily disagree.

But ****, DC has really hit a low lately.

 

[CrimsonMist]

But it's so much more fun for him to stay in the game and continuously outwrite and out sell all these other hacks masquerading as writers.

True. But i'd expect a bit more taste and quality from Frank Miller. This guy could blow anyone else out of the water with great writing. And what does he do? Writes sub-par, over the top ridiculousness that sometimes has ties to his other work that only sells because it's Frank Miller. His Daredevil work is more consistent than his Batman work, and the more i read it, the more i believe Elektra: Assassin is his greatest moment ever. There's a major quality change in Elektra: Assassin and Dark Knight compared to DK2 and All-Star Batman.

I was hoping that Holy Terror Batman would finally put an end to over the top Batman, but that's not happening anymore.

I don't see why people are complaining, this is abit realistic take, i mean what would a 16/17 (or even younger?) woman say when shes on some of her very first nights being a vigilante? I mean the F word is so common and kids overuse it all the time.

Who cares? The question is, why use curse words like C*** and F***(ESPECIALLY C***), in a comic that's just gonna be censored anyway? Isn't Miller one of those guys vehemently opposed to censorship in comics? As i said, Miller has shown in the past that there's more than 1 way to show how scummy a villain is without using that kind of language. Also, read those lines with those words in it. It sounds stupid...like kids who try to curse to sound cool, but fail...utterly.

 

[The Guard]

Yeah, because ALL STAR BATMAN & ROBIN hasn't been one giant stunt from the get go...

 

[CaptainClown]

Well I don't know about all of you guys, but I would want a Goddamn Batman series. Not by Miller or Lee but have other writers take on the writing of an over the top ridiculous Batman series.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Over the top Batman isn't my favorite Batman, but I think he has a place.

 

[CaptainClown]

I think it will give a nice diversity to the comics out there.

 

[SHADOWBAT69]

Miller writes garbage ,and if anyone thinks this is cool, they need to seriously look at themselves as human beings. Miller is the shock jock of comics. He does not care about any character, he does what he can to bring them to the lowest possible level and he thinks its funny.

 

[CaptainClown]

Miller writes garbage ,and if anyone thinks this is cool, they need to seriously look at themselves as human beings. Miller is the shock jock of comics. He does not care about any character, he does what he can to bring them to the lowest possible level and he thinks its funny.

I think its funny and cool. I am a terrible human being.

 

[CaptainClown]

woo hoo the uncensored version is on Ebay!

 

[squeekness]

You knew that was just a matter of time.

 

[ironman29758]

I got issue 10 it's really intresting so I'll post the important facts

Spoiler

Batgirl gets arreseted and she says that she is willing to get whatever punishiment she deserves and she is not blaming anybody even batman. Barbara Gordon got drunk and was in the carcrash. Batman and Catwoman meet at the train station which was the first batcave and where Selina and Bruce first met. Black Canary just destroy a drug deal and Captain Gordan calls Sarah at the end just wanted to know how she is doing.

did see the lil Banan/lil Superman issue. The Goshdarned Batman's parents got pushed and he swears no should be bullied again. t:

 

[AgentGraves!]

Do we know if they plan on releasing the issue?

I would like to know because I sure as Hell don't want to shell out 50-75 bucks to read something I have been waiting nearly a year for.

 

[eledoremassis02]

When the news issues being shipped? I just baught 1 for 6.00 with shipping for a small online comic store

 

[Mogwai]

Do we know if they plan on releasing the issue?

I would like to know because I sure as Hell don't want to shell out 50-75 bucks to read something I have been waiting nearly a year for.

yes; in 2 weeks.

 

[ironman29758]

i got one for 2.50 or are you talking about the November issue

 

[K.B.]

True. But i'd expect a bit more taste and quality from Frank Miller. This guy could blow anyone else out of the water with great writing. And what does he do? Writes sub-par, over the top ridiculousness that sometimes has ties to his other work that only sells because it's Frank Miller. His Daredevil work is more consistent than his Batman work, and the more i read it, the more i believe Elektra: Assassin is his greatest moment ever. There's a major quality change in Elektra: Assassin and Dark Knight compared to DK2 and All-Star Batman.

Elektra:Assassin is the BEST thing he has ever done, thats a fact.

Originally Posted by SHADOWBAT69
Miller writes garbage ,and if anyone thinks this is cool, they need to seriously look at themselves as human beings. Miller is the shock jock of comics. He does not care about any character, he does what he can to bring them to the lowest possible level and he thinks its funny.

I wouldn't say he's the shock jock of comics because usually (looking at Howard Stern here) shock jocks have talent and Miller is just a hack. If anything he would be an immitation shock jock

 

[theMan-Bat]

Elektra:Assassin is the BEST thing he has ever done, thats a fact.

No, that's just your opinion.

I wouldn't say he's the shock jock of comics because usually (looking at Howard Stern here) shock jocks have talent and Miller is just a hack. If anything he would be an immitation shock jock

Miller definitively has talent. As to the criticism that it's all "shock value"? What's been so "shocking"? Character's saying "****", "*****", "dickwad", "ass", "*******s", "goddamn" and "hell"? Gasp. You'd never hear that kind of language on television, on film, and on the streets, huh. Vicki Vale not wearing much? Gee, never seen anything like that before on comic book covers by Adam Hughes, huh. Batman acting like a Drill Sargent? That's nothing new. Gordon having a daughter named Barbara who is secretly Batgirl? Wow. Shocker. Batman having a butler named Alfred? Wow, didn't see that one coming.
Superman and Wonder Woman kissing?

Gee, never seen that before.

Joker, gasp, killing somebody?
Miller isn't out to shock us, just to simply entertain us, and remind us of the good old days when Barbara Gordon could walk and was Batgirl and Dick Grayson was Robin the Boy Wonder and Hal Jordan wore the original costume by Gill Kane and Superman wasn't married and didn't fly, he simply ran "faster than a locomotive." Back to a time when comics were simply fun, not character shattering "major events" like "R.I.P.", is Batman gonna die? Is Damian really Batman's kid? And who's gonna get ****** up this time in the next mega event?

 

[theMan-Bat]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17985

I have no problem with characters cursing in comics. I have a problem with DC censoring it. I'm an opposer of censorship in any form. They didn't censor the cursing in Batman: The Dark Knight Returns or DK2.

 

[Name Changed]

Character's saying "****", "****", "dickwad", "****", "*******", "goddamn" and "hell"? Gasp. You'd never hear that kind of language on television, on film, and on the streets, huh.

Just because it's been in other places doesn't mean it belongs in a Batman comic.

The character's existed for close to 70 years, and Miller's the only one who's thought to include words like that being frequently used in the material, and so randomly in nature. Don't tell me that's to be expected for general fans of the character.

Vicki Vale not wearing much? Gee, never seen anything like that before on comic book covers by Adam Hughes, huh.

Uh... yeah. She's a reporter. Not a freaking Amazon.

Batman acting like a Drill Sargent? That's nothing new.

Of course it isn't. Because Miller invented it.

I'd dare say that's one of the reasons DKR has always been such an indifferent piece of work over alot of Batman fans. It's not the Batman they know. Just like this sure as hell isn't the Batman I know.

Miller isn't out to shock us, just to simply entertain us, and remind us of the good old days when Barbara Gordon could walk and was Batgirl and Dick Grayson was Robin the Boy Wonder and Hal Jordan wore the original costume by Gill Kane and Superman wasn't married and couldn't fly, he simply ran "faster than a locomotive."

Oh, for god's sakes. When, in those days, did Batgirl go rolling around on a skateboard proclaiming 'This here arcade is teh mine!!11 I'm the ****ING BATGIRL!!!11111'?

Miller isn't out to shock us or entertain us. He's out to do both, and trying way too hard.

Back to a time when comics were simply fun, not character shattering "major events" like "R.I.P.", is Batman gonna die? Is Damian really Batman's kid? And who's gonna get ****** up this time in the next mega event?

Then why can't he just tell a story with a competent Batman that doesn't sound like a twelve year old on steriods who's overexposed to action movies and drinks alot of caffeine? Why does it have to be 'The goddamn Batman'? Why can't it just ****ing be Batman?

 

[theMan-Bat]

Just because it's been in other places doesn't mean it belongs in a Batman comic.

The character's existed for close to 70 years, and Miller's the only one who's thought to include words like that being frequently used in the material, and so randomly in nature. Don't tell me that's to be expected for general fans of the character.

There are a number of inoffensive, safe, *****fied Batman titles for them if All-Star Batman and Robin disgusts anyone.

Uh... yeah. She's a reporter. Not a freaking Amazon.

Uh..yeah. She's a reporter...off work in her own apartment. People do walk around in their own apartments in their underwear alone at night.

Of course it isn't. Because Miller invented it.

I'd dare say that's one of the reasons DKR has always been such an indifferent piece of work over alot of Batman fans. It's not the Batman they know. Just like this sure as hell isn't the Batman I know.

It sure as hell is the Batman I know.

Oh, for god's sakes. When, in those days, did Batgirl go rolling around on a skateboard proclaiming 'This here arcade is teh mine!!11 I'm the ****ING BATGIRL!!!11111'?

This is the modern version of the young upbeat walking, running and jumping Batgirl updated for contemporary times. Teens today go rolling around on skateboards. This Batgirl is much more fun than the grim permanently paralyzed Barbara Gordon.

Miller isn't out to shock us or entertain us. He's out to do both, and trying way too hard.

Miller's not shocking me at all, but he is entertaining me.

Then why can't he just tell a story with a competent Batman that doesn't sound like a twelve year old on steriods who's overexposed to action movies and drinks alot of caffeine? Why does it have to be 'The goddamn Batman'? Why can't it just ****ing be Batman?

Again, there are a number of inoffensive, safe, *****fied Batman titles for you if All-Star Batman and Robin disgusts you.

 

[CaptainClown]

Ya seriously, you all don't have to read it. I rather enjoy it. He is the batman I want to be for Halloween. I want to hit peoples cups out of their hands and scream "I CAN DO IT CAUSE I AM THE GOD DAMN BATMAN!"