The Avengers The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-section 12

[Visceral]

is cobie smulders the wasp?

 

[Blader5489]

is cobie smulders the wasp?

No, she's Maria Hill.

The Wasp (and Ant-Man too for that matter) are not going to be in the movie.

 

[Visceral]

that stinks

 

[Majik1387]

At most, they'd just be cameos as they haven't officially been denounced.

 

[Blader5489]

At most, they'd just be cameos as they haven't officially been denounced.

lol, Whedon said they wouldn't be in the movie, that's pretty official.

Besides, they're not going to cast someone as the Pyms before Wright makes his Ant-Man movie. At best, someone might name drop them, but that'll be it.

 

[Majik1387]

Where'd he say that?

 

[bored]

Last year. I think it was during SDCC.

 

[aandfrugby25]

Marvel does love their cameos

 

[BigThor]

Another thing I thought weird at the time was Nick Fury being posed as though he was part of the Avengers. Now this is just my opinion, but in the Avengers I think his involvement should be more of their handler rather than part of the team. I think that if we are going to see Fury in any kind of action it should be in his own Fury/Sheild film.

Also, apart from that I would like to see the Avengers go independant from Shield. Maybe not in the first movie, but it's definitely something I'd like to see. If Fury were part of the team then that would pretty much void that story.

I agree, I would like for Nick Fury to be portrayed as the handler of the team and I aslo want to see the Avengers break away from Shield eventually.

 

[shogunrua]

Marvel does love their cameos

QFT. But I think after the Avengers movie, they at least can downplay their cameo habit a little. So far almost every cameo they had was to emphasize the Avengers movie. So I think after that movie is released, they'll calm down with their cameos lol.

I'm cool with no Ant Man or Wasp, because I'd rather have them go easy on new characters to intoduce, so they can focus more on the dynamic between the established characters so far, so I'm good with just Hawkeye as the only other major player introduced. Just my opinion

 

[Crimson King]

I hope they keep the cameos coming, even after the Avengers. It's cool to see continuity between pictures. Makes it more like the books when we see characters show up in different stories.

 

[BizarroAids]

I'd like to have a few cameos in the stand alone movies, and not just after the credits. Of course, it would make sense to the GA after the Avengers movie, just have Steve Rogers show up in Iron Man or vice verse.

 

[JP]

If it drives the story forward. . .

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Something I'd love for Marvel to do is to announce their new films through another film.

So before we know a Marvel Universe Punisher film is coming we see something such as a newspaper article which is focused on for a while which talks about a vigilante killing mafia or something like that.

It'd be a brilliant Easter Egg to get... then maybe 2 weeks after the films release they announce it themselves.

Another example - instead of having Marvel go 'we are doing a Black Panther film' have a news report on in the background saying something like "The King of Wakanda has recently announced his first visit to the U.S.A."

 

[BizarroAids]

If it drives the story forward. . .

Well yeah of course. I just meant, if they were going to try to tie-in the stand alone films with any future Avengers sequels, that could be a good way to do it.

But like you, I don't want just a cameo of Steve just for the hell of it.

 

[JP]

Yeah, I don't want any distractions.

 

[WildcatNC]

Something I'd love for Marvel to do is to announce their new films through another film.

So before we know a Marvel Universe Punisher film is coming we see something such as a newspaper article which is focused on for a while which talks about a vigilante killing mafia or something like that.

It'd be a brilliant Easter Egg to get... then maybe 2 weeks after the films release they announce it themselves.

Another example - instead of having Marvel go 'we are doing a Black Panther film' have a news report on in the background saying something like "The King of Wakanda has recently announced his first visit to the U.S.A."

They sort of did in IM II. Look at the world map when Stark and Fury are talking. Notice where the circles are.

One over East Africa, one smack in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Its others that are targeted for the Avengers Initiative.

 

[Aztec]

I agree, I would like for Nick Fury be portrayed as the handler of the team

Yup. He should be the "godfather" if you will along with his sidekicks Coulson and Hill. They can get a little action in the film too, but not along side the Avengers.

I'd certainly be open to having Black Widow and Hawkeye fight along side the Big 4 in the finale. Perhaps they could join the fight in direct opposition to orders from Fury? This could show their growing heroism and desire to not simply be black ops agents. This was all covered in The Ultimates too. I think it can be a nice angle to work from.

A final battle involving Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America, Black Widow, and Hawkeye would be pretty darn epic!

 

[WildcatNC]

Yup. He should be the "godfather" if you will along with his sidekicks Coulson and Hill. They can get a little action in the film too, but not along side the Avengers.

I'd certainly be open to having Black Widow and Hawkeye fight along side the Big 4 in the finale. Perhaps they could join the fight in direct opposition to orders from Fury? This could show their growing heroism and desire to not simply be black ops agents. This was all covered in The Ultimates too. I think it can be a nice angle to work from.

A final battle involving Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America, Black Widow, and Hawkeye would be pretty darn epic!

I'm pretty sure thats what we'll get for the most part.

I've never seen Fury billed as an actual "member" of Avengers, just a star in the movie.

I think all the Shield heavy hitters will get in on the action in the movie. Who knows to what extent though.

 

[Blader5489]

They sort of did in IM II. Look at the world map when Stark and Fury are talking. Notice where the circles are.

One over East Africa, one smack in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Its others that are targeted for the Avengers Initiative.

Speaking of which, was it ever explained what the spots in Europe and the lower half of the Atlantic were corresponding to?

 

[BizarroAids]

Not in the movie itself, but if you ever listen to Jon Faveraus commentary he talks a bit about them.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Speaking of which, was it ever explained what the spots in Europe and the lower half of the Atlantic were corresponding to?

Atlantis (was mid atlantic)
Wakanda (was east africa)
Europe (was Latveria)
and Antartica (was the Savage Land)

 

[BigThor]

Yup. He should be the "godfather" if you will along with his sidekicks Coulson and Hill. They can get a little action in the film too, but not along side the Avengers.

I'd certainly be open to having Black Widow and Hawkeye fight along side the Big 4 in the finale. Perhaps they could join the fight in direct opposition to orders from Fury? This could show their growing heroism and desire to not simply be black ops agents. This was all covered in The Ultimates too. I think it can be a nice angle to work from.

A final battle involving Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America, Black Widow, and Hawkeye would be pretty darn epic!

Yes it would, I wonder how Black Widow and Hawkeye are gonna fair against the more powerful villains like Loki etc.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

same way they do in the comics? you don't need super powers to defeat a superfoe. Black Widow is a superior spy and hawkeye is a superior marksmen... 2 qualities that Hulk, Thor, and Ironman do not have. Defeating an enemy isn't always about punching them unconscious.

 

[BigThor]

same way they do in the comics? you don't need super powers to defeat a superfoe. Black Widow is a superior spy and hawkeye is a superior marksmen... 2 qualities that Hulk, Thor, and Ironman do not have. Defeating an enemy isn't always about punching them unconscious.

Being a super spy and a super marksmen won't help you against the likes of characters like Loki. Yeah Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk don't have those things, but what the skills/powers they do have are alot more useful against super powered enemies.