The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - Part 14

[Maximum Spider!]

As someone already mentioned, I think Peter is relatable for the way he goes through things.
He's got great powers and he can do amazing things with his powers, but that doesn't save him from being human and facing life's problems.
His genius allowing him to build the web-shooters is kind of a plus and I see it as a display of creativity that everyone potentially has.

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

The "any of us" was never there in the comics to begin with anyway, since I'm not sure "any of us" is a child prodigy who would've been able to build web-shooters.

FFS this.

People need to stop acting as though Peter could be literally "any of us" is every way. He is an everyman because of his problems. But as far as him becoming Spidey, only HE could do it. Theres a fine distinction there. Is everyone here an orphan genius?

Theres a difference between RELATABLE and REPLACEABLE. And people are talking about Peter Parker as if he belongs in the latter.

 

[Naked Shia]

and Straczynski made it clear that it was Peter's destiny to become the spider anyway ^^

 

[arana_cito]

The "any of us" was never there in the comics to begin with anyway, since I'm not sure "any of us" is a child prodigy who would've been able to build web-shooters.

Of course, I sure as he'll wouldn't lol. I heard a lot of ppl make that argument about the any of us thing. I'm happy with this new origin I don't think it really changes anything about SM at all

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I hope that they show the Parkers and Conners in the 80s-90s.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The thing is, once he's bitten, the whole "anybody could have been bitten" thing is lost/unimportant IMO. What's more important is that Peter/Spidey remains a relatable everyman AFTER the bite, which he DOES seem to be in this movie too. But I'm positive that they're not going to have Richard experiment on Peter...

Well he must have done something to him as a child. I mean, the spider bite is obviously an accident.

Or maybe Oscorp can control the spider by remote control and have it go bite Peter. LOL

 

[Picard Sisko]

and Straczynski made it clear that it was Peter's destiny to become the spider anyway ^^

Yup there you go.

 

[Picard Sisko]

FFS this.

People need to stop acting as though Peter could be literally "any of us" is every way. He is an everyman because of his problems. But as far as him becoming Spidey, only HE could do it. Theres a fine distinction there. Is everyone here an orphan genius?

Theres a difference between RELATABLE and REPLACEABLE. And people are talking about Peter Parker as if he belongs in the latter.

Well they literally just killed off Peter Parker and gave us Miles Morales, and his origin is not an accident at all thanks to Norman Osborn

 

[Spiderdevil]

FFS this.

People need to stop acting as though Peter could be literally "any of us" is every way. He is an everyman because of his problems. But as far as him becoming Spidey, only HE could do it. Theres a fine distinction there. Is everyone here an orphan genius?

Theres a difference between RELATABLE and REPLACEABLE. And people are talking about Peter Parker as if he belongs in the latter.

Thats not how i felt as a kid when I watched SM1,most of the kids feel themselves inside him and secretly feel even they can gain powers like him.Thats the whole essence of Spiderman

The whole he-is-normal-man-in-how-he-tackles-everday-crisis isnt important for kids,its how he gains his powers as a result of an accident and how they,in their fantasy world do the same thing is important

 

[Picard Sisko]

Thats not how i felt as a kid when I watched SM1,most of the kids feel themselves inside him and secretly feel even they can gain powers like him.Thats the whole essence of Spiderman

The whole he-is-normal-man-in-how-he-tackles-everday-crisis isnt important for kids,its how he gains his powers as a result of an accident and how they,in their fantasy world do the same thing is important

I never felt that I could be Spider-Man because of how he got his powers. I related to him because of the problems he faced, job issues, relationship problems, being nerdy, etc. Even after becoming Spider-Man he still had these problems, and this was something you couldn't find with other characters.

All the Spider-Man fans I know (including myself) have never heard of people relating to him because his origin is an accident.

 

[Naked Shia]

The accident is important, because it shows that even if you're an outcast, you can achieve something.

It's like the killing joke. But instead of a bad day making one crazy, it's a surprising day making one a super hero.

A single day can change your life, even if you are an average joe.

 

[Spiderdevil]

I never felt that I could be Spider-Man because of how he got his powers. I related to him because of the problems he faced, job issues, relationship problems, being nerdy, etc. Even after becoming Spider-Man he still had these problems, and this was something you couldn't find with other characters.

All the Spider-Man fans I know (including myself) have never heard of people relating to him because his origin is an accident.

So you can relate to any random guy in any random chick flick,why does it have to be a superhero movie?

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

WOAH.

When I log out of Facebook the TV Spot starts playing!

 

[Picard Sisko]

So you can relate to any random guy in any random chick flick,why does it have to be a superhero movie?

because this guy that I can relate to becomes Spider-Man..................

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I can relate to Spider-Man in SOME way.
This is a true story.

I was picked on for being a Spider-Man fan, still am. One whilst walking by the football ground with my hoodie on, the *****es in my grade surrounded me and looked for trouble in the school yard, I told them to go away, they didn't. So I told them to "Fudge" of yet they called me names like "Are your Spider-Senses tingling" and some other ********, so what I did was I make a smart comment " Hey you know if your gonna pick on someone smaller than you, at least try to intimate them" My comment got him angry, so he tried to attack me and I swear to LORD I have no clue how I dodged it but I did, I felt as if I knew I could beat him. So I hit him in the chest real hard, got him down to his knees.

He then tried to push me around a little more, then he walked away. I walked away, and from day on the boy who didn't talk much became the boy who punches James Ojami in the chest, still not that popular but I feel as if I stood up for myself and protected who am I as a normal person.


Now carry on the thing I wrote probably means nothing to this thread.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

But I do feel a connection with Peter, he was picked on and bullied but stood up to defend himself. Then he paid the price of being stupid, that won happen to me.

In a sense, were all like Peter Parker, the everyday kid in school that can do something more if we just knew him.

 

[Naked Shia]

it was a cool story. I'm glad you were able to protect yourself.

 

[Abudefduf]

Thats not how i felt as a kid when I watched SM1,most of the kids feel themselves inside him and secretly feel even they can gain powers like him.Thats the whole essence of Spiderman

The whole he-is-normal-man-in-how-he-tackles-everday-crisis isnt important for kids,its how he gains his powers as a result of an accident and how they,in their fantasy world do the same thing is important

That's because Peter in S-M1 was an average guy. Yes, he was somewhat smart but he was no genius: it was the spider bite gave him organic webshooters, he didn't need to invent anything.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

Maybe it's me, but I never looked at the incident with the spider bite as something that meant anyone could be spider-man. It wasn't the bite or the powers, it was the fact that this kid, with all his faults, his strengths and weaknesses, could be a hero. He didn't always win or even do the smart thing but you know he'd always try to do the RIGHT thing even if it sucked to do it. I never thought as a kid that one thing could happen and turn me into a hero. I related to Peter Parker and still do, that's why he's the Everyman. He's not rich, he's not a god and he's not perfect. He can't always pay his bills on time, he's forgetful, even obnoxious from time to time. When or how he got his powers doesn't change any of that. While I didn't really understand JMS' spider totem idea, it didn't change a single thing about who Peter was as a person or even as spider man

 

[Picard Sisko]

Maybe it's me, but I never looked at the incident with the spider bite as something that meant anyone could be spider-man. It wasn't the bite or the powers, it was the fact that this kid, with all his faults, his strengths and weaknesses, could be a hero. He didn't always win or even do the smart thing but you know he'd always try to do the RIGHT thing even if it sucked to do it. I never thought as a kid that one thing could happen and turn me into a hero. I related to Peter Parker and still do, that's why he's the Everyman. He's not rich, he's not a god and he's not perfect. He can't always pay his bills on time, he's forgetful, even obnoxious from time to time. When or how he got his powers doesn't change any of that. While I didn't really understand JMS' spider totem idea, it didn't change a single thing about who Peter was as a person or even as spider man

Exactly. Stan Lee never meant for Spider-Man to be relatable because his origin was an accident, but for the reasons you listed.

Watch "Stan Lee's Mutants Monsters & Marvels." He explains it all.

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

So you can relate to any random guy in any random chick flick,why does it have to be a superhero movie?

Because the fact that he is a superhero (with the coolest superpowers every, I might add) makes the character that much more awesome. You see relatable, fleshed out characters everywhere, but you don't see the combination of that with superpowers often.

I thought that was obvious by now...

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

Exactly. Stan Lee never meant for Spider-Man to be relatable because his origin was an accident, but for the reasons you listed.

Watch "Stan Lee's Mutants Monsters & Marvels." He explains it all.

Yeah I have watched that and any other time Stan talks about it, it's from the aspect of who Peter is not how he got his powers. If he wanted to make him a TRUE Everyman, he wouldn't have made him a genius. I'm not going in either direction on the spider bite vs DNA because I won't know until I see the movie. As long as its good and the execution is there, I'm good either way

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yeah I have watched that and any other time Stan talks about it, it's from the aspect of who Peter is not how he got his powers. If he wanted to make him a TRUE Everyman, he wouldn't have made him a genius. I'm not going in either direction on the spider bite vs DNA because I won't know until I see the movie. As long as its good and the execution is there, I'm good either way

Agreed

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

Yeah I have watched that and any other time Stan talks about it, it's from the aspect of who Peter is not how he got his powers. If he wanted to make him a TRUE Everyman, he wouldn't have made him a genius. I'm not going in either direction on the spider bite vs DNA because I won't know until I see the movie. As long as its good and the execution is there, I'm good either way

My sentiments exactly with all of that.

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

Thats not how i felt as a kid when I watched SM1,most of the kids feel themselves inside him and secretly feel even they can gain powers like him.Thats the whole essence of Spiderman

No. You didn't explain the novelty of Spider-Man. You just pointed out the novelty of all superheroes.

Superheros are awesome not just because of the "hero" part. But also because as kids (and even adults), we fantasize having their powers. Thats not just for Spider-Man.