The Aronofsky Draft

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  1. Alexei Belyakov

    Alexei Belyakov Well-Known Member

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    I'd take Aronofsky's one-off any day of the week over a DOFP tie-in.

    BUT...Since I think Darren's story is history, I'll make the best out of what we're getting - which is hopefully a tie-in to DOFP.
     
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  2. Alexei Belyakov

    Alexei Belyakov Well-Known Member

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    Not true.

    Wolverine will most likely be the time traveler in DOFP. By linking this film to DOFP you build anticipation & since Wolverine is in this film you can kill two birds with one stone.

    If Mangold's story blatantly sets the film post-X3, you can begin to show how the world fell after the assassination/event.

    Maybe the film ends with Sentinels or some clear lead-in to DOFP like Mjolnir in IM2 or The Cosmic Cube in Thor.

    Again, I'd prefer Aronofsky's Kubrickian one-off, but I have a strong feeling we're not getting it. Mangold's twitter comments pretty much confirm that. Darren's [completely linear] script was set in the 80s and ended with
    Wolverine sitting in a Japanese prison cell. No cliffhanger. No lead-in. Just a broken man yet again locked away.
     
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    If this was entirely a pre X1 film Mangold would have said oh our story takes place In 15 year timeframe between wolverine losing his memory and meeting
    Rogue.We may get a glimpse of post trilgy world to lead Into future we will
    see In Days of future Past as ending of the Wolverine.

    I also have feeling they changed Viper Into somekind of mutant so she can be
    like wolverine appearing the same age In multiple settings.

    The question also Is are scenes of bearded scruffy Wolverine part of film's
    main timeframe or will we see 2 past sequenzes of wolverine set before the
    film's main time frame.Perhapes showing Wolverine encounting Viper at 2
    different times In his life before the main story In Japan.

    It may be till next july as the film Is about to open we get final concrete
    answers about the complete time frame of The Wolverine.

    A liner set In 1980's take could have been done and been great.
     
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  4. X-Maniac

    X-Maniac High Evolutionary

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    I'd have had no problem with a linear - and far more 'arthouse' - story that didn't necessarily connect to any of the other films or set up any future films, but I don't like the ending you posted from the Aronofsky script.

    Fingers crossed that Mangold is still aiming for some artistic value in the production, and that perhaps Bryan Singer has given his approval to what they are now doing.

    A thematic concept is essential - even the much-reviled X3 managed that while XMO: Wolverine didn't.
     
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  5. Alexei Belyakov

    Alexei Belyakov Well-Known Member

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    You say that because you don't know the full story.

    The script review/outline I read is 15 pages long. Would you like to read it?

    Not sure if we have a word limit in posts, its gotta be at least 5000 words.
     
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    Danoyse mentioned script reviews are okay, but I'm wondering if her idea of a script review is something very brief/vague. This is 15 pages and nearly 4000 words. Its more an outline than a script review.

    If she thinks that's fine, I'll share it.
     
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  7. danoyse

    danoyse Snikt. Stab. Repeat.

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    That would be a no. That's far beyond a script review from the sound of it.
     
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    Understood.

    Now, if I chop it down & remove dialogue, would it pass inspection? Say 500 words & strictly A through Z?
     
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    I remember David Benioff's Wolverine Origins script/first draft. Now that had the makings of a damn fine movie, the ending was especially so much better and poignant.
     
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  10. Alexei Belyakov

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    I hated it.

    Too much fantasy and sci-fi. The minimalist approach to Wolverine is the best. Aronofsky's approach is very minimalist. The screenplay is like a mesh of DRIVE and OLDBOY with a hint of KILL BILL & BATMAN BEGINS.
     
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    I don't know what draft you're talking about, but the version I read was pretty much Barry Windsor-Smiths Weapon X come to life, and they did ground it a fair bit. Making him born in the 50s instead of the mid 19th century, reducing him to only serving in Vietnam, cutting back on the number of mutants, no Team-X. Really, the only two bits that were "out there" was the Blob, and the fact that Weapon 11 was a squadron of clones.

    Everything else seemed like a great prequel to what we saw in X-2.
     
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  12. Alexei Belyakov

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    What about the dude with 6 arms?
     
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    Where was that? Was he one of the mutants hiding in the bar?
     
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  14. Alexei Belyakov

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    Hopefully in the year and a half between Aronofsky's departure and the beginning of principal photography, not alot was changed in the script.
     
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    The 06/01/06 draft I read wasn't that much closer to Weapon X by Barry Windsor-Smith. Wolverine had some flashbacks while they injected the adamantium in his body and he killed a pack of wolves in the snow, but that's all (as far as I recall). Wolverine quicky escaped from the Weapon X facility, wasn't brainwashed and he still lost his memory to an adamantium bullet.
     
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  16. danoyse

    danoyse Snikt. Stab. Repeat.

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    No. If you've got an outline to a script, it's not a review and you can't post it here.
     
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  17. Alexei Belyakov

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    Yes he did.

    The outline/script review I read is of a "Screenplay by Darren Aronofsky" and is dated January 9, 2011.
     
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  18. Great Mind(s)

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    Are they even allowed to use his script if he's not part of the film??
     
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    Yeah, the screenplay belongs to the studio. If they wanted to, they could have shot it word for word.

    But instead they brought in Bomback (God knows why).
     
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    That's really depressing. He wrote the new Total Recall? What were they thinking?? :doh: The way it sounds, the original script would have been a seriously dark twisted film.
     
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  21. Alexei Belyakov

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    In Aronofsky's draft, Wolverine IS the animal throughout the first act. He kills dozens of people, brutally.

    In the second act he learns to control the beast. It doesn't mean he stops killing. He simply learns how to kill like a warrior rather than an animal.
     
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  22. Alexei Belyakov

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    There was no funeral in Aronofsky's draft & I'm sure the men in black are all Yakuza.

    the ninja in the script are all part of The Hand & hide their faces throughout most of the film. When they fight Wolverine, their faces aren't visible.

    The stuff with Viper is all new to me, but the garden sequence sounds very similar to
    when Wolverine first meets Ogun
    .

    All in all, as long as Mangold keeps this film bloody and brutal, I'm happy.
     
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  23. Great Mind(s)

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    Was there a scene in Arronofsky's draft that had Wolverine carrying Mariko like that?
     
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  24. Alexei Belyakov

    Alexei Belyakov Well-Known Member

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    Good question and the answer's
    no.

    The only thing I can discern from the set pics because of the draft is that the men in black suits he was spotted fighting are
    Yakuza. In the script they're described as "men in black suits". The ninja Wolverine fights are The Hand and are all "hiding their faces".
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  25. Alexei Belyakov

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    In the screenplay
    Mariko basically represents shelter for him & stillness. His scenes with her are quiet & calm. No sex, no liquor, no tension. Its always daytime when he's with her - literally.

    With Yukio, its all about chaos & losing control. They have sex many times. Rough sex. They chug Saki together. They plan murders together & she gets aroused when he kills. Their relationship is morbid. There's a scene where Yukio molests & eventually seduces a random Japanese woman on a Tokyo train while Logan watches. She does it to arouse him. Its quite graphic and disturbing. His scenes with her are always at night - literally.

    So its basically a very well-written ying & yang. Each woman represents an aspect of him: Mariko is control, Yukio is chaos.
     
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