The Dark Knight The Batmobile Thread, Only Better.

[Crook]

The batmobile will be formidable even if its just a Fiat.

Ok. So what's the point in arguing that a sleeker car would not be suitable in displaying the batmobile's physical prowess?

Smaller ground clearance, smaller tyres, smaller dimensions, etc would compromise functionality.
On the other hand, it had uncovered wheels...

The only "bigger" thing about the Tumbler compared to the others, is it's back wheel. EVERYTHING else, is practically the same in size and dimension. If you don't believe me, you can go find the measurements for each of the movie batmobiles. They're all in the same range in both length and width.

Its its sheer size and bulk that matter here. Even if its not that big, it appears huge on the screen and you can actually believe that it crushes that wall and lands on that poor car (TDK trailer).

You can believe it crushes the car because....you see the car being crushed. Simple as that. In BB, you saw it easily crash through concrete, but it can't actually do that.

You replace the Tumbler with a similarly sized vehicle and you achieve the very same thing. Only difference is it's more pleasing to the eye. The Batmobile is big and it's heavy. This is fact. It doesn't need to be made intimidating because if you follow the blueprint, it will follow through in the end.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

^haha yea maybe!

 

[Mr. Earle]

You make some good points. Its the visual of it i suppose. It looks huge on screen and actually like something batman would drive. The B89 couldnt get over a pavement with that ground clearance and it seemed like it was designed to race rather than fight.

Anyway, i am all for anything extreme, innovative and outlandish.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

yea thats a good point about the 89 batmobile not getting up a pavement!! also what if it encountered speed bumps? bottom out!!!!

 

[Crook]

Well obviously some mechanical changes are necessary. There are faults with the Burtonmobile, most notable being that it couldn't even make sharp turns.

But that isn't a result of it being sleek, mind you. Sports car are known for their speed and maneuverability. As I said before, you don't have to sacrifice design for functionality. It's possible to achieve both.

 

[Marx]

Well obviously some mechanical changes are necessary. There are faults with the Burtonmobile, most notable being that it couldn't even make sharp turns.

But that isn't a result of it being sleek, mind you. Sports car are known for their speed and maneuverability. As I said before, you don't have to sacrifice design for functionality. It's possible to achieve both.

The Burtonmobile is a classic. I must say though, the Tumbler has really grown on me. It's going to be weird to see a new Nolanmobile if that does, in fact become the case.

 

[Fenrir]

Well obviously some mechanical changes are necessary. There are faults with the Burtonmobile, most notable being that it couldn't even make sharp turns.

But that isn't a result of it being sleek, mind you. Sports car are known for their speed and maneuverability. As I said before, you don't have to sacrifice design for functionality. It's possible to achieve both.

I think that in the Burtonmobile's case, some design concessions would have to be made to achieve functionality - most notably the car's immense length. You can't have a Batmobile like the one in TAS and expect it to be quick and sharp around the corners.

 

[zmystico]

I can't wait to see how the Bat-pod "constructs" itself, if those pages are real in fact.

 

[Dr. Crane]

no doubt about it, Anton Furst's design for the '89 car is cool... when that movie came out... it was the coolest car ever.. as far as looks went anyway. and that was the way that car was created.... just for the image... i mean ..all you have to do is watch the extras' on the '89's DVD.. they say it themselves.. pretty funny stuff actually. they worked on the car's sculpture for a couple months...almost had it ready to mold... then someone asked.. "how the hell does Batman get in the darn thing?... it has no doors?".... and as cool as the way that the hatch opened and slid forward...it was a complete after-thought... now i love the Tumbler as well...but it's more about the performance of the car...what it was and is capable of achieving.. i feel we have seen the two extremes.. i would love to see a blend of the two..

 

[TH3D4RKKN1GH7]

When I first saw the Tumbler I was shocked by its design, extremely outside of the box. Its all about making sense, which is what I like about Nolan's approach. This thing has to move, and at times through and over things. The old Batmobiles just couldn't do that, I like this look and feel. Its highly manueverable and just totally plows over things, amazing vehicle.

 

[Kaizer104]

When I first saw the Tumbler I was shocked by its design, extremely outside of the box. Its all about making sense, which is what I like about Nolan's approach. This thing has to move, and at times through and over things. The old Batmobiles just couldn't do that, I like this look and feel. Its highly manueverable and just totally plows over things, amazing vehicle.

I would love to drive the tumbler at least ONCE in my life. It's become like a life's dream of mine.. Unfortunately, my chances of that happening are pretty slim..

 

[BatmanFanatic]

I would love to drive the tumbler at least ONCE in my life. It's become like a life's dream of mine.. Unfortunately, my chances of that happening are pretty slim..

Don't give up =) I'm sure there is a way!

 

[Hole Shot]

I would love to drive the tumbler at least ONCE in my life. It's become like a life's dream of mine.. Unfortunately, my chances of that happening are pretty slim..

Make friends with young bat. He has one.

 

[Crook]

I'm pretty sure the actual insides of the Tumbler would be a tad disappointing. It's not going to look like the interior you saw in BB, that's for sure. Most likely bare-bones to the brim, with only a steering wheel to maneuver the vehicle.

Not exactly the most pleasant and comfortable driving experience.

 

[Nepenthes]

When I first saw the Tumbler I was shocked by its design, extremely outside of the box. Its all about making sense, which is what I like about Nolan's approach. This thing has to move, and at times through and over things. The old Batmobiles just couldn't do that, I like this look and feel. Its highly manueverable and just totally plows over things, amazing vehicle.

Me too and like alot of people it was the hook for me going into BB. I'd heard of a "Year One" movie in development, guy who did Memento, Scarecrow and Ra's and all that and I was only casually interested. But the second I saw that pic though, as you say it all clicked, and it was ON. The Tumbler was marketing gold going into this movie.

It's weird how important the role of the car has been in all of Batmans cinema history.

 

[NoTsOsErIoUs]

Anyone remember the Darren Aronofski pitch for Miller's year one, with alfred re-envisioned as a hard bitten grease-monkey mechanic?

Now that would have been strangely interesting to say the least.

 

[Nepenthes]

Fat Al the mechanic? Thankfully they realised that if you're gonna make a Batman movie, you may as well make a Batman movie. Don't warp the concept beyond recognition. We have a hard enough time as it is with teh realizms, imagine if they'd taken it that far!

One thing that's VERY interesting is apparently the concept was initially bought to WB by Frank Miller and.....Joel Schumacher. He wanted to do a hardcore proper movie for all the fans! ha ha. Part of me wishes he was given a chance. They said sorry dude and took it to Aranofsky.

http://www.angelfire.com/comics/superpowers/BatmanYearOneConcepts.html
does anyone know to to open the files on this page in a format we can see?

 

[BatmanFanatic]

Fat Al the mechanic? Thankfully they realised that if you're gonna make a Batman movie, you may as well make a Batman movie. Don't warp the concept beyond recognition. We have a hard enough time as it is with teh realizms, imagine if they'd taken it that far!

One thing that's VERY interesting is apparently the concept was initially bought to WB by Frank Miller and.....Joel Schumacher. He wanted to do a hardcore proper movie for all the fans! ha ha. Part of me wishes he was given a chance. They said sorry dude and took to Aranofsky.

http://www.angelfire.com/comics/superpowers/BatmanYearOneConcepts.html
doesn't anyone know to to open the files on this page in a format we can see?

What!? You can't have it both ways Schumacher! Live in infamy!!!

 

[3goldens]

I'm pretty sure the actual insides of the Tumbler would be a tad disappointing. It's not going to look like the interior you saw in BB, that's for sure. Most likely bare-bones to the brim, with only a steering wheel to maneuver the vehicle.

Not exactly the most pleasant and comfortable driving experience.

It looks like the inside of a very basic stock car. Couple of dials, speed rpm,oil etc., the stick, a huge engine behind your right ear, two seats not much more.

 

[3goldens]

You built it around a '89 Honda Civic! Didn't you!!!???

In all seriousness though this is super-awesome. I bet it's a ***** to drive though, eh?

This looks pretty accurate but there are a lot of things that inconsistent with the actual tumbler but it's surly a cool looking car!

 

[DocOc]

One of the things that intrigued me about the reviews was how someone (can't remember which critic said this) mentioned that we see the Batpod in BB...and that it is part of the Tumbler. So that go the old wires buzzin and smoking...

In BB...there are times when Batman (Gordon did this too to fire the missiles at the train tracks) slides into a somewhat horizontal position as if he were ducking into a small compartment. Batman did it when he needed to navigate through tight spots in traffic. I'm just wondering if what he's ducking into is in fact the batpod (as it would be in the Tumbler). And that this compartment can separate from the Tumbler should the Tumbler become "compromised"..and we see that as the batpod..

food for thought (don't know if this has been speculated elsewhere..)

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ok. So what's the point in arguing that a sleeker car would not be suitable in displaying the batmobile's physical prowess?


The only "bigger" thing about the Tumbler compared to the others, is it's back wheel. EVERYTHING else, is practically the same in size and dimension. If you don't believe me, you can go find the measurements for each of the movie batmobiles. They're all in the same range in both length and width.


You can believe it crushes the car because....you see the car being crushed. Simple as that. In BB, you saw it easily crash through concrete, but it can't actually do that.

You replace the Tumbler with a similarly sized vehicle and you achieve the very same thing. Only difference is it's more pleasing to the eye. The Batmobile is big and it's heavy. This is fact. It doesn't need to be made intimidating because if you follow the blueprint, it will follow through in the end.

Don't agree. The Tumbler gets its "power" from looking like a tank. It maybe small and compact, but much like a power runner in the NFL it looks as if it packs a huge punch.

 

[Crook]

Don't agree. The Tumbler gets its "power" from looking like a tank. It maybe small and compact

But it's not. Look at the thing in scale, compared to a regular person. It's much bigger than you think.

 

[deathfromabove]

I'm pretty sure the actual insides of the Tumbler would be a tad disappointing. It's not going to look like the interior you saw in BB, that's for sure. Most likely bare-bones to the brim, with only a steering wheel to maneuver the vehicle.

Not exactly the most pleasant and comfortable driving experience.

the driver said it was incredible fun to drive. he said it handled like nothing else and i can attest it is very loud in person. the inside was rather bare bones but who is actually going to complain about that when driving it? unless you are the type of person who likes to complain just for the sake of it.

You replace the Tumbler with a similarly sized vehicle and you achieve the very same thing. Only difference is it's more pleasing to the eye. The Batmobile is big and it's heavy. This is fact. It doesn't need to be made intimidating because if you follow the blueprint, it will follow through in the end.

the last two first franchise batmobiles were pretty big and i wouldnt call them indimidating. the furst mobile on the other hand was very intimidating on screen however.

and i think the tumbler is incredibly pleasing to the eye. its the first bat vehicle that actually looks like it can perform the way it does. and i love the fact that instead of looking like a "bat mobile" it looks like a bat with its wings folded up.

 

[Tag279]

I am really looking forward to the movie. And I might add a sleeker vehicle does not have to sacrifice power. Big engine armor plating and some gadgetry would work. I think this would be an excellent template for a new Batmobile.