The Atheism Thread - Part 7

[serendipity]

I feel like a good chunk of Christian misogyny would fade away if Christians were not so intent on reading out of context and putting Bible verses in practice.

There's a new pastor at the church I grew up in, and he doesn't allow women to teach the Bible if a man is present in the room. Due to a verse in one of Paul's letters where he says a woman shouldn't exercise authority over a man.

 

[KevanG]

Obviously he's been single all his life.

*runs*

 

[regwec]

I think that some Christians are misogynistic and homophobic because the bible endorses those views, while other misogynistic and homophobic people merely hide behind the mask of Christianity so that their prejudices cannot be challenged.

The result is the same, whether the hate or the religion came first.

 

[MrsKent26]

I feel like a good chunk of Christian misogyny would fade away if Christians were not so intent on reading out of context and putting Bible verses in practice.

There's a new pastor at the church I grew up in, and he doesn't allow women to teach the Bible if a man is present in the room. Due to a verse in one of Paul's letters where he says a woman shouldn't exercise authority over a man.

Ugh. That would infuriate me. There are many reasons I don't go to church and this is one of them. This is damaging towards women. Christians claim God loves us all and yet he's fine with his pastors doing this to people he supposedly loves? I don't get it.

 

[Marvolo]

Ugh. That would infuriate me. There are many reasons I don't go to church and this is one of them. This is damaging towards women. Christians claim God loves us all and yet he's fine with his pastors doing this to people he supposedly loves? I don't get it.

Well God loves us all but women arent on the same tier as men...duh.


" Lo women, hear your God and heed! Thou shall not forsake the kitchen. For the kitchen is good. It is good to tend it."

 

[serendipity]

Ugh. That would infuriate me. There are many reasons I don't go to church and this is one of them. This is damaging towards women. Christians claim God loves us all and yet he's fine with his pastors doing this to people he supposedly loves? I don't get it.

I don't know, it's just frustrating because in my experience, I've known some incredible, fascinating Christian women, and they deserve to be heard more than certain upstanding Christian men I've met.

 

[Hotwire]

I feel like a good chunk of Christian misogyny would fade away if Christians were not so intent on reading out of context and putting Bible verses in practice.

There's a new pastor at the church I grew up in, and he doesn't allow women to teach the Bible if a man is present in the room. Due to a verse in one of Paul's letters where he says a woman shouldn't exercise authority over a man.

I wonder how that would work for him if his day job boss was a woman?

 

[MrsKent26]

Well God loves us all but women arent on the same tier as men...duh.


" Lo women, hear your God and heed! Thou shall not forsake the kitchen. For the kitchen is good. It is good to tend it."

I don't know, it's just frustrating because in my experience, I've known some incredible, fascinating Christian women, and they deserve to be heard more than certain upstanding Christian men I've met.

It really is unfortunate and is one of the many things I find illogical about the Bible.

I wonder how that would work for him if his day job boss was a woman?

My guess is it would involve a lot of passive-aggressive "Gee, the boss is so cranky today...it must be PMS" stuff.

 

[serendipity]

Those evil fruit-eaters can't tell me what to do.

 

[MrsKent26]

This makes me wonder how Christian people who have more progressive views of women are treated by other Christians. Someone who claimed to be a Christian and somewhat of a feminist posted here the other day and even agreed with me about how the Bible views women at times. As I said before, there are different types of Christians and some choose not to take everything in the Bible the same way as others. So I wonder how Christians who believe everything in the Bible is fact and think of women in the same way as that pastor serendipity brought up (essentially that women are second class citizens) treat Christians that call themselves feminists? If any Christian feminists are brave enough to come in here and answer that, I'd appreciate it.

 

[Marvolo]

This makes me wonder how Christian people who have more progressive views of women are treated by other Christians. Someone who claimed to be a Christian and somewhat of a feminist posted here the other day and even agreed with me about how the Bible views women at times. As I said before, there are different types of Christians and some choose not to take everything in the Bible the same way as others. So I wonder how Christians who believe everything in the Bible is fact and think of women in the same way as that pastor serendipity brought up (essentially that women are second class citizens) treat Christians that call themselves feminists? If any Christian feminists are brave enough to come in here and answer that, I'd appreciate it.

I was raised Baptist and for a long time acted like a good christian, and actually was a pretty good christian. After I turned 18 tho I started letting the curtain drop and showing more of who I really was and discovering my own ideas and beliefs.

From my own personal experience, when I disagree with Paul or stuff in the bible fundamentalists give me an exasperated look or a look of pity. They pity our damned free thinking souls. My family just thinks Im strange or a radical liberal.

 

[MrsKent26]

From my own personal experience, when I disagree with Paul or stuff in the bible fundamentalists give me an exasperated look or a look of pity. They pity our damned free thinking souls.

That is...unfortunate.

If it's any consolation...as a woman, I appreciate folks who disagree with those views.

 

[Marvolo]

That is...unfortunate.

If it's any consolation...as a woman, I appreciate folks who disagree with those views.

Luckily I was blessed with a loving family who love me and care for me even tho they completely disagree with my religious and political views. It gave me a safe environment to question the status quo and think differently. So while Im a blacksheep Im a loved blacksheep.

 

[MrsKent26]

Luckily I was blessed with a loving family who love me and care for me even tho they completely disagree with my religious and political views. It gave me a safe environment to question the status quo and think differently. So while Im a blacksheep Im a loved blacksheep.

I have a similar relationship with my Aunt and Uncle. They are very religious and try to get my to join. However, they are nice people and never refer to me as a "sinner" or anything. I'll never come around, but I know they just want what they think is best for me. Normally, I find attempts to make a believer out of me offensive, but they do it with such love that I can't bring myself to be offended.

 

[regwec]

Here's a question: why did God put my nuts exactly where friendly dogs like to jump in with their paws?

 

[KevanG]

Cause that's the same spot that many creatures have them.

EVOLUTION MUTHA******!

 

[MrsKent26]

People aren't supposed to ask that question. It's part of God's plan!

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Because if the balls were anywhere else, the Jesus would cry. You don't want that...do ya

 

[KevanG]

God is a terrible engineer though. What genius decides to make the eating, breathing and water tubes all in the same place? You eat too much too fast you get a blockage which stops you from breathing. You get a bit of water in your lungs, you stop breathing. Yeesh, it's a terrible design.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

He took us out of the oven before we were done

 

[serendipity]

Here's a question: why did God put my nuts exactly where friendly dogs like to jump in with their paws?

I'm really glad you brought this up, because I was thinking about that today.

All I can say is mind your surroundings.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

Here's a question: why did God put my nuts exactly where friendly dogs like to jump in with their paws?

Because shut up, god sez so.

 

[Picard Sisko]

God is a terrible engineer though. What genius decides to make the eating, breathing and water tubes all in the same place? You eat too much too fast you get a blockage which stops you from breathing. You get a bit of water in your lungs, you stop breathing. Yeesh, it's a terrible design.

It's a terrible design from a creationist standpoint, but an incredible one from an evolutionary one. We're so perfect yet so imperfect at the same time. We're very complex (as it took thousands upon thousands of years for evolution into what we are now) but so much can go wrong with our bodies in terms of sickness or physical injury.

 

[KevanG]

That's what I'm saying. Intelligent Design, MY ASS!

 

[Picard Sisko]

That's what I'm saying. Intelligent Design, MY ASS!

There is really just no evidence for creationism, so I think at some point more people will be accepting of evolution. Sadly about 1/3 of the American population does not accept that, and I hope that future generations will be more educated about this.

I've been learning a lot about ancient religions and mythology in my art history course and, in my opinion, it really puts things into perspective. Are modern religions really all that different from the ones that ancient civilizations lived by?