The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 3

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Marvel/Disney has plans all the way through 2028, right? I hope that if Spider-Man ever came back that they would find a way to fit him in. It's Spider-Man!

Can anyone really see sony using Spider-Man until 2028? Based on how things are going, doesn't it look like the Spider-Man films will continue making less and less money?
 
Marvel/Disney has plans all the way through 2028, right? I hope that if Spider-Man ever came back that they would find a way to fit him in. It's Spider-Man!

Can anyone really see sony using Spider-Man until 2028? Based on how things are going, doesn't it look like the Spider-Man films will continue making less and less money?

No matter what, I still hope they continue to make the movies. I love these new movies compared to the original trilogy.
 
Spider-Man is the only tentpole franchise that sony has, a company that isn't doing very well right now at all. Unless these Spider-Man films start picking up again, would they even be profitable enough for sony?
 
Marvel/Disney has plans all the way through 2028, right? I hope that if Spider-Man ever came back that they would find a way to fit him in. It's Spider-Man!

Can anyone really see sony using Spider-Man until 2028? Based on how things are going, doesn't it look like the Spider-Man films will continue making less and less money?

The way things are going Sony themselves aren't going to be around in 2028.
 
The way things are going Sony themselves aren't going to be around in 2028.
Well the report from January 2014 says that they were 79% likely of going bankrupt in the next few years. I don't know how much has changed since then but by the looks of it I wouldn't be surprised if they did go bankrupt soon or at least tried to partner up with someone to stick around. They probably would try to sell Spider-Man back to Disney, but I think they would want the rights to just expire.
 
They had a set date by which they had to get a movie out. Marvel/Dsiney did not give Sony an extension the way they gave Fox with the FF franchise (a sure sign of which property they were more interested in getting back.)

It appears as though the increase in the reversion period for the FF, X-Men and Daredevil properties from a 5 to 7 year period occurred as part of a settlement with FOX over the Mutant X lawsuit back in 2002. That concession wouldn't have occurred if Marvel was owned by the Mouse.

When Sony cancelled Spider Man 4 back in 2010 they couldn't bully Disney/Marvel into an extension like FOX did in the pre-Disney days. In fact, Disney was able to push Sony into selling back both animation and merchandising rights. And Spidey's film rights will likely be sold as well by the end of the decade.
 
Holy Cow...... Boxoffice.com has ASM2 getting $37M this weekend.

Screw it...you know what, I just hope parents bring their children to this movie so that it hits $50M this weekend.

It gets so much hate but the 3D experience in this movie is worth the ticket.

IMO only Avatar and Gravity had better 3D experience.....

From boxoffice.com

1)Neighbors (2014) - $39,000,000
2)The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - $37,000,000
3)The Other Woman (2014) - $9,300,000
4)Moms' Night Out - $7,000,000
5)Heaven is for Real - $6,300,000
6)Rio 2 - $5,500,000
7)Captain America: The Winter Soldier - $5,300,000
 
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When Sony cancelled Spider Man 4 back in 2010 they couldn't bully Disney/Marvel into an extension like FOX did in the pre-Disney days. In fact, Disney was able to push Sony into selling back both animation and merchandising rights. And Spidey's film rights will likely be sold as well by the end of the decade.

Yes, probably. I think Sony is going to finish with TASM3/Sinister Six/Venom (if the spin-offs ever even get made) and there will be a point when sony has to hand over the film rights. I don't think they will be able to last longer than that with the way things are going.

The spin-offs are meant to come out before TASM4, which is supposed to hit 2018. So end of the decade sounds about right.
 
Sony was abit over confident in TASM2 when sadly the film wasn't exactly in the event movie standard they were treating it as, they seem to feel the villains and gwens death would be enough to hype this movie

they over marketed it which may have suffered because of that and they released it 2 weeks late in the US, now they did the same with the avengers but the reviews were more favorable but even if the reviews had not been more favorable for the avengers what the avengers had was action, it had iron man vs thor, hulk vs thor,a huge city battle... that alone was going to bring in the audience, but the problem with TASM was that it was more story then action so there is less wow i need to see this at the cinema and more well i see this important plot point now...

had TASM2 been more action then story it probably would have been more like well the reviews were ok but the action looks awesome thats gotta be worth seeing
 
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I am not sure why everyone here is looking toward the domestic take. Domestic take has rarely made a film successful. For instance, Pacific Rim only grossed $102 million in North America. However, it grossed over $300 million overseas, and that brought the total gross up to an acceptable number. It isn't that the domestic market isn't relevant. The domestic market is the single largest grossing block of any region. However, most of a film's money will be recouped internationally.

The more curious situation is that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has performed so poorly overseas. The film has been out for roughly a month in foreign territories, yet the gross sits at $277 million overseas (source: boxoffice mojo). Even if North America grossed $300 million (highly unlikely), the overseas market would have to pull in an additional $150 million just for this film to break $700 million.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=amazingspiderman2.htm

Anyone expecting this film to hit $900 or even $800 million is simply too indulgent in their fandom. This is why my prediction continues to sit at $550-650 million. The upside, is that the original Spider-Man 2 grossed lower than the original Spider-Man, yet the third film rebounded and made far more money than its predecessor. So even if this film takes a hit compared to the prior film's boxoffice draw, Sony can still pull it together again with a third entry.

The only question is, can Sony survive another forecast reduction in revenue? Sony's pockets have been ailing for years now and they are rather reliant on their film division to pull in money. They sold their PC unit, Playstation leads the market but loses Sony money for every unit sold. Their television unit is in shambles. Here is hoping for a Men in Black 4 before things get dire.
 
Anyone expecting this film to hit $900 or even $800 million is simply too indulgent in their fandom. This is why my prediction continues to sit at $550-650 million.

This film is definitely not making $800-900 million. No way, no how unfortunately.

The upside, is that the original Spider-Man 2 grossed lower than the original Spider-Man, yet the third film rebounded and made far more money than its predecessor. So even if this film takes a hit compared to the prior film's boxoffice draw, Sony can still pull it together again with a third entry.

This isn't the same situation. Spider-Man 2 made less money than its predecessor, but that would have been very difficult. The first film was a huge event, so it was tough competition. But Spider-Man 2 had critical acclaim, which had critics and audiences really pumped for the third, which is why it made so much money. TASM2 is being critically panned and getting some mixed reviews, so I wouldn't expect the third film to suddenly make more money. I'm expecting it to make even less.

The only question is, can Sony survive another forecast reduction in revenue? Sony's pockets have been ailing for years now and they are rather reliant on their film division to pull in money. They sold their PC unit, Playstation leads the market but loses Sony money for every unit sold. Their television unit is in shambles. Here is hoping for a Men in Black 4 before things get dire.

Sony put all of their eggs in the one Spider-Man basket. I don't know if they can survive unless TASM3 and Sinister Six are both huge successes.
 
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This isn't the same situation. Spider-Man 2 made less money than its predecessor, but that would have been very difficult. The first film was a huge event, so it was tough competition. But Spider-Man 2 had critical acclaim, which had critics and audiences really pumped for the third, which is why it made so much money. TASM2 is being critically panned and getting some mixed reviews, so I wouldn't expect the third film to suddenly make more money. I'm expecting it to make even less.

Spider-Man 2 also was unable to get the coveted first weekend in May release date that SM1, SM3, and TASM2 had.
 
Spider-Man 2 also was unable to get the coveted first weekend in May release date that SM1, SM3, and TASM2 had.
That's true as well. Also, I'm not sure people were really expecting the sequel to be as good as the first movie at that time.

BTW I love your avatar. Sean Connery for the win. :up:
 
That's true as well. Also, I'm not sure people were really expecting the sequel to be as good as the first movie at that time.

BTW I love your avatar. Sean Connery for the win. :up:

Thank you! :yay:
 
I am not sure why everyone here is looking toward the domestic take. Domestic take has rarely made a film successful. For instance, Pacific Rim only grossed $102 million in North America. However, it grossed over $300 million overseas, and that brought the total gross up to an acceptable number. It isn't that the domestic market isn't relevant. The domestic market is the single largest grossing block of any region. However, most of a film's money will be recouped internationally.

The more curious situation is that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has performed so poorly overseas. The film has been out for roughly a month in foreign territories, yet the gross sits at $277 million overseas (source: boxoffice mojo). Even if North America grossed $300 million (highly unlikely), the overseas market would have to pull in an additional $150 million just for this film to break $700 million.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=amazingspiderman2.htm

Anyone expecting this film to hit $900 or even $800 million is simply too indulgent in their fandom. This is why my prediction continues to sit at $550-650 million. The upside, is that the original Spider-Man 2 grossed lower than the original Spider-Man, yet the third film rebounded and made far more money than its predecessor. So even if this film takes a hit compared to the prior film's boxoffice draw, Sony can still pull it together again with a third entry.

The only question is, can Sony survive another forecast reduction in revenue? Sony's pockets have been ailing for years now and they are rather reliant on their film division to pull in money. They sold their PC unit, Playstation leads the market but loses Sony money for every unit sold. Their television unit is in shambles. Here is hoping for a Men in Black 4 before things get dire.

To be fair it's likely to make $100 million in China if it's legs aren't bad.
 
Spider-Man 2 also was unable to get the coveted first weekend in May release date that SM1, SM3, and TASM2 had.

That's another problem Sony may have going forward. The next two installements in the series are scheduled to be released on June 10, 2016 and May 4, 2018. Is there any chance that Sony will get the "free release" they received this year going forward? WB and FOX could both be eyeing those dates, especially if one of them is an ill conceived Sinister Six spinoff.
 
Wait... I'm a little slow here. You guys are saying that if TASM 2 makes 650 mil Sony loses money?
 
I don't think it's going to make 100M in China.
 
How popular is Spidey over there?
 
I am not sure why everyone here is looking toward the domestic take. Domestic take has rarely made a film successful. For instance, Pacific Rim only grossed $102 million in North America. However, it grossed over $300 million overseas, and that brought the total gross up to an acceptable number. It isn't that the domestic market isn't relevant. The domestic market is the single largest grossing block of any region. However, most of a film's money will be recouped internationally.

The more curious situation is that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has performed so poorly overseas. The film has been out for roughly a month in foreign territories, yet the gross sits at $277 million overseas (source: boxoffice mojo). Even if North America grossed $300 million (highly unlikely), the overseas market would have to pull in an additional $150 million just for this film to break $700 million.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=amazingspiderman2.htm

Anyone expecting this film to hit $900 or even $800 million is simply too indulgent in their fandom. This is why my prediction continues to sit at $550-650 million. The upside, is that the original Spider-Man 2 grossed lower than the original Spider-Man, yet the third film rebounded and made far more money than its predecessor. So even if this film takes a hit compared to the prior film's boxoffice draw, Sony can still pull it together again with a third entry.

The only question is, can Sony survive another forecast reduction in revenue? Sony's pockets have been ailing for years now and they are rather reliant on their film division to pull in money. They sold their PC unit, Playstation leads the market but loses Sony money for every unit sold. Their television unit is in shambles. Here is hoping for a Men in Black 4 before things get dire.

I thought it was doing well OS and especially in Asia?
 
Not sure how accurate it is but wikipedia does have their revenue, income, assets, and equity as being increased so they are improving if nothing else een if only for last year.

That being said I don't see how this movie makes less than 750 mil. Whether we like it or not these movies tend to perform. As it stands the movie is what..over 400 mil already. With only a single week here in the US. From what it looks like, many places online (other than SHH) seem to have commentators giving positive opinion of the film with the exception being the Raimi vs Webb fans. On yahoo, youtube, and other sites people have said a lot of good stuff. I think the movie will do better than all the gloom and doom predictions.
 
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