The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 1

[SpideyFan866]

you can buy tickets for ASM right now?!

I think some places will let you do it this early in advance, I'm not sure. I know I'm reserving my tickets for Avengers, TDKR, and TASM at least a month in advance.

 

[spider-neil]

for a bit of fun the directors I want/don't want to direct spidey

want;

1. james cameron
okay I hated his script treatment but everything the guy touches turns to gold and yes I enjoyed avatar. sue me. you know he would push the effects and actors to the limit.

2. del toro
I watched pans labrinth this week and the movie is a visual masterpiece.
he is a superb visual story teller.

3. fincher
yes he is a dark director but you know he wouldn't pull punches and it guarantess the cinematography would be oscar worthy.


don't want

1. nolan
realism? **** that!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Nolan shouldn't come anywhere near a Spider-Man film, IMO. Not because he's a bad director (he isn't), but it does not fit him at all.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Nolan shouldn't come anywhere near a Spider-Man film, IMO. Not because he's a bad director (he isn't), but it does not fit him at all.

Completely agree.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I thought batman '89 was average (didn't like nicholson's take on joker)
the other three movie I just out and out HATE.
thank goodness for nolan, I can just act like the burton/s**tmaker batman movies don't exist. total rubbish!

I agree. The Joker in Nolan's films is WAAAY better. I do tend to prefer the Batman in Burtons films though (keaton). He was much more of a detective then Nolan's bats.

Nolans bats just seems like he kinda doesn't know whats he's doing with the tech stuff and he relies on Lucious much more then portrayed in other media.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Nolan shouldn't come anywhere near a Spider-Man film, IMO. Not because he's a bad director (he isn't), but it does not fit him at all.

The same could've been said for Marc Webb two years ago.

Sure, you are correct because Nolan deals with more humanistic characters, and Batman fits that...but....c'mon, obviously I was just kidding around seeing as how Nolan is the only man we can think of that has saved a comic franchise via Batman.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I agree. The Joker in Nolan's films is WAAAY better. I do tend to prefer the Batman in Burtons films though (keaton). He was much more of a detective then Nolan's bats.

Nolans bats just seems like he kinda doesn't know whats he's doing with the tech stuff and he relies on Lucious much more then portrayed in other media.

I do prefer Keaton's Batman, although Bale's Bruce Wayne is better.

You do forget though, Wayne did a lot of investigating himself without Lucious' help. It was Wayne who did research on the man who shot up those two men in that apartment; Lucious only helped in figuring out where the fingerprint was. Also, it was Wayne who created that sonar at the end of The Dark Knight.

 

[spider-neil]

I agree. The Joker in Nolan's films is WAAAY better. I do tend to prefer the Batman in Burtons films though (keaton). He was much more of a detective then Nolan's bats.

Nolans bats just seems like he kinda doesn't know whats he's doing with the tech stuff and he relies on Lucious much more then portrayed in other media.

when I watch a superhero movie of a character I've read in the comics, I don't mind them taking liberties it is after all an 'adaptation' but the ESSENCE of the character has to be there and I just didn't get that from the burton movies and the s**tmaker movies are joke.

as for noln I think he's movies are great but I'm still waiting for the definative batman. put it this way;
if comic book batman is a perfect 10 (detective, martial artist, genius) - then nolan's batman is 7
if comic book spidey is a perfect 10 (guilt ridden, genius, wise arse) - then raimi's spidey is an 8

I think both can be improved. I'm not talking about the movies as a whole I'm talking how the principle charcter is portrayed.

 

[Spideyfan93]

I was about to rant on you Neil lmfao...but then I saw you were talking about the character.


There will never be a perfect comic adaption for any fictional character in a film, there will always be liberties taken. I, one day, hope to be a successful director or actor in the business...if I ever have the honor of directing a Spidey, Batman, etc superhero film...I will take liberties with my vision and story. I will alter things that I believe won't come through great that were great in the books.

It has to be done lol. Of course, the essence has to be there, but there will always be changes.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I missed the transition

don't want

1. nolan
realism? **** that!

Not sure about realism in Batman movies, he's a guy who wears bullet proof armor that could be pierced by dog bites
And there's the guy who gets half of his body burned badly but his shirt doesn't get touched

realism

 

[Troy_Parker]

I missed the transitionNot sure about realism in Batman movies, he's a guy who wears bullet proof armor that could be pierced by dog bites
And there's the guy who gets half of his body burned badly but his shirt doesn't get touched

realism

Wut?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Still too white
And man, it looks like the coat has its own flesh

 

[Orb]

It's his flesh popping out.

 

[spider-neil]

There will never be a perfect comic adaption for any fictional character in a film, there will always be liberties taken.

Sin city?

 

[kickass]

That was the best rendition of Two-Face we've ever gotten so far. As far as actor, look, and character arc.

 

[Anno_Domini]

when I watch a superhero movie of a character I've read in the comics, I don't mind them taking liberties it is after all an 'adaptation' but the ESSENCE of the character has to be there and I just didn't get that from the burton movies and the s**tmaker movies are joke.

as for noln I think he's movies are great but I'm still waiting for the definative batman. put it this way;
if comic book batman is a perfect 10 (detective, martial artist, genius) - then nolan's batman is 7
if comic book spidey is a perfect 10 (guilt ridden, genius, wise arse) - then raimi's spidey is an 8

I think both can be improved. I'm not talking about the movies as a whole I'm talking how the principle charcter is portrayed.

I don't think a movie will ever be PERFECT in the eyes of any fan. All that matters is the director's vision, wether it resembles 100% to a comic book character or not. And for that, I think Nolan has by far been the more close to keeping his Batman true to the comics than any CBM superhero.

I missed the transitionNot sure about realism in Batman movies, he's a guy who wears bullet proof armor that could be pierced by dog bites
And there's the guy who gets half of his body burned badly but his shirt doesn't get touched

realism

Neither his Batman Begins suit or The Dark Knight suit could prevent a straight shot from a bullet, so it's fair to assume that a bite from a dog can penetrate.

And...Dent only had his face and little of his shoulder burnt from flames, and it did mess up his suit.

Wut?

This. You can clearly see there is a fair amount of burnt clothing.

Two-Face looked so awesome in TDK.

Still too white
And man, it looks like the coat has its own flesh

As you can see, the suit was burnt through at some parts where you can see the undercoat(which I assume is the red part(but the flesh look is funny, lol)). And if it never burnt right through the suit coat, then a little smoky color on the white is enough as shown in that pic.

 

[Spideyfan93]

Frank Miller directed that movie...he's a comic book writer...not really a movie director per say.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Watchmen was fairly close to the graphic novel, but I must say...Ozymandias' plan was much better in the film.

 

[terry78]

Honestly, the way Ritchie portrayed Sherlock's deductive reasoning is pretty much how I felt Batman should work. Like all that preemptive **** happens so fast in his mind it has to be slowed down for us to catch it.

 

[kickass]

the world greatest detective - we're talking sherlock holmes level here
amoung the world greatest martial artists
an absolute TERROR for criminals

please tell me how burton or s**tmaker addressed that in their movies?
to be fair nolan hasn't address the above either but he done a far better job than those two hacks. to be fair I shouldn't critise batman returns because the two times I've attempted to watch it I've fallen asleep.

We're already venturing off into an off-topic discussion here but I will say this :

Criminals were absolutely terrified of Batman in the first film ('89). Even Gordon and the police were taken aback by this guy. Batman wasn't the "world's greatest detective" in any of the Batman films, but he has always been represented with more knowledge/know ho0w and access to information and materials than the police, which was the whole point of making him look like the "world's greatest detective" in the comics. The martial artist debate can also be argued in Nolan's films since we clearly know Bruce Wayne can hold his own..........just many viewers have a hard time making any of it out t:

And, for all intents and purposes, many would argue Keaton was a better Bruce/Batman than Bale. I like them both, personally.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

I could see a super bowl spot perhaps maybe a special trailer on fox

I wonder if before the movie comes out, they will show all three movies on FX and do behind the scenes stuff like what they did with X-Men?

 

[spider-neil]

Watchmen was fairly close to the graphic novel, but I must say...Ozymandias' plan was much better in the film.

the comic is better as world peace is achieved with the threat of an extraterrestrial.
dr. manhatten is essentially american, any peace wouldn't last.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I wonder if before the movie comes out, they will show all three movies on FX and do behind the scenes stuff like what they did with X-Men?

I think they will. I am kinda hoping that Sony someday rereleases the Raimi films into theaters.

I'd go see them in theaters again.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

I think they will. I am kinda hoping that Sony someday rereleases the Raimi films into theaters.

I'd go see them in theaters again.

That would be awesome, but I doubt that it'll ever happen.

 

[Anno_Domini]

the comic is better as world peace is achieved with the threat of an extraterrestrial.
dr. manhatten is essentially american, any peace wouldn't last.

The idea of using an "alien" is idiotic, imo. It can work on a comic, but definitely not for a film.

Plus, the idea is that Dr. Manhattan had also thought he was almost like a God to men, so there could be world peace towards such a powerful figure that thinks itself as some deity.