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[Poni_Boy]

This whole thing is ridiculous and it started from that silly Odin vs Thanos battle. The fact is this and it's simple to understand: Odin was not born with the Odin-Force. It is not a natural ability, but a power (aka tool) that he uses. Saying Odin vs Thanos is an unevenly weighed in Odin's favor NATURALLY is wrong because they never fought without Odin using the Odin-Force. So if Odin has his power/tool then Thanos can just as easily have his (The Infinity Gauntlet). It's simple.

 

[BigThor]

Wow this sounds like the same kind of crap i got from this guy when i posted a theory awhile back, whats funny is i was the one that got the heat as he was the most well respected member here or some such label, sounds like someone needs to change their screen name maybe "Big Baby" or in the Sopranos vein "Big *****"

I really should shouldn't I, but nah I'll keep it like it is thanks for the "lol" though.

Word of advice, don't call some a "big baby" if you're not mature enough to disagree without resorting to insults.

This whole thing is ridiculous and it started from that silly Odin vs Thanos battle. The fact is this and it's simple to understand: Odin was not born with the Odin-Force. It is not a natural ability, but a power (aka tool) that he uses. Saying Odin vs Thanos is an unevenly weighed in Odin's favor NATURALLY is wrong because they never fought without Odin using the Odin-Force. So if Odin has his power/tool then Thanos can just as easily have his (The Infinity Gauntlet). It's simple.

Thanos...uses...technology...and...biological...e-n-h-a-n-c-e-m-e-n-t-s

 

[The Morningstar]

I think we should all stop arguing and embrace the possibility that one of the best villains Marvel has may show up in these movies somewhere along the line.

 

[shigsy2003]

Now how many more pages are going to be taken up by this very entertaining argument?

 

[Poni_Boy]

Thanos...uses...technology...and...biological...e-n-h-a-n-c-e-m-e-n-t-s

It's still a power/tool that he wasn't born with. Like the Odin-Force to Odin. Sorry, you're wrong.

 

[craigdbfan]

Either you accidentally looked over what I wrote or you're doing some selective reading to make a point.

I get that but that doesn't make it any more correct. Still wrong as he's full Asgardian (alien). It's not as if Odin conceived Thor with a human chick.

Not a huge deal but for those of us who are big mythology fans it will always be a mistake. One can always just kick it off by just assuming that Tony like you mentioned is just being comically ignorant as he doesn't seem to be a greek/norse mythology buff anyway. Not his area of expertise.

Yes it's correct because in the MCU Asgardians do not equal Gods. They are powerful aliens from an alternate dimension. Not Gods.

Norse mythology has nothing to do with it. This is MCU mythology. Meaning, they are right in how they present their story.

I'll try this again. Using the term "demi-god" is wrong regardless if you want to call him a god/alien/inter-dimensional. Neither one of his parents are humans from Earth, both are from Asgard meaning he's completely alien.

If he said "demi-alien" it'd still be just as wrong as there is zero human blood running through Thor in this version.

Is that so hard to understand?

 

[SpideyFan866]

I think we should all stop arguing and embrace the possibility that one of the best villains Marvel has may show up in these movies somewhere along the line.

Agreed. I'm very excited at the possibilty of Thanos.

 

[BigThor]

It's still a power/tool that he wasn't born with. Like the Odin-Force to Odin. Sorry, you're wrong.

I'm not wrong, if Thanos can fight using biological enhancements than Odin can fight using the Odin Force.

Point blank...period

I think we should all stop arguing and embrace the possibility that one of the best villains Marvel has may show up in these movies somewhere along the line.

That we can all agree on, but I stop arguing whenever else one else does.

 

[BigThor]

*sigh* Double freakin' post

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Either you accidentally looked over what I wrote or you're doing some selective reading to make a point.





I'll try this again. Using the term "demi-god" is wrong regardless if you want to call him a god/alien/inter-dimensional. Neither one of his parents are humans from Earth, both are from Asgard meaning he's completely alien.

If he said "demi-alien" it'd still be just as wrong as there is zero human blood running through Thor in this version.

Is that so hard to understand?

Another term for Demigod is a person with outstanding or godlike attributes.

I'd say that describes the MCU Thor perfectly.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Either you accidentally looked over what I wrote or you're doing some selective reading to make a point.





I'll try this again. Using the term "demi-god" is wrong regardless if you want to call him a god/alien/inter-dimensional. Neither one of his parents are humans from Earth, both are from Asgard meaning he's completely alien.

If he said "demi-alien" it'd still be just as wrong as there is zero human blood running through Thor in this version.

Is that so hard to understand?

This.

What Tony stark said was completely and utterly false. It doesn't matter what definition you use or what spin you put on it. IT WAS THE WRONG WORD TO USE.

He would have been better off saying God.

Demigod has alternate meanings but audiences will hear Demigod and think Half-Human, Half-God.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Either you accidentally looked over what I wrote or you're doing some selective reading to make a point.





I'll try this again. Using the term "demi-god" is wrong regardless if you want to call him a god/alien/inter-dimensional. Neither one of his parents are humans from Earth, both are from Asgards meaning he's completely alien.

If he said "demi-alien" it'd still be just as wrong as there is zero human blood running through Thor in this version.

Is that so hard to understand?

And like we said waaaaaaaay back. Take your pick, they're all right:

1) If Odin is the only Asgardian "God" then that makes Thor a demi-god because his mother (in the MCU) is Frigga. A regular Asgardian.

2) Demi-god sounds better than super powered inter-dimensional alien

3) Demi-god also sounds better than God in the context of that sentence

4) Demi-god is NOT just defining the offspring of a God and a human (that is in Greek/Roman mythology specifically) but also: Any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force

 

[MahvelBaby!]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[BigThor]

This.

What Tony stark said was completely and utterly false. It doesn't matter what definition you use or what spin you put on it. IT WAS THE WRONG WORD TO USE.

He would have been better off saying God.

Ex-freakin-xactly t:

 

[Mattallica]

I really should shouldn't I, but nah I'll keep it like it is thanks for the "lol" though.

Word of advice, don't call some a "big baby" if you're not mature enough to disagree without resorting to insults.

thanks for the advice now continue you oh so Mature Rant about how Odin is a REAL god and nobody gets it but you.....

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Been posted?

 

[BigThor]

thanks for the advice now continue you oh so Mature Rant about how Odin is a REAL god and nobody gets it but you.....

Look around...the calvary has arrived. t:

Oh and it's not a rant, I'm merely responding to people that are "engaging" me in a debate so are they ranting too?

 

[craigdbfan]

Another term for Demigod is a person with outstanding or godlike attributes.

I'd say that describes the MCU Thor perfectly.

Fair enough but lets not kid ourselves the term is mainly used for half god/half mortal but I guess this has just turned into a battle of semantics. The word literally means "half god" for goodness sake.

As I said in my initial post it isn't a big deal. It won't stop me from enjoying this movie.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I'm not wrong, if Thanos can fight using biological enhancements than Odin can fight using the Odin Forces.

Point blank...period

Of course he can! And that's where you're missing the point. You said it would be unfair for Thanos to use the IG against Odin. But it's not fair for Odin to use the Odin-Force against Thanos. The Odin-Force is not his natural ability. It's is an augmented force/power/tool. Just like the IG. It's the same thing dude, one is just magical while the other is magic mixed with technology.

 

[Chewy]

 

[The Morningstar]

I'm not wrong, if Thanos can fight using biological enhancements than Odin can fight using the Odin Force.

Point blank...period



That we can all agree on, but I stop arguing whenever else one else does.

If Odin can fight with the OdinForce then Thanos can fight with the IG... and blink Odin out of existence

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Fair enough but lets not kid ourselves the term is mainly used for half gods/half mortal but I guess this is just turned into a battle of semantics.

As I said in my initial post it isn't a big deal. It won't stop me from enjoying this movie.

Same, but I honestly don't see how we're kidding ourselves. The word has multiple definitions, and some happen to describe MCU Thor and his abilities. I don't think Tony was wrong in his choice of words.

I'm just happy that SOMETHING with "god" in it is used to describe Thor.

 

[BigThor]

Of course he can! And that's where you're missing the point. You said it would be unfair for Thanos to use the IG against Odin. But it's not fair for Odin to use the Odin-Force against Thanos. The Odin-Force is not his natural ability. It's is an augmented force/power/tool. Just like the IG. It's the same thing dude, one is just magical while the other is magic mixed with technology.

If Odin can fight with the OdinForce then Thanos can fight with the IG... and blink Odin out of existence

The Odin Force is Odin's power whether he was born with it or not just as Hulk and Cap's abilities, are their abilites a "tool" as well?

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