Infinity War The Avengers: Infinity War Part I & II The Official News and Speculation Thread

[terry78]

So we get a live action Capcom Marvel Super Heroes scenario.

 

[SwiftFox]

I could totally see the Soul Gem turning up in Dr. Strange.

 

[ernesth100]

Why would an infinity stone show up in Spider-Man? It would make much more sense for the remaining infinity stones to show up in Dr. Strange and GOTG2.

I'm thinking a villain uses it to boost their powers. Maybe Mysterio uses the Time or Soul Gem to boost his magic and make it real. Maybe if they choose Kraven or Vulture they try to get the time gem to make themselves immortal but have to fight Spider-Man to get it.

 

[Mike5575]

I'm thinking a villain uses it to boost their powers. Maybe Mysterio uses the Time or Soul Gem to boost his magic and make it real. Maybe if they choose Kraven or Vulture they try to get the time gem to make themselves immortal but have to fight Spider-Man to get it.

It just wouldn't make sense for yet another infinity stone to be found on Earth. Marvel should save the remaining infinity stones for the more cosmic films. Besides, Spiderman isn't powerful enough to fight off a villain powered by an infinity stone.

 

[Vartha]

My BIGGEST curiosities are whether we see Adam and how they save Vision since the Mind stone is on his forehead.
I'm assuming the Mind stone is keeping Vision alive.

 

[Godzillasaurus]

I'm thinking a villain uses it to boost their powers. Maybe Mysterio uses the Time or Soul Gem to boost his magic and make it real. Maybe if they choose Kraven or Vulture they try to get the time gem to make themselves immortal but have to fight Spider-Man to get it.

The problem with Spiderman is that the story and villains are very insignificant in the larger scheme of things, sort of like the first few Ironman villains (in the films). Vulture is basically just Falcon lacking the moral aspect, while Kraven is, well, a hunter.

Let the stones go higher than that, for villains more along the likes of Ronan and such

 

[Iceman]

An Infinity Stone doesn't quite fit a Spidey story, they're usually smaller and more intimate than that.

 

[Lilbaz]

An Infinity Stone doesn't quite fit a Spidey story, they're usually smaller and more intimate than that.

The time stone could be aunt mays wedding ring. She doesn't know it but wonders how she is always on time for things even if leaving half hour late.

 

[Lilbaz]

My BIGGEST curiosities are whether we see Adam and how they save Vision since the Mind stone is on his forehead.
I'm assuming the Mind stone is keeping Vision alive.

Ultron didn't need it to be alive. Think when it gets taken he will turn white.

 

[Iceman]

The time stone could be aunt mays wedding ring. She doesn't know it but wonders how she is always on time for things even if leaving half hour late.

I never thought of that!

 

[iconbadgta]

The whole Infinity Stones existence is a puzzle really.

We are told in GOTG that before creation itself, there where 6 singularities.

What the **** is a singularity exactly? A solar system like the milky way? A planet like Asgard? Midgard?

Then before that in Thor 2 we are told by Odin that there are "relics" that predate the known universe itself. Also Odin tells us that "Malakeith created the Aether"!

Also we have the comics on top of that saying that the 6 stones came from some kind of "being' that was the only thing in existence, became lonely, and self destructed into the 6 stones.

Then after all of these stories we have the creation story of the 4 beings. Death, Infinity, Eternity, and Entropy, creating the stones.

So who exactly made them or how did they end up where they did? Talk about one helluva movie that could be made explaining all of it up until we saw the first stone appear. Jeez.

That is whats confusing. They could have any way they wish to debut a new stone if they want but until they can somehow explain their creation then people like myself are lost with it and can only except they exist and have powers.

I really do wish that there was better explanation of these relics of immense power. I mean truly, these are the most powerful things in the MCU.

The whole theories and debates over these have seriously gotten escalated at times. I remember vividly a battle of Loki's Scepter and whether it indeed had a stone. I showed various proofs i found from the first Avengers showing how it was indeed a stone inside yet people still argued and fought until the point they were making blogs to deceive others!

I hope one day that Marvel, in their infinite wisdom will find one final perfect way to show the stones creation and how they came to be.

Also Thanos cannot, and shouldn't be able to unite all 6 in Infinity Wars. If a person literally has all 6 in the gauntlet then they are truly a God. No person no matter how powerful they are could defeat someone with such Omnipotence.

Your thoughts?

 

[KINGTHANOS]

The whole Infinity Stones existence is a puzzle really.

We are told in GOTG that before creation itself, there where 6 singularities.

What the **** is a singularity exactly? A solar system like the milky way? A planet like Asgard? Midgard?

Then before that in Thor 2 we are told by Odin that there are "relics" that predate the known universe itself. Also Odin tells us that "Malakeith created the Aether"!

Also we have the comics on top of that saying that the 6 stones came from some kind of "being' that was the only thing in existence, became lonely, and self destructed into the 6 stones.

Then after all of these stories we have the creation story of the 4 beings. Death, Infinity, Eternity, and Entropy, creating the stones.

So who exactly made them or how did they end up where they did? Talk about one helluva movie that could be made explaining all of it up until we saw the first stone appear. Jeez.

That is whats confusing. They could have any way they wish to debut a new stone if they want but until they can somehow explain their creation then people like myself are lost with it and can only except they exist and have powers.

I really do wish that there was better explanation of these relics of immense power. I mean truly, these are the most powerful things in the MCU.

The whole theories and debates over these have seriously gotten escalated at times. I remember vividly a battle of Loki's Scepter and whether it indeed had a stone. I showed various proofs i found from the first Avengers showing how it was indeed a stone inside yet people still argued and fought until the point they were making blogs to deceive others!

I hope one day that Marvel, in their infinite wisdom will find one final perfect way to show the stones creation and how they came to be.

Also Thanos cannot, and shouldn't be able to unite all 6 in Infinity Wars. If a person literally has all 6 in the gauntlet then they are truly a God. No person no matter how powerful they are could defeat someone with such Omnipotence.

Your thoughts?

Have you read Infinity Gauntlet? Thanos, indeed, does become God and only loses because he defeats himself, no one out powers or even outsmarts him. He lowers his power on purpose to give the heroes a fighting chance for his own entertainment and to court Mistress Death, and only loses because he transforms into celestial deity form, like Eternity, and leaves his body vulnerable.

I expect him to be defeated the same way in the movie, but no hero, or combined force could even dent him. He single-handedly destroys every cosmic force opposing him including Galactus, Kronos, and Eternity. In the end the Thanos should go down as one of the greatest characters to be translated on the silver screen, as long as Marvel sticks to Jim Starlin's inspiration.

 

[iconbadgta]

But that's the whole point. They're not sticking to the comic versions.

That's why there is the whole question of what story is true when it comes to the creation of the Infinity Stones.

Personally i think 2 gauntlets where thought up so that 2 separate beings will duel at the end with separate stones. Makes sense.

But still there is HUGE gaps of things still left unexplained that i like many others would love to see explained. Like the creation of the stones themselves.

I honestly don't see death making an appearance. I truly don't

 

[HunBoy]

Interesting

https://instagram.com/p/7x2IkJO_0o/

 

[Godzillasaurus]

Eh, I would rather just have all of the heroes facing-off against Thanos.

But that's still a neat concept

 

[Sleiek]

I think that would be really cool and I prefer that actually.

The problem with Age of Ultron, even though I loved it more than most people, is that I went in expecting heavy losses and ultimate sacrifices. The Avengers death scene turned out to be a dream sequence. In the end, it didn't turn out to be as dark as I expected.

If that dream sequence ends up actually happening (atleast partially) in the Infinity War movies, it would be truly epic and emotional and massive. I love the Avengers, but it would be more powerful to watch each Avenger making the ultimate sacrifice. I wouldn't mind if everyone dies until the last Avenger who manages to defeat Thanos. This is just my opinion. Also, if they are not planning to make more Avengers/solo films after Infinity War, then this sounds better.

 

[Mjölnir]

I think that would be really cool and I prefer that actually.

The problem with Age of Ultron, even though I loved it more than most people, is that I went in expecting heavy losses and ultimate sacrifices. The Avengers death scene turned out to be a dream sequence. In the end, it didn't turn out to be as dark as I expected.

If that dream sequence ends up actually happening (atleast partially) in the Infinity War movies, it would be truly epic and emotional and massive. I love the Avengers, but it would be more powerful to watch each Avenger making the ultimate sacrifice. I wouldn't mind if everyone dies until the last Avenger who manages to defeat Thanos. This is just my opinion. Also, if they are not planning to make more Avengers/solo films after Infinity War, then this sounds better.

I was certain all along that it was some form of vision since the Ultron story isn't one where you can bring everyone back to life, unlike with the Infinity Gauntlet stuff, and we all knew that more movies were coming. They'd also have to be able to do well in at least the pure fight with Ultron in order to be a match for Thanos even without the gauntlet.

I don't think there's any chance of all the Avengers dying in Infinity War and staying dead either. There will be more movies coming and they won't be relying solely on new characters.

 

[Sleiek]

I was certain all along that it was some form of vision since the Ultron story isn't one where you can bring everyone back to life, unlike with the Infinity Gauntlet stuff, and we all knew that more movies were coming. They'd also have to be able to do well in at least the pure fight with Ultron in order to be a match for Thanos even without the gauntlet.

I don't think there's any chance of all the Avengers dying in Infinity War and staying dead either. There will be more movies coming and they won't be relying solely on new characters.

Yeah, it was pretty clear that vision sequence wasn't probably going to happen in Age of Ultron but that scene at comic con was what everybody was talking about. So there is that expectation even though deep inside you know it was probably not really going to happen.

Regarding the chances, you are probably right because I doubt Marvel Studios wants to finish up everything with Infinity War even though they have the Inhumans thing going on. But it is just a neat idea if they end up going that way atleast partially.

 

[SlamAdams]

We are told in GOTG that before creation itself, there where 6 singularities.

What the **** is a singularity exactly? A solar system like the milky way? A planet like Asgard? Midgard?

Then before that in Thor 2 we are told by Odin that there are "relics" that predate the known universe itself. Also Odin tells us that "Malakeith created the Aether"!

Also we have the comics on top of that saying that the 6 stones came from some kind of "being' that was the only thing in existence, became lonely, and self destructed into the 6 stones.

Then after all of these stories we have the creation story of the 4 beings. Death, Infinity, Eternity, and Entropy, creating the stones.

So who exactly made them or how did they end up where they did? Talk about one helluva movie that could be made explaining all of it up until we saw the first stone appear. Jeez.

That is whats confusing. They could have any way they wish to debut a new stone if they want but until they can somehow explain their creation then people like myself are lost with it and can only except they exist and have powers.

I really do wish that there was better explanation of these relics of immense power. I mean truly, these are the most powerful things in the MCU.

The whole theories and debates over these have seriously gotten escalated at times. I remember vividly a battle of Loki's Scepter and whether it indeed had a stone. I showed various proofs i found from the first Avengers showing how it was indeed a stone inside yet people still argued and fought until the point they were making blogs to deceive others!

I hope one day that Marvel, in their infinite wisdom will find one final perfect way to show the stones creation and how they came to be.

Also Thanos cannot, and shouldn't be able to unite all 6 in Infinity Wars. If a person literally has all 6 in the gauntlet then they are truly a God. No person no matter how powerful they are could defeat someone with such Omnipotence.

Your thoughts?

A singularity in physics is "a point at which a function takes an infinite value, especially in space-time when matter is infinitely dense, as at the center of a black hole." I believe that the Collector is referring to multiple big bangs (creation of the universe) and the stones are "relics" of those previous universes, just like Odin said. I don't remember Odin saying Malekeith created the Aether. I remember him calling it an ancient force.

 

[SlamAdams]

Interesting

https://instagram.com/p/7x2IkJO_0o/

Well, there is two kinds of celestial beings. There are people like Eternity and Galactus. But then there is actually a race of beings called the Celestials. Knowhere is supposed to be the head of one of the race of Celestials in the comic and that same race was featured in the Collector's video presentation of the power stone. I also wouldn't call Knowhere an Easter egg. They straight up say what it is in the movie

 

[Kane52630]

Match 1: shauner111 vs. Black Narcissus
Match 2: Immortalfire vs. Spider-Aziz
Match 3: Reek vs. \S/JcDc\S/

 

[Rorschach2012]

i really want to see the Avengers mansion

 

[Kane52630]

Match 4: sabetoonth vs. Napoleon
Match 5: HaplessHenchman vs. Sawyer
Match 6: Aesop Rocks vs. JP

 

[iconbadgta]

Odin said Malakeith created the Aether in T.T.D.W after he finds the Aether in Jane and explains the history.

So if Malakeith created the Reality Stone, who made the other 5?

 

[Silvermoon]

Odin said Malakeith created the Aether in T.T.D.W after he finds the Aether in Jane and explains the history.

So if Malakeith created the Reality Stone, who made the other 5?

Odin also believes that the Dark Elves were completely wiped out. Odin doesn't know everything and stories can get skewed over time so don't necessarily take his story about Malekith creating the Aether as hardcore truth. Heck, him believing the Dark Elves are all dead is a story that's only once removed - as it was his father that led that battle - and it's a story that's not correct. With how long the Infinity Stones have been around, who knows how various stories around them have been twisted.