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[Danalys]

Bingo. They just did a poor job of showing that in IM2 IMO

it was remarkably similar to fusion experiments really. the haphazard nature of it i can excuse.

 

[Poni_Boy]

it was remarkably similar to fusion experiments really. the haphazard nature of it i can excuse.

I get that it had to be stylized to make it look good, but shirtless Tony without any protective gear 10 feet away from a fusion process made me smh

 

[wobbly]

I didn't see it, they didn't tell me it happened, so I won't account it as evidence. If I do then I could guess a million different scenarios. I'm only using what we were directly given.

I'm not trying for leaps of faith, though, I'm basing a hypothesis on only what we are shown.

Going by what we are shown? Ok, Tony's new element does not resemble any known metal and it's nothing like the Vibranium in Cap's shield. Which, going by what we are shown, was nothing Howard seemed overly interested in (as you said, he had it dumped at the bottom of his lab table). If I am making a leap in faith in thinking Howard's work with the cube inspires his arc reactor and ideas for a new element, you are doing just the same theorising Howard later decided to try and recreate the Vibranium lost with Cap.

Seriously, there's nothing we have been shown adds any greater or less weight to either of our theories.

Neither do we know that it isn't. But Palladium is a metal and Stark needed to replace it with another hyper conductive element.

Tomato, tomato, it looked like a metal to me. Metals are just elements anyway.

What metal have you seen glows bright white (without being superheated first)?

Ed Zackery

I don't get the reference? (I've heard a joke using that name though but can't see how that applies, lol )

 

[marvel_freshman]

Nothing too interesting..

 

[marvel_freshman]

 

[Poni_Boy]

Going by what we are shown? Ok, Tony's new element does not resemble any known metal and it's nothing like the Vibranium in Cap's shield. Which, going by what we are shown, was nothing Howard seemed overly interested in (as you said, he had it dumped at the bottom of his lab table). If I am making a leap in faith in thinking Howard's work with the cube inspires his arc reactor and ideas for a new element, you are doing just the same theorising Howard later decided to try and recreate the Vibranium lost with Cap.

The only thing we are shown is that it is a new element that glows when ignited with particle fusion and rings loudly (just like Cap's shield when it gets hit with kinetic energy)

What metal have you seen glows bright white (without being superheated first)?

It was superheated. That's what fusion is.

I don't get the reference? (I've heard a joke using that name though but can't see how that applies, lol )

Ed Zackery = exactly.

Now we're in Barney

 

[sabetoonth]

wait wait wait are those materila samples from the movie?

 

[itchyscratch]

Why do those cards have fabric swatches on them? All I can think of now is The Mighty Boosh and Howard's elbow patches.

 

[marvel_freshman]

Yep, they're mostly all memorabilia cards.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Why do those cards have fabric swatches on them? All I can think of now is The Mighty Boosh and Howard's elbow patches.

Just like with the Thor and Cap cards 1:25 have some sort of collectible. Piece of fabric, signature, etc.

 

[bunk]

wait wait wait are those materila samples from the movie?

Well how else will we be able to have our sofas reupholstered to match our favorite characters?

 

[marvel_freshman]

Two more. These are printing plates if I'm not mistaken. There's another with the pic of Cap frozen, that we've all seen.

 

[sabetoonth]

Well how else will we be able to have our sofas reupholstered to match our favorite characters?

very very true, Bunk

 

[SpideyFan866]

You know something. Who ever took the captures of the Avengers storybooks pages should have turned to the end and found out who the mystery army are.

 

[mara]

...you mean something an advanced alien race would have at it's disposal?

If vibranium is not native to Earth then its an alien object. The MCU has a tendency to tweak what we know from the comics, sometimes just slightly so this may be wrong but....
We know Caps shield absorbs energy, so they may be leaning towards what we know about the vibranium from Wakanda, and since Black Panther will soon be introduced (yay) I'd say that's a safe assumption. Marvel website says:
"A precious extraterrestrial metal found only in meteor deposits in the African nation of Wakanda and in the Antarctic jungle of the Savage Land."

So, if Stark created an artificial version which I think he did, then perhaps this stuff has some mystical properties to it since its extraterrestrial, and if it is artificial vibranium its doing something we haven't seen before in Starks chest. It glows, its powering his suit and

Spoiler

when Thor strikes him with lightning it gets charged 400% (absorbs energy)

Mystical properties! It seems that we are going cosmic in the MCU, that's why I'm sorta putting this together, just having a hard time explaining it. I see it but can't get the darn words out! lol

EDIT: The fact that vibranium absorbs energy and what happened with spoiler above I think is the clue....

 

[wobbly]

The only thing we are shown is that it is a new element that glows when ignited with particle fusion and rings loudly (just like Cap's shield when it gets hit with kinetic energy)

Well, the sound is no more valid the Skulls weapons making the same whine noise on firing as Tony's repulsors (that one lends weight to my theory).

It was superheated. That's what fusion is.

It was still glowing bright white when he put it in the reactor (generally not a good idea to put white hot metal in a reactor with other sensitive components) and was still glowing later when he put the thing in his chest.
It was obvious he didn't want to directly touch it though (handled it with tweazers).

Ed Zackery = exactly.
Now we're in Barney

Lol I've not actually heard anyone use that outside of Cheadles terrible 'cockerney' in Oceans Eleven.

 

[Danalys]

You know something. Who ever took the captures of the Avengers storybooks pages should have turned to the end and found out who the mystery army are.

the storybook is only the story of loki's capture and ends there.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Buying my tickets tommorow!

 

[Danalys]

Well, the sound is no more valid the Skulls weapons making the same whine noise on firing as Tony's repulsors (that one lends weight to my theory).

It was still glowing bright white when he put it in the reactor (generally not a good idea to put white hot metal in a reactor with other sensitive components) and was still glowing later when he put the thing in his chest.
It was obvious he didn't want to directly touch it though (handled it with tweazers).

Lol I've not actually heard anyone use that outside of Cheadles terrible 'cockerney' in Oceans Eleven.

he can only set it with tweezers. it glows more after it's hooked up and generating power. it's the source of the glow in his chest piece. so yeah the glow isn't from the fusion reaction or heat only.

 

[warcam]

This element (I'm leaning towards the synthetic Vibranium theory, too) may tie in with the images we've seen showing Stark Tower possibly acting as a conductor/source for the alien portal.

 

[Xeno]

I get that it had to be stylized to make it look good, but shirtless Tony without any protective gear 10 feet away from a fusion process made me smh

Shirtless Tony is always a good thing, science be damned.

 

[Danalys]

i like it when they go into hardware mode it's like some souped-up american chopper or something.

 

[warcam]

I have a question: If Tony had never become Iron Man, would Nick Fury have still introduced himself to him, ultimately giving him Howard's "hand-me-downs"? Why didn't Fury give Howard's research work to Tony sooner?

 

[Danalys]

it's government secrets.

 

[mara]

If vibranium is not native to Earth then its an alien object. The MCU has a tendency to tweak what we know from the comics, sometimes just slightly so this may be wrong but....
We know Caps shield absorbs energy, so they may be leaning towards what we know about the vibranium from Wakanda, and since Black Panther will soon be introduced (yay) I'd say that's a safe assumption. Marvel website says:
"A precious extraterrestrial metal found only in meteor deposits in the African nation of Wakanda and in the Antarctic jungle of the Savage Land."

So, if Stark created an artificial version which I think he did, then perhaps this stuff has some mystical properties to it since its extraterrestrial, and if it is artificial vibranium its doing something we haven't seen before in Starks chest. It glows, its powering his suit and

Spoiler

when Thor strikes him with lightning it gets charged 400% (absorbs energy)

Mystical properties! It seems that we are going cosmic in the MCU, that's why I'm sorta putting this together, just having a hard time explaining it. I see it but can't get the darn words out! lol

EDIT: The fact that vibranium absorbs energy and what happened with spoiler above I think is the clue....

What do we call it, Starkanium? lol