The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 6

[Anno_Domini]

Confirmed? When?

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

They're doing that in 616? I had no idea, but I think it's pretty smart, imo; but for the reboot, they should do that from the start. I mean, we're already having a lizard serum turn a doctor into a lizard, so it's not that far off from having a serum turn someone into this humanoid goblin with green skin. In fact, it'll be MUCH more frightening than a guy in a green suit, let alone a guy in a green robotic suit as seen in Raimi's film.

No doubt there.

Yeah they haven't really elaborated on it since Dark Avengers, but when Osborn was finally defeated and the Sentry went crazy, his face turned green and he started freaking out. As of right now the GG is more of a mental thing with Norman, but there definitely seems to be more there than the writers are letting on. But I think that premise works perfectly for the movie. We don't need a Hulk-Goblin, just one that doesn't look like a power ranger.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I wonder, though....should Norman be able to turn back to normal in a film if he was turned into a goblin, or should he stay like that?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Confirmed? When?

It was confirmed a few days ago when we found out that things like Peter's parents story/secrets won't be solved by the end of this movie. I think it was in an interview.

EDIT:
-The Lizard has a flat face to convey emotion.
-Both Peter and Connors spend the film "zig-zagging" through life looking for their "missing piece."
-Peter doesn't react so "violently" to the Lizard because he knows what he truly is while the city is out for blood.
-Connors does some very serious stuff as the Lizard.
-The movie combines various parts of many different versions of Spider-Man. (Peter is Ultimate, Gwen is Amazing, ect)
-Webb prefers the movie to be known as "grounded", not dark.
-Spider-Man's humor was a major point of Webb's approach.
-Webb values the romantic side of Spider-Man.
-Webb took the project because it was new for him.
-The movie's scope grows immensely throughout the course of the film.
-The movie is designed to be it's own thing but the story of his parents is brought through out the trilogy. (Don't expect this to be answered by the end of TAS)
-There is a hint towards the villain of the next movie.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

They're not going to end the trilogy on an extremely depressing note. Not unless they end it with Peter meeting MJ, similar to the end of (500) DoS, leaving the audience to decide what happens next.

I honestly don't see that happening. MJ is a very important character and I see her and Harry being introduced shortly.

 

[Anno_Domini]

It was confirmed a few days ago when we found out that things like Peter's parents story/secrets won't be solved by the end of this movie. I think it was in an interview.

EDIT:
-The Lizard has a flat face to convey emotion.
-Both Peter and Connors spend the film "zig-zagging" through life looking for their "missing piece."
-Peter doesn't react so "violently" to the Lizard because he knows what he truly is while the city is out for blood.
-Connors does some very serious stuff as the Lizard.
-The movie combines various parts of many different versions of Spider-Man. (Peter is Ultimate, Gwen is Amazing, ect)
-Webb prefers the movie to be known as "grounded", not dark.
-Spider-Man's humor was a major point of Webb's approach.
-Webb values the romantic side of Spider-Man.
-Webb took the project because it was new for him.
-The movie's scope grows immensely throughout the course of the film.
-The movie is designed to be it's own thing but the story of his parents is brought through out the trilogy. (Don't expect this to be answered by the end of TAS)
-There is a hint towards the villain of the next movie.

What...the....fudge...

Why does everything have to be a flipping trilogy


Edit: I assume they'll be taking the TDK route then and we'll be having Green Goblin and Gwen's death in the sequel?

 

[Troy_Parker]

What...the....fudge...

Why does everything have to be a flipping trilogy


Edit: I assume they'll be taking the TDK route then and we'll be having Green Goblin and Gwen's death in the sequel?

That's what I was thinking. lol

 

[Spider-Who?]

Same here. Killing off Gwen in the third act (film 3) isn't how to do it. You need to give the franchise room to breathe after that - Pete needs to be shown dealing with that grief and coming out the other side with MJ. You can't cover Gwen's death and all it involves after it in just one film.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I don't think I am a fan of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 pulling, pretty much, the same thing that The Dark Knight pulled.

Main villain ---> Main villain kills the woman that the hero loves

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Same here. Killing off Gwen in the third act (film 3) isn't how to do it. You need to give the franchise room to breathe after that - Pete needs to be shown dealing with that grief and coming out the other side with MJ. You can't cover Gwen's death and all it involves after it in just one film.

I agree with this, in addition to the points I made earlier. Breathing space is necessary; you can't just kill Gwen and call it a day.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

I don't think I am a fan of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 pulling, pretty much, the same thing that The Dark Knight pulled.

Main villain ---> Main villain kills the woman that the hero loves

I'm more worried about them copying the same villain template in Doc Ock. It just seems redundant to me to have him be the villain in the second film of both franchises. I wouldn't mind seeing him again, but it wouldn't be terrible to have a different villain.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm more worried about them copying the same villain template in Doc Ock. It just seems redundant to me to have him be the villain in the second film of both franchises. I wouldn't mind seeing him again, but it wouldn't be terrible to have a different villain.

True. If Ock is shown, he should be in the third or fourth film

As for Gwen, I hope she stays living, don't mind her staying

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I'm really only supporting Goblin in the new trilogy, otherwise I don't want any other reappearing villains, unless we break the mold of three films.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

I wouldn't say it's copying Dark Knight because that's not the first movie to have a villain kill off of a love interest and two, you do what's best for the story always and don't worry about who did what before you. In terms of comparing Rachel's death and Gwen's death, there should be no comparison really because Rachel and Bruce just didn't have it and her death seemed more of a story function and need so the impact wasn't very emotional as Gwen's death will be. If it were me, and it's not but if it were, I'd introduce MJ in the second movie because she's an important character and Peter needs to be given a choice, he always needs choices as to what to do in his life personally and as spider-man. He makes his choice of Gwen only to have it ultimately snatched away from him and in the third movie eventually he and MJ build to something or maybe even something that they end the movie off with things sort of looking up for him as he has a new love in his life.

And movies are trilogies because it's the most succinct way to tell a story in three acts when they're connected. Beginning, middle and end, that's just an old fashioned storytelling trope that won't be going anywhere for a long time so probably in 4 or 5 years, we'll be talking about who's next up to play Spidey for another three films. Maybe one day they'll decide to adapt a formula like the bond franchise and just make the movies self contained but as long as guys look at the story as three parts, it'll be trilogies

 

[Charles L]

It being an Ultimate-ish inspiration of this new reboot, they should make Osborn turn into a 'goblin', but not Hulk-size in that comic series; as a normal-sized 'goblin' with purple garb on much like this:

I don't know how they could make this realistic-looking. I, too, wasn't that big of a fan of the suit in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man but I think that even what they were going for at first (video below) looked goofy. But who knows? If they can make an 8 foot lizard look convincing, they can do anything, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waYxuyM4vi0

 

[spida-man]

I read the empire magazine that a past writer of spidey comics said he feels the way it should be done is introduce MJ in the second film and kill off Gwen in the third, and if possible THEN go on from there with more films.

IMHO I'd like to see the reboot accomplish what the Raimi films original plan was rumored to do: 6 films

And I think they could pull it off. Honestly i'm so effin tired of all this "lets make a trilogy" B.S. or "after the trilogy lets start all over again, or make a film thats half sequel and half reboot"

no eff that, just give me a damn sequel and try to make it good. so many other franchises get more than just a trilogy.

I want Spider-Man to get more than just 3 films in one series. Spidey has had 50 years worth of stories they can adapt to make more films than the friggin James Bond series.

if some stupid book series about wizards or vampires can get more than 3 films, why TF can't a comicbook superhero whose had 50 years of history get more than 3 good films in a series?

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Amen brother.

 

[spida-man]

also I don't mind them going to Ultimate approach with Goblin:

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

Be warned spida-man. You have just unleashed hell. I've been down this road.

 

[spida-man]

Be warned spida-man. You have just unleashed hell. I've been down this road.

pffft as much as these guys give me crap for my opinions in the past, i could honestly care less

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

pffft as much as these guys give me crap for my opinions in the past, i could honestly care less

Good for you man. I'm an Ultimate Goblin fan as well. The Hulk comparisons get pretty boring if you ask me. The only slight parallel I ever saw is that the Hulk is supposed to be the incarnation of Banner's rage and Ultimate Goblin is pretty much the incarnate of Osborn's madness. Which, honestly, is always what the GG has been in the first place. I never understood the outbursts.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

pffft as much as these guys give me crap for my opinions in the past, i could honestly care less

I for one, have never given you any crap about your opinion. I do however disagree with you on this...I don't care for Ultimate Goblin.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Its not hard to figure out who the villain of the next movie is.

Marc Webb said that the villain for the next movie would be hinted at.

Marc Webb later said that the origins of Norman Osborn would be hinted at.


Not hard to put them two and two together.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Yeah, what SpideyFan866 said.

Plus, we should just be happy that we'll be getting a damn good take on the Spidey mythology with Marc Webb at the helm. Who cares if it's just three movies?

 

[Hurm...]

I just think that having another villain that has to go through a major physical transformation, like Lizard, is going to get old.

Obviously, the costume will look less Power Ranger-y than in the first Spider-Man.

Now that I think of it, the first Spider-Man would have been SO much better had Sony went with a different costume to complement Dafoe's demonic performance.