The Avengers The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-section 12

[MadVillainy]

Another Ruffalo film you guys should check out is "What Doesn't Kill You"

It's a Boston crime story that also has Ethan Hawke, it was well acted and had a really compelling story (especially when you realize that its based on true events). The only thing I didnt really like was the ending.

It's on Netflix Instant Stream so I recommend checking it out if you can.

 

[tamron]

i'm not surprised there was tension between him and other people. I can't see him gelling with an Avengers film, which would have been on a very tight leash.

I can definitely see that and it's why I was surprised when Marvel initially cast Norton, even letting him let him tweak the script and being in the editing room of TIH all while knowing that a big Avengers ensemble film was the end game.

I mean, Norton's reputation of not playing well with others in Hollywood is very well-established, particularly with American History X and The Italian Job.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Why are they going out of their way to make the Hulk look like Mark Ruffalo? This was already tried with Eric Bana in the 2003 movie with his features, just bigger. It didn't look that good. I don't want to see the Incredible Ruffalo. Hulk's face always looks different from Banner's in the comics, and his facial features in the 2008 movie was already perfect (even if I don't think it looked completely realistic). I don't see why they need to keep reinventing the wheel. That was one thing they should've left well alone, and just concentrated on giving him more realism than 3 years ago.

The Incredible Ruffalo ..... exactly. Totally with you on this.

 

[Rock Sexton]

This is the part where I mention yet again how much I wish Norton was still onboard.

Hallelujah!

They should have gotten Daniel Day-Lewis. He would have injected himself with real radiation and lived alone in the desert for six months with nothing but a pair of tattered pants.

LOL ..... comment of the year.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I dunno, I think it may have been for the best that Norton left. After watching all the special features on TIH again, he just doesn't seem down to earth about the project at all. He's being all wanky actor, building it into an 'acting project', which I think is stupid. It's largely an ego thing. Look at Chris Evans, he has the same attitute, that it's just a character he's embodying, but he doesn't go on and on about it, he's level headed.

Honestly, having worked with actors like that before, i'm not surprised there was tension between him and other people. I can't see him gelling with an Avengers film, which would have been on a very tight leash.

Really? The level of dedication and downright devotion to the part is not even close when it comes to Norton's Hulk as compared to Evans' Cap. I can't believe you could find anything wrong with Norton after watching those.

 

[Danalys]

the best actors are always trouble for anyone who can't see the significance of things that they can, which is nearly everyone else.

 

[Sarg92]

I dunno, I think it may have been for the best that Norton left. After watching all the special features on TIH again, he just doesn't seem down to earth about the project at all. He's being all wanky actor, building it into an 'acting project', which I think is stupid. It's largely an ego thing. Look at Chris Evans, he has the same attitute, that it's just a character he's embodying, but he doesn't go on and on about it, he's level headed.

Honestly, having worked with actors like that before, i'm not surprised there was tension between him and other people. I can't see him gelling with an Avengers film, which would have been on a very tight leash.

Norton was totally dedicated to TIH. He did a lot of stuff for the film; rewriting the script, helping with casting, directing second units and being an unofficial producer of the film. He did a lot but I guess the control that he and Leterrier wanted was a no go for Marvel.



Anyway, why are they redesigning the Hulk? Banner is recasted with Ruffalo so there is going to be an obvious different physical change but Hulk is a CGI character, he can look exactly the way he did in the last film! Changing the look of Hulk is definitely messing up with consistency in the Marvel Cinematic Universe!

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Yeah, he was dedicated, but for all the wrong reasons. He was seeking to please himself to his own creative vision, he had no interest in the bigger picture that Marvel was working towards. He had his creative vision and Marvel had theirs, and I don't know about you guys, but i'm on Marvels side.

 

[jadejaws]

Anyway, why are they redesigning the Hulk? Banner is recasted with Ruffalo so there is going to be an obvious different physical change but Hulk is a CGI character, he can look exactly the way he did in the last film! Changing the look of Hulk is definitely messing up with consistency in the Marvel Cinematic Universe!

At this point, I'm surprisingly not too worked up about Ruffalo's comments...yet. I mean I assumed that they would use his features into the Hulk for the movie, but you have to also assume that the nose will be raised and the area between the nose and upper lip will be longer. I took it as, they'll use his eyes, proportions, etc. But..they'll make him a Hulk basically. As another poster said, this might not be horrible because Ruffalo has a wider face and jaw.
I posted this in another thread, but do you all think Mark's comments indicate that the Hulk will have similar hair to his? Wavy, longer...?

 

[Kirmit]

Just curious, who would own the rights to TIH's design, Marvel or Rhythm and Hues? If it's the latter and they're using a different company for The Avengers then that could be a reason for another Hulk design.

 

[WildcatNC]

Just curious, who would own the rights to TIH's design, Marvel or Rhythm and Hues? If it's the latter and they're using a different company for The Avengers then that could be a reason for another Hulk design.

Good question. I can't imagine that Marvel wouldn't own rights to the Hulk design though. Weirder things have happened.

 

[Sarg92]

Yeah, he was dedicated, but for all the wrong reasons. He was seeking to please himself to his own creative vision, he had no interest in the bigger picture that Marvel was working towards. He had his creative vision and Marvel had theirs, and I don't know about you guys, but i'm on Marvels side.

I understand what you are saying. To be fair, I think both Norton and Marvel are at fault.

But I do think that Norton was somewhat interested in the bigger picture (Avengers), it was his rewrites that brought in the super soldier theme into TIH.

At this point, I'm surprisingly not too worked up about Ruffalo's comments...yet. I mean I assumed that they would use his features into the Hulk for the movie, but you have to also assume that the nose will be raised and the area between the nose and upper lip will be longer. I took it as, they'll use his eyes, proportions, etc. But..they'll make him a Hulk basically. As another poster said, this might not be horrible because Ruffalo has a wider face and jaw.
I posted this in another thread, but do you all think Mark's comments indicate that the Hulk will have similar hair to his? Wavy, longer...?

I hope that is all that Ruffalo meant and that the core design is still the same as TIH.

With the hair thing, I think the hair will be longer if Ruffalo's Banner has long hair. Whatever Banner has would translate to Hulk.

 

[flickchick85]

That sounds awesome! I don't blame you for not asking about it though. It's one of those difficult things. As much as you want to know, they're asked those questions all the time and they might want to just have a nice regular conversation. But it's cool you talked about Zodiac. What did you tell him about it?

I just told him it was one of my favorite movies of all-time and that I thought he was great in it, and he shook my hand and thanked me, saying it was one of his faves too (and laughed about that sounding biased). He said that he thinks Fincher's brilliant, and he wished more people had seen the film. But yeah, it was pretty awesome. t:

 

[Chewy]

I posted this in another thread, but do you all think Mark's comments indicate that the Hulk will have similar hair to his? Wavy, longer...?

But you're assuming that's how Ruffalo's hair will be in the movie. They could straighten it out. I imagine Banner's and Hulk's hair will look similar but there's no telling how they'll make it look as of now.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Hawkeye & Black Widow

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Oscars - Jeremy Renner on Hawkeye in The Avengers:

* Jeremy have read the script.
* Calls it tremendous, but can't tell a thing about it. It's really massive & undertaking script
* He has a lot of training to do, some big archery lessons for going Hawkeye, haven't seen a costume, Joss didn't showed anything

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Oscars - Mark Ruffalo on Hulk in The Avengers:

* There will be some equally time with both Bruce Banner & Hulk stuff.
* You're gonna see a lot of Hulk smashing stuff.

 

[wobbly]

Just curious, who would own the rights to TIH's design, Marvel or Rhythm and Hues? If it's the latter and they're using a different company for The Avengers then that could be a reason for another Hulk design.

Marvel own the design: R&H, or any other FX house, are hired hands at the end of the day, and no more own the design than any of the artists who work on the books.

That being said the computer model they created could be another matter. I'm not sure if they would be obliged to hand over any of that work to a different fx house, unless that was written into their contract when working on TIH.

So...If another FX house wanted to use the exact same design as was used in TIH, they could, but I would guess they would have to start over with the modelling process.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Mr. Anthony Stark

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

WAYNE vs. STARK!

 

[Doctor Jones]

He looks like he's beginning to grow the Stark hair style.

 

[Doctor Jones]

WAYNE vs. STARK!

"You want to **** with me? You think you know better? You're a ****ing choir boy compared to me. CHOIR BOY!"

But in all serioussness, get a better look and I will **** my pants. I can't believe I said that.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

 

[Dr Lee]

He looks like he's beginning to grow the Stark hair style.

I just mentioned that to my brother...

 

[MadVillainy]

rap beef...