The Batman General News & Discussion Thread - Part 2

[Captain Tired]

I'm also pretty sure Andy and Invader Joker's personalities are diametrically opposed to each other.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

And before anyone says anything, they covered Heath in a Glasgow smile and runny makeup and made him look dingey. He wasn't really "sexy".

You are very wrong. I say that as a straight woman.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

You are very wrong. I say that as a straight woman.

He had rotten yellow teeth. You may have found him sexy but deliberate design choices like that indicate he wasn’t intended to be sexy…

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

He had rotten yellow teeth. You may have found him sexy but deliberate design choices like that indicate he wasn’t intended to be sexy…

I agree that Joker wasn’t intended to be sexy, but Nolan miscalculated here. I've seen a lot of thirsty posts and fanfics about Joker after TDK.

 

[CondimentKing]

Very hard to make someone like Heath ugly. Same deal with Pattinson. The messy hair makes him more attractive. People here should prepare for the world thirsting over Pattinson again like its 2010 come next year lol

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

I think it's being underestimated how horny the internet can get over these characters, no matter if they are trying to make them appear "ugly" lol.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

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Riddler having goons/accomplices seems new, even if as an educated guess we'd all probably figure he's convinced/manipulated some lackeys.

It's not really new. We saw them in set pics last year

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[Invader Joker]

I've seen a lot of fangirls thirsting for Joaquin's Joker too but that doesn't mean he was meant to be attractive.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Batman's journal:

From this point on, I've decided to write down everything I see and experience which might possibly have a bearing upon my nocturnal mission. This journal will be a complete record of my deeds which I can refer back to and a voucher to show the angels when they come looking for me on Judgement Day.


"The film is finished at last - Wonderful grim and dark, as all Batman things should be. I am glad I decided to not work out these past two years. My stunt double is perfect, a thing of true beauty... A face that can shelter me from the world and hide my weary-pale and not very buff skeleton. A face which I can finally stare down in the mirror. I don't like the goth hair, but selfish fanboys and gals will squeal in favor and disgust accordingly. I'm bullet proof now! I'm born again. Bald kids will complain. My catwoman was too urban looking for the likes of a previous Batman director, but she is front and center here, sexy as hell on earth and bloodied into one. Vieweranon divulging all these secrets, two years ago he was getting coffee for Scott Rudin. DC universe is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended cuts and the gutters are full of cancelled DC movies and when the drains finally scab over, all them suits will drown. The accumulated filth of all their promises and expectations will foam up about their waists and all their extended films and old nostalgic diaper wearing Batman will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

I think Bat-Mite is the hottest Batman character. Fight me.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

Riddler enjoys playing games with his victims. Mister Freeze doesn’t enjoy punishing people, he enjoys nothing; only existing to save his wife. Using Freeze in a sequel would provide a nice contrast to Riddler.

 

[BatLobster]

Kinda cool, Bill Finger's granddaughter reacting to the trailer.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Riddler enjoys playing games with his victims. Mister Freeze doesn’t enjoy punishing people, he enjoys nothing; only existing to save his wife. Using Freeze in a sequel would provide a nice contrast to Riddler.

Another reason I want him as the villain in the sequel.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

That Twitter dolt who responded is wrong about TDK. Crime didn’t go up. It was actually way down as the Joker showed up. Batman and Gordon was largely successful at cleaning up street level crime.

 

[Marvel united]

The idea of

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Bruce Wayne dealing with mental illness is very intriguing to me. It's always sort of been subtext, but Reeves making it into actual text opens the door to some new layers to add to his character

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Kinda cool, Bill Finger's granddaughter reacting to the trailer.

She’s cool as hell. And while we’re on the subject; if you haven’t seen the documentary “Batman And Bill”, you really need to. Every fan of the character owes it to themselves to give it a watch. It’s currently streaming on HULU.

 

[AndyTrevino]

I agree that Joker wasn’t intended to be sexy, but Nolan miscalculated here. I've seen a lot of thirsty posts and fanfics about Joker after TDK.

People don't find ASHOSE Joker sexy. Even the few that do deliberately make him less ugly.

I want to do that. I'm tired of this character being glorified. I don't care if I'm potentially gatekeeping.

 

[Scorpio]

How so, if you don’t mind me asking. They are literally nothing alike and have completely different motivations.

Maybe it’s just in my own mind but I feel like visually it would look awesome to have a wintery gotham, mr freeze turning things to ice and then two face in the classic black/white suit. And then Freeze and two-face both having gone through an intense physical and emotional tragedy to make them what they are, losing the person they love (depending on which two-face origin they choose i guess) and then seeking their own vengeance against the ones who wronged them as well as batman.

Maybe it’s a bit of a stretch, I don’t necessarily think they are that similar I just personally think it would be a really cool combination of villains, and I haven’t really seen many batman stories where they interact a lot. I’m biased though cause they’re my favourites and I really want them for the sequel

 

[dhandler01]

I see people are fancasting...

Oscar Isaac should play Matthew McConaughey as Ryan Gosling as every character in the DC universe!

 

[emielaen]

That Twitter dolt who responded is wrong about TDK. Crime didn’t go up. It was actually way down as the Joker showed up. Batman and Gordon was largely successful at cleaning up street level crime.

Some people will say this is “kinda like TDK” or Nolan in general no matter what at this point. It’s kinda serious and is Batman so it’s just a Nolan rehash.

 

[shauner111]

Maybe it’s just in my own mind but I feel like visually it would look awesome to have a wintery gotham, mr freeze turning things to ice and then two face in the classic black/white suit. And then Freeze and two-face both having gone through an intense physical and emotional tragedy to make them what they are, losing the person they love (depending on which two-face origin they choose i guess) and then seeking their own vengeance against the ones who wronged them as well as batman.

Maybe it’s a bit of a stretch, I don’t necessarily think they are that similar I just personally think it would be a really cool combination of villains, and I haven’t really seen many batman stories where they interact a lot. I’m biased though cause they’re my favourites and I really want them for the sequel

Sounds too cluttered for a film. You still want to keep the focus on Bruce and his journey first and foremost. But if Victor is here, you have to also put a lot of focus on his origin and quest too. It's a tricky enough balance to deal with those two. Plus Harvey? It's too much. Harv as a main villain means it needs the attention he deserves for an emotional tragedy that Bruce is trying to help him with. Otherwise you're short changing the character.

You also don't want to throw Selina or Oswald into cameo territory and stop developing them passed The Batman all to make room for more and more new villains. I just don't see it working out.

So for me it's Freeze or Two-Face. Can't have both. But you can have Harvey Dent in some scenes as our new D.A, with Victor as main baddie. It'll make for cleaner storytelling. Even Riddler won't have much screen time compared to most CBM villains. So to keep multiplying that would be a recipe for disaster.

 

[shauner111]

Oscar Isaac was my pick for Hugo Strange before he took on Moon Knight and 50 other roles. He spoke about it recently. If his schedule clears up well by 2024 then hell yeah.

In the meantime Joel Edgerton, Javier Bardem and Willem DaFoe are my favs for Hugo. The ones that excite me the most. But I'm expecting the adequate but boring choice: Michael Stuhlbarg.

Strange appears briefly in Ego. So even if Matt doesn't know him, he'd cross his mind during his preparation for The Batman at least. We'll see what comes of it. I still argue the point that Dr Strange will be dominating the Marvel conversation soon and that might be confusing to then introduce a different Dr Strange in DC's biggest conversation. Plus the name is goofy as hell.

I'd rather see Leslie Thompkins come in as Bruce's warm and caring psychiatrist. If it's a good sized role, Frances McDormund would be the best.

 

[Doctor Jones]

She’s cool as hell. And while we’re on the subject; if you haven’t seen the documentary “Batman And Bill”, you really need to. Every fan of the character owes it to themselves to give it a watch. It’s currently streaming on HULU.

Great documentary!

If I had it my way it would be, "Batman created by Bill Finger with Bob Kane."

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Martha Wayne having a mental illness is very Batman Earth One, where she is literally a member of the Arkham family.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Oscar Isaac was my pick for Hugo Strange before he took on Moon Knight and 50 other roles. He spoke about it recently. If his schedule clears up well by 2024 then hell yeah.

In the meantime Joel Edgerton, Javier Bardem and Willem DaFoe are my favs for Hugo. The ones that excite me the most. But I'm expecting the adequate but boring choice: Michael Stuhlbarg.

Strange appears briefly in Ego. So even if Matt doesn't know him, he'd cross his mind during his preparation for The Batman at least. We'll see what comes of it. I still argue the point that Dr Strange will be dominating the Marvel conversation soon and that might be confusing to then introduce a different Dr Strange in DC's biggest conversation. Plus the name is goofy as hell.

I'd rather see Leslie Thompkins come in as Bruce's warm and caring psychiatrist. If it's a good sized role, Frances McDormund would be the best.

I could see a film with both Freeze & Strange, as they’re both scientists and can connect on that level.