The BATSUIT Thread

[Marvel united]

Imo the Captain America suits are all too tactical and militaristic. Sure, it's not metal armor plates but it's still too segmented & padded for what I'd prefer for Batman.

Something sleek with an aerodynamic aesthetic. Closer to Black Panther and Spider-Man than Cap or TWS. The Batsuit doesn't have to have the outward appearance of a military combat suit. The tech should be hidden under a textured but relatively simple, sleek design. The patterns should accent the sleekness of the suit

 

[Invader Joker]

Imo the Captain America suits are all too tactical and militaristic. Sure, it's not metal armor plates but it's still too segmented & padded for what I'd prefer for Batman.

Something sleek with an aerodynamic aesthetic. Closer to Black Panther and Spider-Man than Cap or TWS. The Batsuit doesn't have to have the outward appearance of a military combat suit. The tech should be hidden under a textured but relatively simple, sleek design. The patterns should accent the sleekness of the suit

I think that'd look horrible on Batman.

 

[Marvel united]

I think that'd look horrible on Batman.

Agree to disagree. There's really no reason for Batman to look like he's a field commander on a SWAT platoon. The Batsuit in the comics has bolstered a simple design for darn near a century. I'd like to see something that accents the actor's physique while still keeping in theme with "creature" aspect.

Nike's Turbospeed track and field tech is a practical application of the Mezco Batman figure's textures to a real suit



Among other points of reference for what I'd go for

"It's not realistic"- if Black Widow can fight Ultron drones on a giant floating piece of terrain wearing a skintight bodysuit and Black Panther can weave some pseudo science explanation for why his suit can look sleek as it does yet offer 5x the amount of protection for your standard military combat uniform-- then I'm sure the creatives for a Batman movie can come up with an explanation for why the Batsuit is form-fitting, sleek and aerodynamic as opposed to looking like a Soldier's survival kit 101..

In the age of CBMs we're living in now and what's acceptable to the general audience today, there's really no excuse

 

[Blind Bat]

This is a great post but I'm incredibly confused by your decision to use the 2012 suit when the Winter Soldier one not only looks cooler but it was appareantly more comfortable and better for stunts:View attachment 28518

Just look at that beauty. It's begging to be turned into a batsuit. Those materials are perfect.

Eh, it was mostly an oversight on my part. I had other suits in mind (First Avenger, Age of Ultron, Civil War, Endgame, etc) that look more like military uniforms. The Avengers suit was the first one I thought of that had a more "super hero" look to it. But yeah, the entire post would still work if you swapped in the Winter Soldier suit instead.

 

[Invader Joker]

Agree to disagree. There's really no reason for Batman to look like he's a field commander on a SWAT platoon. The Batsuit in the comics has bolstered a simple design for darn near a century. I'd like to see something that accents the actor's physique while still keeping in theme with "creature" aspect.

Nike's Turbospeed track and field tech is a practical application of the Mezco Batman figure's textures to a real suit
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Among other points of reference for what I'd go for
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"It's not realistic"- if Black Widow can fight Ultron drones on a giant floating piece of terrain wearing a skintight bodysuit and Black Panther can weave some pseudo science explanation for why his suit can look sleek as it does yet offer 5x the amount of protection for your standard military combat uniform-- then I'm sure the creatives for a Batman movie can come up with an explanation for why the Batsuit is form-fitting, sleek and aerodynamic as opposed to looking like a Soldier's survival kit 101..

In the age of CBMs we're living in now and what's acceptable to the general audience today, there's really no excuse

The Black Panther suits look god awful especially on his movie though. Also, Batman is essentially kind of a soldier, he wouldn't look half bad or out of place with the textures of the Winter Soldier suits.
And as for the MEZCO figure.. there are ways to do that exact same design with the textures of the Winter Soldier suit, in fact it may look even better than using the Black Panther approach. There's a reason Black Panther and Spider-Man are CGI'd later, and each time they do it looks terrible. Would rather not have that problem with Batman.

 

[Micromind]

BP's suit in CW looked better than in the BP movie.

CW

BP movie

I know some people hate anything associated with CW's DC shows, but I like Taylor Hoechilin's Superman suit, maybe Bat-suit can take some things from it, like the way fabric and muscle suit are designed ?

 

[TheGuy]

CGI suits always look cheap and bad. Hopefully, Reeves avoids that because the BP and Spider-Man suits are ****ing terrible. Any real suit is fine for me.

 

[Marvel united]

The Black Panther suits look god awful especially on his movie though. Also, Batman is essentially kind of a soldier, he wouldn't look half bad or out of place with the textures of the Winter Soldier suits.
And as for the MEZCO figure.. there are ways to do that exact same design with the textures of the Winter Soldier suit, in fact it may look even better than using the Black Panther approach. There's a reason Black Panther and Spider-Man are CGI'd later, and each time they do it looks terrible. Would rather not have that problem with Batman.

Sure, he wouldn't look BAD. But for me, personally? I'm tired of tactical, militaristic suits. I'd prefer they go for something different this time. Something truer in conception to how the suit is presented in the source material, albeit translated and filtered through film.

I also love the QR suits from Endgame as an example of what I'd love to see

And personally, I prefer Panther's suit in the solo as it's a sleeker, cleaner design. The CG in Black Panther was bad because they had to redo the final act in the last minute. That's the only time imo where the CG actually looked glaring shady..

Either way, I don't mind CG suits. Panther's suit in Civil War was CG. The QR suits in Endgame were CG and nobody noticed. I wouldn't mind a Batman suit enhanced by CG and lord knows, Reeves could pull it off beautifully with his background in motion capture technology.

 

[Micromind]

I'm tired of militaristic suits, CGI suits and armored suits, I would prefer a fabric based suit with little muscle padding to highlight muscle definition as long as it's not over-done. As an example I always go to Taylor Hoechilin's Superman suit.

 

[Invader Joker]

Sure, he wouldn't look BAD. But for me, personally? I'm tired of tactical, militaristic suits. I'd prefer they go for something different this time. Something truer in conception to how the suit is presented in the source material, albeit translated and filtered through film.

I also love the QR suits from Endgame as an example of what I'd love to see

And personally, I prefer Panther's suit in the solo as it's a sleeker, cleaner design. The CG in Black Panther was bad because they had to redo the final act in the last minute. That's the only time imo where the CG actually looked glaring shady..

Either way, I don't mind CG suits. Panther's suit in Civil War was CG. The QR suits in Endgame were CG and nobody noticed. I wouldn't mind a Batman suit enhanced by CG and lord knows, Reeves could pull it off beautifully with his background in motion capture technology.

You do realize the QR suits were entirely CGI? They weren't even enhanced, they were a complete CGI creation.
Nah. I'd rather have the acual actor wear something. Pattinson talked about how wearing the suit felt transformative, he should keep that emotion.

I still don't understand what's wrong with a tactical suit like Captain America's. Looks comic booky, but protective and it'd suit Batman really well. Rejecting something like that would just be being stubborn. You talk about that idea as if it's something that's been done to death when we've neer seen a Batman suit built like Captain America's Winter Soldier suit.

 

[Invader Joker]

I'm tired of militaristic suits, CGI suits and armored suits, I would prefer a fabric based suit with little muscle padding to highlight muscle definition as long as it's not over-done. As an example I always go to Taylor Hoechilin's Superman suit.

That suit makes Tyler look notoriously skinny and unimposing though.

 

[Micromind]

That suit makes Tyler look notoriously skinny and unimposing though.

That's because he was like that during that shoot, I suppose he lost some weight as he was shooting two movies (one with Alexandra Daddario and other I can't remember)

 

[Marvel united]

You do realize the QR suits were entirely CGI? They weren't even enhanced, they were a complete CGI creation.
Nah. I'd rather have the acual actor wear something. Pattinson talked about how wearing the suit felt transformative, he should keep that emotion.

I still don't understand what's wrong with a tactical suit like Captain America's. Looks comic booky, but protective and it'd suit Batman really well. Rejecting something like that would just be being stubborn. You talk about that idea as if it's something that's been done to death when we've neer seen a Batman suit built like Captain America's Winter Soldier suit.

Yes, that's why I said they were CG. But i didn't know until the BTS photos came out and I was shocked by how good they looked. That's how you know if the filmmakers succeed. Of course we'd have a physical suit but I'm talking about enhancements to the Cape and cowl.

It looks like a personalized version of a Military uniform. Has the same materials and textures you'd see in your average combat suit- which makes sense, because thats what Cap America is. But we've already seen this approach/CONCEPT taken to the Batsuit multiple times in the past. We'd just be trading metal/rubber plates for a bulky, padded suit. The Begins Nomex suit was literally a rejected survival suit made for the US army.

If that's what you want to see, that's completely fine. But me? I'd like to see a different approach taken here. The biggest priority for me is not whether it looks like it can believably take a bullet and that informs what I want to see quite a bit, when it's not defined by the realism mentality

 

[Invader Joker]

Yes, that's why I said they were CG. But i didn't know until the BTS photos came out and I was shocked by how good they looked. That's how you know if the filmmakers succeed. Of course we'd have a physical suit but I'm talking about enhancements to the Cape and cowl.

It looks like a personalized version of a Military uniform. Has the same materials and textures you'd see in your average combat suit- which makes sense, because thats what Cap America is. But we've already seen this approach/CONCEPT taken to the Batsuit multiple times in the past. We'd just be trading metal/rubber plates for a bulky, padded suit. The Begins Nomex suit was literally a rejected survival suit made for the US army.

If that's what you want to see, that's completely fine. But me? I'd like to see a different approach taken here. The biggest priority for me is not whether it looks like it can believably take a bullet and that informs what I want to see quite a bit, when it's not defined by the realism mentality

Endgame had like double the budget The Batman will have, it was the biggest movie ever, of course the suits look good. But on The Batman rather not have post production time and money wasted on doing a CGI suit when you CAN make an entirely physical suit. It's not impossible.

Not a single one of Nolan's suits is anything like Captain America's suit. Just because you'd use the word "tactical" to describe them both doesn't make them remotely the same.

 

[TheGuy]

I'm a fan of Hoechlin's suit and would like a similar design.

 

[Marvel united]

Rough idea

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I've really come around the that 1939 style cowl between the mezco design and that fan art form a few pages back. Given the noir influences and pattensons unique facial structure. I hope reeves is considering it along with the black and grey suit.

 

[FatRobin]

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Rough idea

That type of material is not bad.

 

[Invader Joker]

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Rough idea

Aaaand you just proved my point. You can replicate that exact same look with the Winter Soldier materials.

It's not like it'd be designed exactly the same, there'd obviously be differences in patterns, colors and so on




Again, just because you'd use the word "tactical" to describe it doesn't mean it'd be Nolan's suits 2.0 lmao

 

[FunkMiller]

I think a CG suit is a terrible idea on almost every level.

There’s a heavy degree of psychology in the batsuit, for both the actor wearing it, and for the audience watching it. It must be a practical costume.

There’s no other superhero/ comic book character where the suit is as important to the characterisation.

And that’s why I’m also dead set against a suit that doesn’t feel ‘realistic’. Part of Batman’s psychology is that this is a man who straps on a suit of armour every night (he’s called The Dark Knight for a reason) to go out and do battle with evil. The batsuit must help to tell this story.

 

[Marvel united]

Aaaand you just proved my point. You can replicate that exact same look with the Winter Soldier materials.

It's not like it'd be designed exactly the same, there'd obviously be differences in patterns, colors and so on

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Again, just because you'd use the word "tactical" to describe it doesn't mean it'd be Nolan's suits 2.0 lmao

That suit is baggy and padded. It doesn't hug Evans' physique. It's not sleek and streamlined- it's a custom combat suit designed for a Super Soldier. No it doesn't look the exact same as Nolan but it's the same exact idea hence the use of "tactical". Both of them prioritize function over form and we've had 6 Batman movies with this aesthetic already. Realism/practicality was what Burton but especially Nolan, chose to burden themselves with, I hope Reeves gives us a much more stylistic, fantastical Batman. One not constricted to what makes sense in the real world for someone like Batman

I think a CG suit is a terrible idea on almost every level.

There’s a heavy degree of psychology in the batsuit, for both the actor wearing it, and for the audience watching it. It must be a practical costume.

There’s no other superhero/ comic book character where the suit is as important to the characterisation.

And that’s why I’m also dead set against a suit that doesn’t feel ‘realistic’. Part of Batman’s psychology is that this is a man who straps on a suit of armour every night (he’s called The Dark Knight for a reason) to go out and do battle with evil. The batsuit must help to tell this story.

That psychology has existed for decades with the Batsuit looking like this


Decades before Burton realized the Batsuit from the comics into plated, rubber armor. We already got the grounded take of what that means In the context of the real world (a man putting on a suit of armor every night) in the Nolan films.

The psychological aspect of the Batsuit can and will exist without that aesthetic. The symbol of the Batsuit and what that means to Bruce is is not defined by it looking like a retired SWAT commander's training uniform

 

[Invader Joker]

That suit is baggy and padded. It doesn't hug Evans' physique. It's not sleek and streamlined- it's a custom combat suit designed for a Super Soldier. No it doesn't look the exact same as Nolan but it's the same exact idea hence the use of "tactical". Both of them prioritize function over form and we've had 6 Batman movies with this aesthetic already. Realism/practicality was what Burton but especially Nolan, chose to burden themselves with, I hope Reeves gives us a much more stylistic, fantastical Batman. One not constricted to what makes sense in the real world for someone like Batman

Nothing about Burton, Schumacher or Snyder's suit was based on practicality. They were the entire opposite of that, it was all aesthetics, no function, especially Burton.

 

[Invader Joker]

Also, there's a reason pretty much everyone criticized Tom King for going back to the Jim Lee's suit, the Batsuit has evolved over the years. It should look practical.

 

[FunkMiller]

Decades before Burton realized the Batsuit from the comics into plated, rubber armor. We already got the grounded take of what that means In the context of the real world (a man putting on a suit of armor every night) in the Nolan films.

The psychological aspect of the Batsuit can and will exist without that aesthetic. The symbol of the Batsuit and what that means to Bruce is is not defined by it looking like a retired SWAT commander's training uniform

It shows a remarkable lack of imagination to say ‘realism’ = SWAT uniform.

Also, comics aren’t the same as live action. You can’t translate meaning directly from one to the other.

 

[Marvel united]

It shows a remarkable lack of imagination to say ‘realism’ = SWAT uniform.

Also, comics aren’t the same as live action. You can’t translate meaning directly from one to the other.

Well, that's your interpretation of the Batsuit that requires it to look realistic in order to have "meaning". My interpretation prioritizes the symbol of what the bat means as opposed to how much armor is packed onto it or how believable it looks. And that directly clashes with another important aspect of the character which is Batman's physicality and the "Creature of the night".

Also, there's a reason pretty much everyone criticized Tom King for going back to the Jim Lee's suit, the Batsuit has evolved over the years. It should look practical.

The traditional look of the Batsuit went back to being plain ol' spandex in Rebirth after the segmented design from New 52 (which all of the Justice League had) was abandoned. It's been that way for the last 3 years or so, so evidently those complaints aren't loud enough for anybody to listen. Vocal minority. There's a reason why the iconic look of the Batsuit has persisted for so many decades