Wolverine will most likely be the time traveler in DOFP. By linking this film to DOFP you build anticipation & since Wolverine is in this film you can kill two birds with one stone.
If Mangold's story blatantly sets the film post-X3, you can begin to show how the world fell after the assassination/event.
Maybe the film ends with Sentinels or some clear lead-in to DOFP like Mjolnir in IM2 or The Cosmic Cube in Thor.
Again, I'd prefer Aronofsky's Kubrickian one-off, but I have a strong feeling we're not getting it. Mangold's twitter comments pretty much confirm that. Darren's [completely linear] script was set in the 80s and ended with
Wolverine sitting in a Japanese prison cell. No cliffhanger. No lead-in. Just a broken man yet again locked away.
Wolverine will most likely be the time traveler in DOFP. By linking this film to DOFP you build anticipation & since Wolverine is in this film you can kill two birds with one stone.
If Mangold's story blatantly sets the film post-X3, you can begin to show how the world fell after the assassination/event.
Maybe the film ends with Sentinels or some clear lead-in to DOFP like Mjolnir in IM2 or The Cosmic Cube in Thor.
Again, I'd prefer Aronofsky's Kubrickian one-off, but I have a strong feeling we're not getting it. Mangold's twitter comments pretty much confirm that. Darren's [completely linear] script was set in the 80s and ended with
Wolverine sitting in a Japanese prison cell. No cliffhanger. No lead-in. Just a broken man yet again locked away.
If this was entirely a pre X1 film Mangold would have said oh our story takes place In 15 year timeframe between wolverine losing his memory and meeting
Rogue.We may get a glimpse of post trilgy world to lead Into future we will
see In Days of future Past as ending of the Wolverine.
I also have feeling they changed Viper Into somekind of mutant so she can be
like wolverine appearing the same age In multiple settings.
The question also Is are scenes of bearded scruffy Wolverine part of film's
main timeframe or will we see 2 past sequenzes of wolverine set before the
film's main time frame.Perhapes showing Wolverine encounting Viper at 2
different times In his life before the main story In Japan.
It may be till next july as the film Is about to open we get final concrete
answers about the complete time frame of The Wolverine.
A liner set In 1980's take could have been done and been great.
Wolverine will most likely be the time traveler in DOFP. By linking this film to DOFP you build anticipation & since Wolverine is in this film you can kill two birds with one stone.
If Mangold's story blatantly sets the film post-X3, you can begin to show how the world fell after the assassination/event.
Maybe the film ends with Sentinels or some clear lead-in to DOFP like Mjolnir in IM2 or The Cosmic Cube in Thor.
Again, I'd prefer Aronofsky's Kubrickian one-off, but I have a strong feeling we're not getting it. Mangold's twitter comments pretty much confirm that. Darren's [completely linear] script was set in the 80s and ended with
Wolverine sitting in a Japanese prison cell. No cliffhanger. No lead-in. Just a broken man yet again locked away.
I'd have had no problem with a linear - and far more 'arthouse' - story that didn't necessarily connect to any of the other films or set up any future films, but I don't like the ending you posted from the Aronofsky script.
Fingers crossed that Mangold is still aiming for some artistic value in the production, and that perhaps Bryan Singer has given his approval to what they are now doing.
A thematic concept is essential - even the much-reviled X3 managed that while XMO: Wolverine didn't.
I'd have had no problem with a linear - and far more 'arthouse' - story that didn't necessarily connect to any of the other films or set up any future films,but I don't like the ending you posted from the Aronofsky script.
Danoyse mentioned script reviews are okay, but I'm wondering if her idea of a script review is something very brief/vague. This is 15 pages and nearly 4000 words. Its more an outline than a script review.
Danoyse mentioned script reviews are okay, but I'm wondering if her idea of a script review is something very brief/vague. This is 15 pages and nearly 4000 words. Its more an outline than a script review.
I remember David Benioff's Wolverine Origins script/first draft. Now that had the makings of a damn fine movie, the ending was especially so much better and poignant.
I remember David Benioff's Wolverine Origins script/first draft. Now that had the makings of a damn fine movie, the ending was especially so much better and poignant.
Too much fantasy and sci-fi. The minimalist approach to Wolverine is the best. Aronofsky's approach is very minimalist. The screenplay is like a mesh of DRIVE and OLDBOY with a hint of KILL BILL & BATMAN BEGINS.
I don't know what draft you're talking about, but the version I read was pretty much Barry Windsor-Smiths Weapon X come to life, and they did ground it a fair bit. Making him born in the 50s instead of the mid 19th century, reducing him to only serving in Vietnam, cutting back on the number of mutants, no Team-X. Really, the only two bits that were "out there" was the Blob, and the fact that Weapon 11 was a squadron of clones.
Everything else seemed like a great prequel to what we saw in X-2.
I don't know what draft you're talking about, but the version I read was pretty much Barry Windsor-Smiths Weapon X come to life, and they did ground it a fair bit. Making him born in the 50s instead of the mid 19th century, reducing him to only serving in Vietnam, cutting back on the number of mutants, no Team-X. Really, the only two bits that were "out there" was the Blob, and the fact that Weapon 11 was a squadron of clones.
Everything else seemed like a great prequel to what we saw in X-2.
The 06/01/06 draft I read wasn't that much closer to Weapon X by Barry Windsor-Smith. Wolverine had some flashbacks while they injected the adamantium in his body and he killed a pack of wolves in the snow, but that's all (as far as I recall). Wolverine quicky escaped from the Weapon X facility, wasn't brainwashed and he still lost his memory to an adamantium bullet.
That's really depressing. He wrote the new Total Recall? What were they thinking?? The way it sounds, the original script would have been a seriously dark twisted film.
But hang on a moment. I think The Wolverine will almost certainly 'stand alone' from X-Men Origins: Wolverine and was probably intended to stand alone from the First Class/DoFP series.
But since then we've had Rothman going and now Mark Millar coming on board to help build a 'shared universe.' If The Wolverine is going to be part of that, it must be 'sharing' something with the rest of the franchise by having a link of some kind.
Just saying that we cannot be 100 per cent certain - especially with Millar just coming on board - that The Wolverine will be an entirely separate entity.
On a note of comic book accuracy, it's also interesting that Alexei Belyakov, during his lament on here for the loss of Aronofsky and arrival of Mangold, mentioned that the script at that stage did have the comic book costume and mask in it. I can't see Millar wanting to pass up the opportunity to ensure those elements are included.
It could well be that Logan is forced to embrace the animal side (just as Batman embraced the bat/shadows) and don a costume for some sort of ritual (hunt? battle?) to separate his bestial nature from his human side. That could be a cool way of the Japanese training attempting to isolate his animalistic/berserker aspect from his human self.
This already feels like an instant classic action sequence. I'm imagining a funeral being interrupted by Wolverine or the ninjas, a huge fight breaks out. Wolverine slaughters these guys as Silver Samurai watches waiting to make his first move.
There was no funeral in Aronofsky's draft & I'm sure the men in black are all Yakuza.
the ninja in the script are all part of The Hand & hide their faces throughout most of the film. When they fight Wolverine, their faces aren't visible.
The stuff with Viper is all new to me, but the garden sequence sounds very similar to
when Wolverine first meets Ogun
.
All in all, as long as Mangold keeps this film bloody and brutal, I'm happy.
Mariko basically represents shelter for him & stillness. His scenes with her are quiet & calm. No sex, no liquor, no tension. Its always daytime when he's with her - literally.
With Yukio, its all about chaos & losing control. They have sex many times. Rough sex. They chug Saki together. They plan murders together & she gets aroused when he kills. Their relationship is morbid. There's a scene where Yukio molests & eventually seduces a random Japanese woman on a Tokyo train while Logan watches. She does it to arouse him. Its quite graphic and disturbing. His scenes with her are always at night - literally.
So its basically a very well-written ying & yang. Each woman represents an aspect of him: Mariko is control, Yukio is chaos.
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The way it sounds, the original script would have been a seriously dark twisted film.
