The BATSUIT Thread

[The Shape]

All it means is that Nolan gave him some tips that were useful for Bale. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll be applicable for the new Batsuit.

We’ll see soon enough.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Give me the actor's emoting eyes over any lenses. I wouldn't change that approach, either. I wouldn't cry if they went back to a darker, black suit, either. I trust Reeves' judgement with this.

I am fine with a dark Batsuit. But I want this notion that we need to see Batman's eyes to die. It doesn't make any sense that Bruce Wayne (the most famous man in Gotham) would want anyone getting a good look at Batman's eyes. It is also not as necessary for the actor to show emotion as some think it is (they can use other parts of their face to do that).

It also makes sense that in today's world Bruce Wayne would have high tech lenses on his Batman cowl (because he's a billionaire), not only to hide his eyes from everyone else, but also because it would have practical uses.

 

[-JKR-]

Yeah, well, I don't want it to die. I wanna see the actor's eyes.

 

[The Endless]

Take a leaf out of Deadpools book and have CGI eyes. Can still emote with them, whilst having them be lenses with a tactical HUD.

 

[-JKR-]

Works for Deadpool.
Wouldn't work as much for Batman. Very different tone.
And as far as Daredevil goes, his eyes being covered symbolizes his blindness.
The live action solution used so far for Batman is the very best one. They even used it in the videogames, and several comic book artists use it as well.
And him having white eyes started out merely as a stylistical solution in comics. It was only later that they added a logical reason for it.
As for the "lens people", just accept that people have different opinions instead of whining about others not sharing your preferences.

 

[The Endless]

I'm not talking cartoony facial expressions like in Deadpool.

But more subtle things. Like a furrowed brow. Or when he squints. Pure white eyes with the black cowl would also give him a more inhuman, monstrous look. Which is ideal for Batman.

I dont know why it wouldnt work for Batman. And it makes sense for him to have some kind of HUD as well.

 

[-JKR-]

Yeah, well, I prefer the eyes for Batman. And anybody who says the eyes being visible didn't add to the actors' performances is dead wrong.

 

[Marvel united]

I'm not talking cartoony facial expressions like in Deadpool.

But more subtle things. Like a furrowed brow. Or when he squints. Pure white eyes with the black cowl would also give him a more inhuman, monstrous look. Which is ideal for Batman.

I dont know why it wouldnt work for Batman. And it makes sense for him to have some kind of HUD as well.

Take a page of Snyder's run & Telltale. Give the eyes practical purpose

 

[Mani-Man]

I think doing it like Deadpool also would give you the chance to get rid of the black makeup around the eyes thing.
I do think that could be done either way but i take any way to get rid of the eye makeup.

But when it comes to white lenses vs Eyes im unsure.
On one hand i want to see the human behind it, but i dont see any reason why he cant have the white lenses at least in action scenes or so.
It makes him look less human, which is the purpose of the costume to begin with.

 

[Doc Samson]

The best thing about Affleck's Batman was the costume and voice modulator, IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing a suit similar to that, I just don't want the tech-y, armor look anymore.

 

[Whatupman]

I'd try to make a suit that is Black & Grey but when hard light hits it you'd get a small blue tint. Makes everyone happy!

To see something like that in live action would be glorious. I had this idea, that what if you take some inspiration from the Wonder Woman suit? Not the material, but how natural the black parts blend into the red parts. If you would just change the red to a dark blue, I think it would look great and it would look similar to how it often looks in the comics and Batman TAS. I'm just not sure how it would translate to another material.

 

[kguillou]

Just take Batfleck’s suit and slim it down, make the ears pointier, slim down the chest symbol, embolden the gold on his utility belt and give him eye lenses. Perfect Batman suit for Pattinson.

 

[hafizbat]

Works for Deadpool.
Wouldn't work as much for Batman. Very different tone.
And as far as Daredevil goes, his eyes being covered symbolizes his blindness.
The live action solution used so far for Batman is the very best one. They even used it in the videogames, and several comic book artists use it as well.
And him having white eyes started out merely as a stylistical solution in comics. It was only later that they added a logical reason for it.
As for the "lens people", just accept that people have different opinions instead of whining about others not sharing your preferences.

It's one thing to have a preference, and another thing to make claims about the exposes eyes being superior for conveying emotion. The latter point is definitely open for debate. It's not whining about others not sharing preferences to argue about that claim.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and just accept that some people prefer lenses, and that not everyone has to agree that exposed eyes are the right way to go.

 

[hafizbat]

Yeah, well, I prefer the eyes for Batman. And anybody who says the eyes being visible didn't add to the actors' performances is dead wrong.

How can we be dead wrong when there's no example to compare? And the bug eyes from TDK don't count.

We do however have characters like Daredevil, Deadpool, Spider-Man, and Judge Dredd that have shown expressing emotion is not a problem at all.

 

[-JKR-]

Batman isn't either of those characters , and Iike the "bug eyes" and the way (and quantity), they were used in The Dark Knight.

 

[Travesty]

It would still look silly on a serious take on Batman. It looks fine on Deadpool and Spiderman, because they're more cartoony in nature. Their environments are bright, colorful, and way more zany. DD and Dredd don't use bright glowing lenses. My problem isn't with the "lack of emoting", but more so with it just looking silly, and it standing out from his environment. If this was a live action Brave and Bold, sure.

It also adds onto the fact of why I want to steer clear of the armor look. I want Batman to look more like a creature of the night, and less like a tech'd out superhero/Iron Man. I rather stick with the animalistic nature of Batman, and not any more needles gadgetry for the sake of introducing more visual tech. I prefer the Batsuit to look more minimalist than busy, and having bright glowing eyes is the opposite of that. Again, I want to get away fro the Iron Man look.

Also, the eyes do emote, so trying to claim they don't, doesn't really jive with me. You can claim it's not a big deal for you, but they do produce emotions.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think it was quite telling that Reeves was watching the actors eyes during the batman auditions. Not to say batman cant have lenses, but maybe he only uses them on occasion.

 

[hafizbat]

It would still look silly on a serious take on Batman. It looks fine on Deadpool and Spiderman, because they're more cartoony in nature. Their environments are bright, colorful, and way more zany. DD and Dredd don't use bright glowing lenses. My problem isn't with the "lack of emoting", but more so with it just looking silly, and it standing out from his environment. If this was a live action Brave and Bold, sure.

It also adds onto the fact of why I want to steer clear of the armor look. I want Batman to look more like a creature of the night, and less like a tech'd out superhero/Iron Man. I rather stick with the animalistic nature of Batman, and not any more needles gadgetry for the sake of introducing more visual tech. I prefer the Batsuit to look more minimalist than busy, and having bright glowing eyes is the opposite of that. Again, I want to get away fro the Iron Man look.

Also, the eyes do emote, so trying to claim they don't, doesn't really jive with me. You can claim it's not a big deal for you, but they do produce emotions.

Valid points, but I don't think it has to look cartoony or silly. For example, Black Panther is far more similar to Batman than Deadpool yet the lenses don't look out of place at all. Furthermore, I think lenses would actually help Batman look more animalistic, depending on how they're done. Of course, glowing Iron Man eyes would definitely ruin that.

 

[-JKR-]

It's one thing to have a preference, and another thing to make claims about the exposes eyes being superior for conveying emotion. The latter point is definitely open for debate. It's not whining about others not sharing preferences to argue about that claim.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and just accept that some people prefer lenses, and that not everyone has to agree that exposed eyes are the right way to go.

I'm not the one whining about how I want ideas to die.

 

[-JKR-]

Valid points, but I don't think it has to look cartoony or silly. For example, Black Panther is far more similar to Batman than Deadpool yet the lenses don't look out of place at all. Furthermore, I think lenses would actually help Batman look more animalistic, depending on how they're done. Of course, glowing Iron Man eyes would definitely ruin that.

Hate the way BP's suit comes across in the movie. Cartoony and artificial. They should have designed and built a fully functioning practical suit, instead of photoshopping over it.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

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Black and grey > All black > Blue and grey.

I could not disagree with you more.

 

[hafizbat]

Most of the arguments against the lenses (not talking about personal preference), seem to be predicated on the lenses not being done well. The idea that they'd look cartoony or out of place doesn't hold water because it all comes down to execution.

And even if we accept that exposed eyeballs convey more emotion, that doesn't mean it's necessarily better or that lenses don't have advantages as well. Lenses can make Batman feel more inhuman, cold, and detached, which IMO suits the character more than showing a lot of emotion.

I think something like this is more exciting than just seeing the actor's eyes. It helps the immersion that this is Batman, for me at least. To each their own.

 

[-JKR-]

To each their own. I find seeing the actors eyes convey emotions as Batman much more exciting. Probably because I care about the character as human being more than i care about the "OMG! Like ze drawingzz"

 

[hafizbat]

I'm not the one whining about how I want ideas to die.

You claimed people are whining about other's not sharing the same preferences. I spoke about the idea of exposed eyeballs conveying more emotion being taken as fact. Stop moving the goalposts.

 

[-JKR-]

Dude, OF COURSE do the eyes convey emotions. That's not even an opinion.

P.S.: I don't fear the lenses not being done well, I just don't think that's the way to go outside of artwork/animation.