The BATSUIT Thread

[Gothamsknight]

I love this suit so damn much.

 

[Boom]

THE CAPE.

 

[BatsAndNights]

THE CAPE.

 

[Sawyer]

THE CAPE.

What am I looking at here? Stand-ins?

 

[antsman41]

THE CAPE.

Pattinson(?) wearing a mask over the cowl looks very BBeyond.

 

[Jekecy]

What am I looking at here? Stand-ins?

Has to be.

With the masks, I'm gonna assume this was at the height of COVID and they were doing test shots for how the The Volume would look as a backdrop.

 

[Boom]

But he's wearing a fully enveloping cape there, is he not? Or am I seeing what I want to see?

 

[ProjectHD]

Not sure if the cape is full enveloping in the pic, but as per the wing suit he can definitely manipulate his cape around his body to his liking. Maybe we’ll see a cloak mode in future films.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I love how sharp and angular the suit is, together with Pattinsons jaw.

Not only is it like a Capullo comic come to life, the sharp edges really sell the menace and violent nature of “Vengeance”, so it seemed perfect for this story.

 

[Quixotica]

This cowl completely ends the white eye discourse for me. The way Pattinson was able to express himself with his eyes was masterful.

Using an in-universe rationale, he's already wearing contact lenses--why not make them all-white? It would just add to the supernatural effect Batman goes for with the costume motif. The only problem would be Pattinson's comfort level (he probably wears corrective contacts but I don't know if cosplay-style gimmicky lenses are different). I wouldn't want it to hinder his performance. But I like to mull the 'what if.'

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Using an in-universe rationale, he's already wearing contact lenses--why not make them all-white? It would just add to the supernatural effect Batman goes for with the costume motif. The only problem would be Pattinson's comfort level (he probably wears corrective contacts but I don't know if cosplay-style gimmicky lenses are different). I wouldn't want it to hinder his performance. But I like to mull the 'what if.'

Pattinson's performance is so heavily based around how expressive his eyes are that there's no way they'd ever cover them up. There are movies where white eyes would work, this absolutely is not one of them.

Also the contacts can't be any more visible than regular contacts or the sequence where Selina uses them wouldn't make sense.

 

[Spoonman]

Imagine still wanting the white eyes on movie Batman after seeing what Pattinson did with his eyes in The Batman.

 

[Quixotica]

Pattinson's performance is so heavily based around how expressive his eyes are that there's no way they'd ever cover them up. There are movies where white eyes would work, this absolutely is not one of them.

Also the contacts can't be any more visible than regular contacts or the sequence where Selina uses them wouldn't make sense.

I think the expressiveness comes more from the eyes', er well, expressions (the shapes the eyes are making) than what the irises themselves are doing. It's somewhat of a compromise but I think putting too much emphasis on Pattinson's great acting solely on the location of his irises is overstating its role in his performance and kind of doing him a disservice. Also he can still have lenses that are transparent that he wears as Bruce that he could have given to Selina, that wouldn't have to change.

 

[Quixotica]

Imagine still wanting the white eyes on movie Batman after seeing what Pattinson did with his eyes in The Batman.

Imagine thinking I want it more than I'm trying to just think of a way it could still work. It's a discussion thread; I'm finding something to discuss. It doesn't all have to be a big circlewank.

 

[metaphysician]

I dont even know why to have a Rubber suit so big.

Affleck is tall as heck and he was on a great shape.

No need for Batman to have a Hulk body-type and he was an old Man, goddamn.

A slim BvS' batsuit would be so great.

Answer: "Because the Dark Knight Returns". The primary goal was "make it look like the one really popular comic we are imitating", without any real concern for story or characterization.

 

[Spoonman]

Imagine thinking I want it more than I'm trying to just think of a way it could still work. It's a discussion thread; I'm finding something to discuss. It doesn't all have to be a big circlewank.

I was not directing this to you or anyone in particular, but OK I'll bite. Nothing of what you wrote seems convincing to me, it reads like trying to force something just to be comicbook acurate, not everything can be translated with the same results as in the pages, and. Again, Pattinson's performane pretty much has cemented that to me..like that scene were he thinks Riddler knows his identity..with some sort of contacts? Not for me really

 

[Jekecy]

I was not directing this to you or anyone in particular, but OK I'll bite. Nothing of what you wrote seems convincing to me, it reads like trying to force something just to be comicbook acurate, not everything can be translated with the same results as in the pages, and. Again, Pattinson's performane pretty much has cemented that to me..like that scene were he thinks Riddler knows his identity..with some sort of contacts? Not for me really

Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. An oft repeated suggestion is to utilize it for when he's in "detective" mode or in need of night-vision. Much like the Arkham games.

The use of actual contact lenses in-universe is just one step away from that idea coming to fruition.

 

[Spoonman]

Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. An oft repeated suggestion is to utilize it for when he's in "detective" mode or in need of night-vision. Much like the Arkham games.

The use of actual contact lenses in-universe is just one step away from that idea coming to fruition.

Yeah that seems like a fair suggestion

 

[DKDetective]

Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. An oft repeated suggestion is to utilize it for when he's in "detective" mode or in need of night-vision. Much like the Arkham games.

The use of actual contact lenses in-universe is just one step away from that idea coming to fruition.

Please no. That does nothing for me. Riddick worked because Diesel isn't exactly the most emotive actor and you aren't losing a ton by doing that.

However, this is a totally different situation. Pattinson is so incredibly effective with his eyes, including during action sequences. We would be losing too much even with the whole detective vision thing. The white eyes in the comics work because they are drawn with the full range of human expression and emotion. It works within the medium.

But there is so many more interesting and subtle things going on with real human eyes in live action. Any lens, contact or otherwise, are a no go for me and hopefully for Reeves.

You can take away Battinson's eyes over my dead body!

 

[chintai80]

Please no. That does nothing for me. Riddick worked because Diesel isn't exactly the most emotive actor and you aren't losing a ton by doing that.

 

[WayneMB]

i'm strictly against the white eyes. The Detective Mode style i'm all for, though. Have Bats turn it on in the sequel to show how much he puts into his detective craft. he can use it sporadically to search for residues and stuff.

 

[Jekecy]

Please no. That does nothing for me. Riddick worked because Diesel isn't exactly the most emotive actor and you aren't losing a ton by doing that.

However, this is a totally different situation. Pattinson is so incredibly effective with his eyes, including during action sequences. We would be losing too much even with the whole detective vision thing. The white eyes in the comics work because they are drawn with the full range of human expression and emotion. It works within the medium.

But there is so many more interesting and subtle things going on with real human eyes in live action. Any lens, contact or otherwise, are a no go for me and hopefully for Reeves.

You can take away Battinson's eyes over my dead body!

By Rob's own admission, it's not the eyes doing the acting. It's everything else around his eyes (like the brows) which limited his ability to emote in the way he wanted to.

Obviously he worked his way around it.

But nothing about the contact lenses (at least the way I've proposed it) hinders anything Rob did in this movie. All it literally does is change the color of the iris and pupil. Now if you're going to argue those are essential to the performance, that's when I'll call BS.

 

[Eddie Dean]

By Rob's own admission, it's not the eyes doing the acting. It's everything else around his eyes (like the brows) which limited his ability to emote in the way he wanted to.

Obviously he worked his way around it.

But nothing about the contact lenses (at least the way I've proposed it) hinders anything Rob did in this movie. All it literally does is change the color of the iris and pupil. Now if you're going to argue those are essential to the performance, that's when I'll call BS.

If Rob said his eyes aren’t doing any acting, he’s wrong about his own performance.

 

[Jekecy]

If Rob said his eyes aren’t doing any acting, he’s wrong about his own performance.

He's not though.

The actual eyeballs aren't doing anything. It's everything else around it; the eyelids, the brows, even the movement of the eyes. Those are what makes up what's referred to as "eye acting".

 

[DKDetective]

By Rob's own admission, it's not the eyes doing the acting. It's everything else around his eyes (like the brows) which limited his ability to emote in the way he wanted to.

Obviously he worked his way around it.

But nothing about the contact lenses (at least the way I've proposed it) hinders anything Rob did in this movie. All it literally does is change the color of the iris and pupil. Now if you're going to argue those are essential to the performance, that's when I'll call BS.

First off, I've seen several actors in heavy prosthetics in the past complain about colour contacts bother their eyes and interfering with their performance. In particular, the sort of contacts you are mentioning interfere with an actor's vision and as we all know how much actors complain about green screen acting, being able to take in the set and other actors affects the performance.

Second, our irises and pupils change based on stimuli. It may not be a big thing, but I wouldn't want to take that away. Your pupils move and follow things around. A director can tell a lot in close ups through what an actor is looking at. An actor whose eyes are starting back and forth between different subjects will appear nervous and anxious. Covering irises and pupils with white contacts would obscure that.

Actually, one of the greatest parts of Schwarzenegger's performance in The Terminator is the way his pupils turn and scan before moving his head. It did a great job conveying a sense of artificial movement and perception.

Also, contacts are notorious for causing eye dryness, etc., I would hate to interfere with subtle things like how Pattinson made his eyes water slightly in sadness.