The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 5

[Troy_Parker]

I don't know anything about photoshop, but i just mean that the choice of background design, mixed with the spidey webs, makes for a very psychedelic image, it does look like the kind of poster you'd get in one of those hippy head shops that are supposed to look especially trippy under the influence, like, if you were real high on acid, that design would seriously give you the wobbly time tunnelesque effect. I would not mind that hanging up on my wall actually, haha.

Yeah, they've gone for bright and urm, psychedelic backgrounds for all of the promo stuff:

 

[craigdbfan]

This new one though is more like this crap that was released not to long ago:

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

@Troy_Parker...The way that background design is though, the fact that all the little shapes vary slightly in size and shape, (as opposed to the uniform spider-webesque designs on the above ones you just posted), combining that with the contrast to the spider-webs on the mask, it does give a very wobbly psychedelic effect, that those types of old hippy head posters are meant to do.
I am being serious here, I wouldn't be surprised if that was an intentional psychedelic effect they were going for.
It's pretty good in that way, I don't knwo if it will catch on with the GA though, they may think it's a bit weird.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

This new one though is more like this crap that was released not to long ago:

This one still inspires more cheerful feeling than the new extra extra bland promo

 

[Troy_Parker]

It's not for the GA. It's for the backs of toy boxes. :P

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I don't think the new promo looks *anything* like those posters you guys are comparing it to.
They have went for a very in your face, vibrant, psychedelic effect there.

 

[craigdbfan]

Same awful photoshop work though. The wall he's climbing on is blending in through his body.

I don't think the new promo looks *anything* like those posters you guys are comparing it to.
They have went for a very in your face, vibrant, psychedelic effect there.

Same awful contrast and the wall is blending in through its body! You don't find that psychedelic?

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

It's not for the GA. It's for the backs of toy boxes. :P

Whatever it is for, the design i am talking about, the way the background shapes are arranged, it gives it a very wobbly, 3D type of effect, that is quite psychedelic.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Same awful photoshop work though. The wall he's climbing on is blending in through his body.

Sadly, it takes an effort not to notice that

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I didn't actually notice the wall blending into spider-man's arm in that other poster, which actually looks kind of ok, but that is a very different effect from what I am talking about. That new one is in yer face! haha it's like spider-man is sitting right in front of you, and is staring right at you! It's intense! ! ! ! !
The more i look at it, the more i like it, it is the first psychedelic superhero image i can recall seeing in that manner.
Back of toy boxes?! I wanna big poster of that on ma wall ma!

 

[Troy_Parker]

RIM, just don't post anything next time, share it on Twitter or something.

Mfw people are nitpicking something that's going to be on towels and toys.

EDIT: inb4 "But it does suck." I agree, it sucks, but I'm not going to start criticizing every single aspect of the damn picture. Do you think the contrast level of the picture of Spidey on the back of the toy box is going to matter to the kid who'll be begging his mum/dad for the toy?

EDIT: inb4 "But it's the internet."

EDIT: inb4 "But it's the Hype."

EDIT: inb4s. inb4s everywhere.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I honestly like this design. It's wasted on toy boxes imo. It's psychedelic pop art, seriously. It's frickin great, I think the artist was trying to go for a 3D type of effect.
I don't know if folk think I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not, I honestly wish i had a wall poster of this image.

New ASM Promo:

Spoiler

 

[Spider-Who?]

I appreciate RIM's constant relinquishing of new pictures/info, but good LORD is that a terrible picture. I'm honestly having a very hard time believing this is a legitimate promo image, and if it is the person who made it needs to be fired, because everything that is wrong with this image is something that should have been taught in the very first image manipulation class in an art school. Color/contrast, pixelation, masking (look at how terrible the edge of the shoulders are), etc.

And it doesn't matter whether this is gonna be on a stupid toy box - for the people/company responsible for the design, the quality of one's product is NOT dictated by where the design will be seen. You don't excuse bad work like this "just because kids won't care". Companies get hired for projects because what they do is good, regardless of the bottom line. If I saw this image in someone's portfolio, I would laugh at the potential contractor asking to get hired. Terrible.

/end rant

 

[Troy_Parker]

I appreciate RIM's constant relinquishing of new pictures/info, but good LORD is that a terrible picture. I'm honestly having a very hard time believing this is a legitimate promo image, and if it is the person who made it needs to be fired, because everything that is wrong with this image is something that should have been taught in the very first image manipulation class in an art school. Color/contrast, pixelation, masking (look at how terrible the edge of the shoulders are), etc.

And it doesn't matter whether this is gonna be on a stupid toy box - for the people/company responsible for the design, the quality of one's product is NOT dictated by where the design will be seen. You don't excuse bad work like this "just because kids won't care". Companies get hired for projects because what they do is good, regardless of the bottom line. If I saw this image, I would laugh at the potential contractor asking to get hired. Terrible.

/end rant

Except the person already has their job and is making money. So somebody on the hiring team done goofed.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Yeah, technically that part with the shoulders looks wonky, but that could be tidied up, it is a very striking image, I would hang that up on my wall no problem. I like that the background is ****ed up, it's meant to be, but I don't think it's right for a toy box, it should be sold as a poster in a hippy head shop for trippers.

 

[craigdbfan]

I appreciate RIM's constant relinquishing of new pictures/info, but good LORD is that a terrible picture. I'm honestly having a very hard time believing this is a legitimate promo image, and if it is the person who made it needs to be fired, because everything that is wrong with this image is something that should have been taught in the very first image manipulation class in an art school. Color/contrast, pixelation, masking (look at how terrible the edge of the shoulders are), etc.

And it doesn't matter whether this is gonna be on a stupid toy box - for the people/company responsible for the design, the quality of one's product is NOT dictated by where the design will be seen. You don't excuse bad work like this "just because kids won't care". Companies get hired for projects because what they do is good, regardless of the bottom line. If I saw this image in someone's portfolio, I would laugh at the potential contractor asking to get hired. Terrible.

/end rant

Exactly.

Smart post.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

The image is a, seemingly unintentional, psychedelic pop art piece, it is not for the world of toyboxes or graphic designer suits. It is for those with an eye for the bizarre in their art.
Art comes in all forms, there are no rules, doesn't matter what it was intended for in the first place, or what you are 'technically' 'supposed to do' with such designs. Apart from a little technical tidying up around the shoulders that is needed, it's a ****ed up masterpiece of 'outsider art'.

 

[Spider-Who?]

The image is a, seemingly unintentional, psychedelic pop art piece, it is not for the world of toyboxes or graphic designer suits. It is for those with an eye for the bizarre in their art.
Art comes in all forms, there are no rules, doesn't matter what it was intended for in the first place, or what you are 'technically' 'supposed to do' with such designs. Apart from a little technical tidying up around the shoulders that is needed, it's a ****ed up masterpiece of 'outsider art'.

I get what you're trying to say, but I disagree wholeheartedly with the bold. It's not just the shoulders. The whole image is bad. Look at how pixelated Spidey is; especially around his neck. The quality of the picture should never fly because of that alone. Then the over saturation (which I admit could be seen as subjective) is a designer's nightmare. The over saturation kills any detail and proper separation from the back ground (and if it was the designers intention to make him flow into the back ground, it's STILL a very poor job).

Saying "there are no rules" is an excuse for shoddy craftsmanship. If there were no "rules", there would be no need for art schools, there would be no need for design parameters and understanding of technique and work flows; everyone would automatically be an art master. Art is subjective, yes, but that does not negate one's responsibility to have attention to detail, to take pride in one's work and create a piece with quality. I mean, ****, we're talking about a 5 minute Photoshop job where Spidey was cut and pasted with no effort or thought toward the basic tenants of design and craftsmanship.

There is such a thing as good art. There is such a thing as bad art.

 

[Harley2004]

Other than that above close up, most these promo images are just amazing. Everything about this film looks to be great. Thank god spiderman, is made by sony and not marvel.

 

[Smoke87]

The image is a, seemingly unintentional, psychedelic pop art piece, it is not for the world of toyboxes or graphic designer suits. It is for those with an eye for the bizarre in their art.
Art comes in all forms, there are no rules, doesn't matter what it was intended for in the first place, or what you are 'technically' 'supposed to do' with such designs. Apart from a little technical tidying up around the shoulders that is needed, it's a ****ed up masterpiece of 'outsider art'.

I agree! I definitely dig it. Trippy pic, and i didn't even know anything was being released today, so it's cool.

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

New ASM Promo:

Spoiler

That would make an awesome 3D motion poster.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

edited into the following post on the next page, cause i responded to two posts at once...

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I get what you're trying to say, but I disagree wholeheartedly with the bold. It's not just the shoulders. The whole image is bad. Look at how pixelated Spidey is; especially around his neck. The quality of the picture should never fly because of that alone. Then the over saturation (which I admit could be seen as subjective) is a designer's nightmare. The over saturation kills any detail and proper separation from the back ground (and if it was the designers intention to make him flow into the back ground, it's STILL a very poor job).

Saying "there are no rules" is an excuse for shoddy craftsmanship. If there were no "rules", there would be no need for art schools, there would be no need for design parameters and understanding of technique and work flows; everyone would automatically be an art master. Art is subjective, yes, but that does not negate one's responsibility to have attention to detail, to take pride in one's work and create a piece with quality. I mean, ****, we're talking about a 5 minute Photoshop job where Spidey was cut and pasted with no effort or thought toward the basic tenants of design and craftsmanship.

There is such a thing as good art. There is such a thing as bad art.

Yeah, if it was a little tidied up technically around the edges and whatnot, it would be better, because it works as a striking piece of pop/outsider art, imo. What I meant by the 'no rules' bit, was that I think a lot of people would consider the backdrop an eyesore, but to me, the varied size of the shapes in the background, that are designed to give it a wobbly 3d type effect, brightly contrasting with the very in your face spider-man image, makes for a very vibrant image.
edit: So, y'know, if the technical photoshop elements were tided up a bit(which were intentionlly supposed to be better executed), and then someone said to me, 'No, that is still 'bad art'. because they considered it an eyesore, or because someone at art school told them that kind of design was 'bad', they would be wrong, becasue there really are no rules when it comes to personal taste with such elements.

That would make an awesome 3D motion poster.

Aye, this is what I am talking about, if you were having a bit of a psychedelic expereince, that is the kind of effect it would have on you. Because of the way the background is wobbly, it *almost* moves.

 

[DyeLorean]

Remove the background and you have a great close-up

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

What is also good about the background design, that i like anyway, is that it looks like someone has just grabbed a magic marker and drawn somewhat haphazardly, and that is contrasted with a very mainstream hollywood superhero costume.