The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Visualiza]

Goldfinger is still my favorite quintessential Bond movie. It's full of iconic moments and characters; Goldfinger, Oddjob, ***** Galore, Q becoming a fully fledged character, the Aston Martin DB5, the laser sequence; "Do you expect me to talk - No Mr Bond I expect you to die", the girl dead on Bond's bed pained head to foot in gold, the Fort Knox assault etc.

Classic. Connery was the man.

A+

Sorry to keep derailing this with Bond talk, but damn am I ever getting the nostalgia fever right now.

 

[Sevprince]

This weekend, the sequel attracted more men than women, as 61% of the crowd was male. The movie played well with a young audience, too: Roughly 51% of those who saw the movie were under the age of 25.

“It certainly has the potential to exceed the first film’s gross domestically,” said Rory Bruer, Sony’s distribution president. “We’re heading into another weekend which is wide open, so we have incredible play time. There’s something very sticky about this movie, but we’ll need another weekend to see how it shakes out.”

http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...rman-2-20140504,0,3511804.story#ixzz30nVbJ1LB

I think that neighbors will hurt this movie. It might steal its male audience and its getting good reviews.

 

[jmc]

No, they are RUSHING into the future. A long term plan would involve slowly growing the universe over the course of many films.

But that's the problem, there is no universe outside of Spider-Man. You can't treat the series like a TV show whereby plot elements are stretched out over 2-3 films, people want completed stories.

 

[Heretic]

But that's the problem, there is no universe outside of Spider-Man. You can't treat the series like a TV show whereby plot elements are stretched out over 2-3 films, people want completed stories.

And that is okay. You don't have to keep upping the ante with more and more villains each time. You just have to make good movies...AND...as we've seen with Marvel...if people feel like each part is actually a part of a larger whole, then they maintain their excitement. This is why you plan things out...so that minor characters in one film can become major characters in future films.

 

[mclay18]

Webb and the writers should share majority of the blame for what went wrong with this movie, I am not a fan of Arad but blaming him seems the cool thing to do in these forums for some reason

The producer(s) are ultimately the one to make story 'suggestions' and sign off on script changes when the director and writers ask for it. I don't see the need to blame Webb, since his directing was pretty good. It was the incredibly stupid dialogue and story forced onto him, thanks to Arad's decision making and the subpar writers.

I do blame the writers as well, but Arad deserves the lion's share for making these creative decisions. I would've liked to see Webb's true vision for Spider-Man, without Arad, and I have a feeling it would be something to see. The ending for TASM2 hints at a MUCH better film.

 

[Mr. Dent]

“It certainly has the potential to exceed the first film’s gross domestically,” said Rory Bruer, Sony’s distribution president. “We’re heading into another weekend which is wide open, so we have incredible play time. There’s something very sticky about this movie, but we’ll need another weekend to see how it shakes out.”

lol no it doesn't. Toeing dat company line.

 

[daddydivine]

lol no it doesn't. Toeing dat company line.

But he is right this movie is sticky. What other summer blockbuster are people going to see on the weekend? Plus it might not be a great film but it's a fun movie. If Godzilla opened next weekend this movie would be dead in the water but as of now it could definitely make lots of many.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

lol no it doesn't. Toeing dat company line.

Maybe it was a typo. He actually said the movie is stinky.

 

[Iceman]

I don't know if this new line of Spider-man films is going to make the kind of money the old ones did in US. Overseas market is ever expanding though.

 

[Eddie]

which means that it has recuperated its budget but it is quite clear that spidey's popularity has dropped drastically and i'm going to say it is entirely due to the fact that he's not part of mcu.

Umm... no, no it has not. Theaters get a cut too, after all. The movie very likely isn't halfway to recuperating its budget.

Anyway, I didn't do my opening weekend BO prediction until very near the release, but I was pretty accurate. My prediction was +/- $3 million of Cap's opening. Having finally seen it, I have a feeling that this won't have great legs. Parts of the movie were absolutely amazing. Some of the best Spidey film moments are in this film. However, some of the worst scenes in any Spidey film, 3 included, also showed up. Electro is easily the worst villain in any of the Spidey films. Jamie Foxx's performance was laughably bad, mostly due to poor writing and worse adaptation of anything resembling any comic version of Electro. Another person I went with thought the movie was decent, but wouldn't be worth seeing again (and I'm talking months from now on DVD).
I was surprised at how few parents seemed to be dragged to the film by their kids at my screening. Usually I see plenty of families that seem to be at the movie because their kids wanted to go. Don't get me wrong, families with kids were there. The thing is, the parents seemed to be the ones dragging the kids to the movie. One kid was clearly having a good time, but the movie didn't seem to excite the younger crowd very much. It was odd having more excited young children at Captain America: The Political Thriller With Robert Redford In It than at a Spider-Man movie.
Ultimately, I have to imagine Sony will rethink this franchise if they want to keep it. Parts of the movie were so good. MCU/Nolan good! But parts were, I'm just gonna say it, embarrassing. And those parts were Electro and Rhino/Sinister Six setup in general. After a brief explanation of what Sony is doing with this whole Sinister Six thing, nobody in my group was excited for any movie prominently featuring Paul Giamatti's Rhino. Sony needs to look at these BO numbers and what the audience isn't responding to and drastically rethink their plans. After taking in the film myself and seeing the opening domestic numbers, I can't imagine this movie will hit $800 million unless it overperforms overseas.

 

[Eddie]

Maybe it was a typo. He actually said the movie is stinky.

One of the alternate definitions of "sticky", according to Merriam-Webster, is disagreeable, unpleasant.

 

[Tymminator]

The MCU is offering movie goers something fresh and new and never been done before. An entire universe of characters that are in continuity with each other. Thats a major factor in their success and it started with Robert Downey's take on Stark. Fans loved it. They now had a foundation.

Nolan gave us back the Batman we lost years ago. And fans couldn't wait to see the Joker again and it delivered.

What has everyone else offered in terms of something fresh and original? Something audiences were wanting to see again? Even Xmen has declined. I think DOFP can do well but Xmen not giving u a billion dollar movie.

Sony is more interested in a Spideyverse. Its obvious. WB will try to sell us a rushed JL movie in a Superman sequel. And I have my doubts. FF has failure written on it. Call it what u want, but audiences are responding in declining numbers for these other films.

Yup.

 

[Mr. Dent]

But he is right this movie is sticky. What other summer blockbuster are people going to see on the weekend? Plus it might not be a great film but it's a fun movie. If Godzilla opened next weekend this movie would be dead in the water but as of now it could definitely make lots of many.

Even if it does relatively well next week (like a 56% drop which is the best it can hope for imo) it still would have no chance of outgrossing the original.

The MCU is offering movie goers something fresh and new and never been done before. An entire universe of characters that are in continuity with each other. Thats a major factor in their success and it started with Robert Downey's take on Stark. Fans loved it. They now had a foundation.

Nolan gave us back the Batman we lost years ago. And fans couldn't wait to see the Joker again and it delivered.

What has everyone else offered in terms of something fresh and original? Something audiences were wanting to see again? Even Xmen has declined. I think DOFP can do well but Xmen not giving u a billion dollar movie.

Sony is more interested in a Spideyverse. Its obvious. WB will try to sell us a rushed JL movie in a Superman sequel. And I have my doubts. FF has failure written on it. Call it what u want, but audiences are responding in declining numbers for these other films.

I mostly agree with your post other than this. Batman vs. Superman is not the Justice League movie, it just sets it up.

 

[terry78]

Not it matters, but I assume this warrants a sequel.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If Winter Soldier with good word of mouth dropped 56% I'd be surprised if TASM 2 dropped less than 60%.

 

[Wildcard]

Okay, I'll be the first to admit it...my predictions were way off. And keep in mind I haven't seen the movie yet, have just been trying to keep a positive spin on things (no pun intended).

But yeah, this doesn't bode well. Cap opened higher than Spidey, who is already established, and that definitely isn't a good sign. I don't think the problem is the fact that it was rebooted or that people are tired of Spider-Man...they just want to see new things on screen.

Honestly, I still see this movie doing well enough for a third outing but the third movie needs to deliver completely. Otherwise, I think the webslinger will be taking a (probably) much needed break.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

There is no "if" about it, a sequel will be made because it will make enough to garner one because of the overseas numbers. And if one loved the film then they don't have anything to worry about on that front.

 

[Wildcard]

There is no "if" about it, a sequel will be made because it will make enough to garner one because of the overseas numbers. And if one loved the film then they don't have anything to worry about on that front.

I know they'll make another sequel, I haven't ever disputed that. But I also know that when that third movie comes around if the numbers get lower as they have from SM-3 to TASM to TASM 2 then Spidey will likely be gone for a while.

 

[NJCaliboi]

What are the stipulations of Sony contract with their rights to Spiderman? People are saying if things don't go well on the 3rd installment it might be wise to shelf him for a while, but doesn't Sony have to produce a Spiderman film ever so often to keep their rights? If thats the case then don't ever expect to go too long w.out seeing the web-slinger.

 

[Wildcard]

What are the stipulations of Sony contract with their rights to Spiderman? People are saying if things don't go well on the 3rd installment it might be wise to shelf him for a while, but doesn't Sony have to produce a Spiderman film ever so often to keep their rights? If thats the case then don't ever expect to go too long w.out seeing the web-slinger.

Well, with that being said they have two options:

1. Make better films

OR

2. Keep wasting money just to hold on to the rights

Speaking from a business perspective, if the third one's numbers fell lower than this one, I'd be inclined to believe they'd go with option two.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I know they'll make another sequel, I haven't ever disputed that. But I also know that when that third movie comes around if the numbers get lower as they have from SM-3 to TASM to TASM 2 then Spidey will likely be gone for a while.

Unless they find a way to cut the budget Spidey will be going back to Marvel soon. They spent 255mil on this new one after spending 230mil on the first film along with the 100-200mil they spent to market these films. The films aren't performing well enough to sustain that kind of spending. Something's gotta give eventually.

 

[Liam_H]

So doing a quick look at the numbers, the rest of the week could play out something like...

Mon- 7.02
Tue- 6.67
Wed- 5.00
Thur- 4.75

Which leads to a first week total of $115M.

 

[kedrell]

I doubt it ever sees a weekday touch $7M. CATWS never did and that had way better WOM and reviews and opened higher. I think it'll end the 1st week at around $105-110M DOM.

 

[spiderman2]

before the movie came out I was saying USA 350 outside 550 for 900 million told but reviews have been not what I expected and I gusse I saw a different movie its to bad this movie is great dosnt desever the hate at all. Now I am going to say USA 230 outside 500 for told of 730.

 

[Green Goblin]

I don't mean to seem like hater but the whole "MCU is 100% fresh and has never been done before" isn't true.

The idea of shared continuity on the big screen has been done many times before, all the way back to the 1930's with Universals Monster Franchises. You could Marvel has done it best but nothing in Hollywood now is original.