The Avengers The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-se - - - - - - - - - - Part 37

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[Kirmit]

The cap suit looks good without the helmet, it just looks dodgy with helmet, hopefully it'll work in movie though.

 

[captainrogers]

The suit does look good.
Especially in that newer shot.
I just thought TFA's was genius.
But in the context of modern day, the new suit's acceptable.

 

[Suzanne78]

Yay! It wouldn't be an Avengers thread if we didn't bring it back full circle to the suits.

It's like we've come home again, y'all!

 

[captainrogers]

keepin' tradition alive.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

This whole thing is one big cycle... We went from discussing the Kree to Cap's suit and helmet. Tune in next week when we revisit 'Should Loki die at the end of the film?' and 'Does Thor look like Bounty Hunter Fabio?'

 

[jaqua99]

absolutely, I don't like how they did Thor's costume though. In both movies. I have a couple things, the hair was too short in Thor. However, its much better in The Avengers. I don't like the leather pants, the pants should atleast be chain mail like the arms as well. His costume is like armor, if they wanted to make it look like current Thor (which I am guessing they did) atleast have it that cloth like material. I think they should have given him chain mail pants, be clean shaved, not a beard, clean shaved. And pleasee, damn given him his gosh darn helmet.

 

[Weadazoid]

http://www.goddessfreya.info/myths/dark_elves.htm


Didn't want this to get lost on the last couple pages of the old thread. The army could very well be Dark Elves of Svartalfheim. The weapon / Staff Loki wields apears to be Elfen or Dwarfen in design. Plenty of strange races have been in Thors books before. Also take note Niflheim was the home of the dragon Nithog and other serpents... who have appeared in Thor ... Leviathen may be found here.

Loki's army may indeed consist of Dark Elves assassins . gansters of the nine realms.

 

[DyeLorean]

I really like how they handled Cap's suit, since TFA. I think it was very original, the explanation and the evolution for it was genius. The suit for Avengers looks amazing, is the helmet that doesn't belong to that uniform, looks weird. It still really doesn't bother me. In some photos looks just fine, but in others doesn't. We'll see how it looks on screen.

 

[Chewy]

absolutely, I don't like how they did Thor's costume though. In both movies. I have a couple things, the hair was too short in Thor. However, its much better in The Avengers. I don't like the leather pants, the pants should atleast be chain mail like the arms as well. His costume is like armor, if they wanted to make it look like current Thor (which I am guessing they did) atleast have it that cloth like material. I think they should have given him chain mail pants, be clean shaved, not a beard, clean shaved. And pleasee, damn given him his gosh darn helmet.

If Hemsworth wore the same material they had on his arms on his legs, for as many months as they filmed, he would literally never have recovered from the chafing

 

[Rock Sexton]

....the helmet that doesn't belong to that uniform, looks weird. It still really doesn't bother me. In some photos looks just fine, but in others doesn't. We'll see how it looks on screen.

I've long maintained it gives him a ***** head or sort of like a Pez dispenser. I remember people used to argue that his ears needed to be "protected" ..... Ok, well what about his nose and the mouth area of his face?

 

[Rock Sexton]

If Hemsworth wore the same material they had on his arms on his legs, for as many months as they filmed, he would literally never have recovered from the chafing

He did say how "stiff" it was to move his arms with that pseudo-chain mail, which you could see at various points in the film. I can only imagine the problems if it were on his legs.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Chainmail pants would actually look ridiculous on Thor. They're not trying to go for the Modern 616 look, it's clearly a combination of various comic looks, predominantly 616 and Ultimates. As much as I like Thor's comic costume, it just wouldn't translate that well into film. They can either go the way they did, picking and choosing to make it alien and foreign, or they go the full fantasy road, with Lord of the Rings style Nordic armour. Since the latter doesn't fit the context of how they worked Asgard into the MCU, it serves fine.

And also, to be honest, leather pants is probably more appropriate anyway. Boiled leather is a common material that would be worn for any warrior in a middle ages type period and we've seen that in most fantasy, period adaptations like LOTR, Game of Thrones, etc.

And personally, I always preferred Thor with a beard.

 

[DyeLorean]

The problem is that in TFA it was an actual helmet. The shape and the material that it was made of looked fine:

 

[craigdbfan]

I love Caps outfit for The Avengers myself.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Chainmail pants would actually look ridiculous on Thor. They're not trying to go for the Modern 616 look, it's clearly a combination of various comic looks, predominantly 616 and Ultimates. As much as I like Thor's comic costume, it just wouldn't translate that well into film. They can either go the way they did, picking and choosing to make it alien and foreign, or they go the full fantasy road, with Lord of the Rings style Nordic armour. Since the latter doesn't fit the context of how they worked Asgard into the MCU, it serves fine.

And also, to be honest, leather pants is probably more appropriate anyway. Boiled leather is a common material that would be worn for any warrior in a middle ages type period and we've seen that in most fantasy, period adaptations like LOTR, Game of Thrones, etc.

And personally, I always preferred Thor with a beard.

How would chainmail pants look ridiculous on Thor? His arms look great and while I think the leather's okay, he'd look more godly and royal with his legs covered in chainmail as well. The way I see it, Thor's going to be in a lot more movies and they've already modified his suit in The Avengers.I think it's only a matter of time until we see the chainmail legs in a sequel.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

The problem with the TFA helmet is it looked great from the side but awful from the front, with those huge eye holes. They fixed the shape of the helmet in Avengers and I think it'll look great when presented cinematically with proper lighting.

 

[Weadazoid]

yeah.... would have been cool to see them shine that one up

 

[Wolvieboy17]

How would chainmail pants look ridiculous on Thor? His arms look great and while I think the leather's okay, he'd look more godly and royal with his legs covered in chainmail as well. The way I see it, Thor's going to be in a lot more movies and they've already modified his suit in The Avengers.I think it's only a matter of time until we see the chainmail legs in a sequel.

Any costume designer could tell you that it would be too much. If you make a clothing feature on the legs too bright or distracting, it draws focus away from the characters centre and face, which is where the actors action takes place. If he was wearing a full suit of armour, that would be different, but simply having shiny chainmail legs would look extremely distracting.

 

[jaqua99]

Chainmail pants would actually look ridiculous on Thor. They're not trying to go for the Modern 616 look, it's clearly a combination of various comic looks, predominantly 616 and Ultimates. As much as I like Thor's comic costume, it just wouldn't translate that well into film. They can either go the way they did, picking and choosing to make it alien and foreign, or they go the full fantasy road, with Lord of the Rings style Nordic armour. Since the latter doesn't fit the context of how they worked Asgard into the MCU, it serves fine.

And also, to be honest, leather pants is probably more appropriate anyway. Boiled leather is a common material that would be worn for any warrior in a middle ages type period and we've seen that in most fantasy, period adaptations like LOTR, Game of Thrones, etc.

And personally, I always preferred Thor with a beard.

yeah I see what you are saying.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

absolutely, I don't like how they did Thor's costume though. In both movies. I have a couple things, the hair was too short in Thor. However, its much better in The Avengers. I don't like the leather pants, the pants should atleast be chain mail like the arms as well. His costume is like armor, if they wanted to make it look like current Thor (which I am guessing they did) atleast have it that cloth like material. I think they should have given him chain mail pants, be clean shaved, not a beard, clean shaved. And pleasee, damn given him his gosh darn helmet.

Since his pants are more blue in the Avengers, I'm guessing they're going for Thor's earliest 616 suit since this is still the early MCU. Just like his armor's evolved in the comics as time has passed, I bet the same thing is going to happen with MCU Thor as well.

 

[DyeLorean]

The problem with the TFA helmet is it looked great from the side but awful from the front, with those huge eye holes. They fixed the shape of the helmet in Avengers and I think it'll look great when presented cinematically with proper lighting.

Yeah, I agree.

 

[Juicy J]

I'm still on the fence about his suit in the Avengers. I'm waiting to see the movie and judge how it works in the actual film, but there are times where I like it and times where it doesn't tickle my fancy. In some shots and pictures it looks rather cheap and plastic-y to me, sort of like pajamas or something. I'll just have to wait and see.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Any costume designer could tell you that it would be too much. If you make a clothing feature on the legs too bright or distracting, it draws focus away from the characters centre and face, which is where the actors action takes place. If he was wearing a full suit of armour, that would be different, but simply having shiny chainmail legs would look extremely distracting.

It's not like they'd add effects to make it shine so brightly that it would be distracting, it would match his arms which imo haven't been distracting at all. Also, Zeus' armor in Clash of the Titans was unbelievably shiny, but it never distracted from his face or performance. Unless the camera is strictly on Thor's chainmail appendages, I don't see how it would be distracting if he gives a strong performance.