The BATSUIT Thread

[BattleAngel]

Not big on the hexagonal pattern but this is otherwise fire.

Get ready for my PhD thesis on the technical reasons why anything other than a hexagonal pattern on the yellow would be utterly ridiculous in 2020. (Just kidding)

 

[Marvel united]

Yeah... that's ultra insanely dope. Shocked that I dig the oval. And I tried painting it with white eyes and I must admit it does not look quite as great.

Yea, I think the exposed eyes really compliment that cowl design. I did an edit myself to see how it would look


Still looks pretty cool

 

[Astro13Zombie]

It would be a shame to cover up those eyes

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Yea, I think the exposed eyes really compliment that cowl design. I did an edit myself to see how it would look
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Still looks pretty cool

Fantastic minus the lenses.

 

[Marvel united]

Best of both worlds

 

[AndrewGilkison]

A lack of lenses does not equate to a backwards move. If you were arguing against an immovable neck or a stiff rubber suit, I could understand your point as that would be a regression from modern iterations of the character... However, outside of the comics, no modern version of Batman has permanent lenses (Arkham series, BvS, JL, TDKT). Your whole argument seems to be that a batsuit without lenses cannot be modern, which is frankly obsurd. All of the evidence suggest otherwise.

I am arguing that a Batman suit without lenses cannot be modern, because modern real world technology is advancing to the point where its becoming less and less believable that a Michael Keaton type Batman or a Val Kilmer type Batman or a Christian Bale type Batman or even a Ben Affleck Batman could exist in today's world.

I am also arguing that a Batman suit without lenses cannot be modern, because there is no way a modern Batman would NOT have lenses on his cowl *all the time*, given all the potential functionality and protection it would offer him.

Quite frankly, I don't understand why Ben Affleck's Batman didn't use them all the time. Wouldn't it have made more sense for Affleck's Batman (who we first saw in 2016) to use that tech, and make covering and protecting his eyes more of a priority rather than disguising his voice with that dumb voice synthesizer?

You say Batman doesn't use lenses outside of the comics. Isn't that just another reason why Pattinson's Batman should use them? I mean, comic book accuracy is a good thing isn't it? It certainly makes way more sense to use the source material for Batman as the primary inspiration for future Batman movies, rather then past Batman movies.

 

[hafizbat]

Manip by of Robert Pattinson as Batman in the BATMAN: EARTH ONE Batsuit…Posted on BatmanOnFilm (Done by John Regan) Not a big yellow oval guy, but pretty cool...

Great base for a suit. I think a black utility belt looks a lot better than gold and this is a great example.

I'd prefer the cowl to be sharper and more angular. This one looks a little too soft. I'd also tone down the arms a teeny bit because they're reaching Batfleck levels of rubber muscle. Unless Pattinson manages to make his arms look even remotely like that out of the Batsuit, which is doubtful.

Other than that this is nearly perfect.

 

[C Prometheus]

Yea, I'm not sure I buy it. It sounds purposely vague and unspecific to cover all bases. There are dozens of ways to interpret "Telltale + Earth One with new elements". You could argue the Arkham games employ a suit that has elements of both..Because they are Batman suits.

Whoever wrote that me guessing doesn't know anything. They are throwing darts a board

I suppose it's possible someone made it all up, but that description- especially the emphasis made on the Earth One Batsuit particularly being an influence- is one of the few rumors that I've seen come up almost universally from the different rumor camps that have argued with one another over casting rumors.

Another thing is the helmet like cowl.
Both appear to be made out of some sort of hard material rather than a rubber.
That’s definitely something that I want.
Affleck’s cowl looked so....squishy

I want something like this

Right. While both designs seem to vary a bit on the "how"/the materials used for their Batsuits, both the Earth One and Telltale suits point towards a more tactile design visually than what we got with Batfleck's costume or the classic comic Batsuits being simplistic fabric.

 

[Sawyer]

I don't know about you guys, but personally, I hope he has no eyes in the movie. Just gouge those ****ers right out.

 

[Micromind]

Sonar echo-location.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

I am arguing that a Batman suit without lenses cannot be modern, because modern real world technology is advancing to the point where its becoming less and less believable that a Michael Keaton type Batman or a Val Kilmer type Batman or a Christian Bale type Batman or even a Ben Affleck Batman could exist in today's world.

I am also arguing that a Batman suit without lenses cannot be modern, because there is no way a modern Batman would NOT have lenses on his cowl *all the time*, given all the potential functionality and protection it would offer him.

It is not believable that Batman would exist in today's world, period. Adding eye protection wouldn't suddenly make his existence more plausible.

I can respect that you simply prefer the lenses for aesthetic reasons, but claiming they are essential to suspend disbelief (and downplaying the significance of an actor's eyes to their performance) is just grasping at straws.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I don't know about you guys, but personally, I hope he has no eyes in the movie. Just gouge those ****ers right out.

Perfect time for Reeves to remake this scene with DaRiddler and Battinson:

 

[harrier1215]

Manip by of Robert Pattinson as Batman in the BATMAN: EARTH ONE Batsuit…Posted on BatmanOnFilm (Done by John Regan) Not a big yellow oval guy, but pretty cool...

This is cool minus the yellow oval.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Manip by of Robert Pattinson as Batman in the BATMAN: EARTH ONE Batsuit…Posted on BatmanOnFilm (Done by John Regan) Not a big yellow oval guy, but pretty cool...

That looks awesome, in my opinion.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

It is not believable that Batman would exist in today's world, period. Adding eye protection wouldn't suddenly make his existence more plausible.

I can respect that you simply prefer the lenses for aesthetic reasons, but claiming they are essential to suspend disbelief (and downplaying the significance of an actor's eyes to their performance) is just grasping at straws.

While Batman doesn't exist in our world, he is still a reflection of it. That is why he has been updated continuously since his creation in 1939 by every creator that touches him and will continued to need to be so. Otherwise he becomes antiquated and out of date. For me, Batman cannot run around with his eyes regularly exposed anymore, for the same reasons Batman cannot run around in an Adam West style costume in a live action medium anymore.

It no longer makes sense for the character to do so in a modern setting, no matter how much you prefer to see the actor's eyes.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Is he doing an Undertaker impersonation?

 

[rockandrollsoul]

For me, Batman cannot run around with his eyes regularly exposed anymore, for the same reasons Batman cannot run around in an Adam West style costume in a live action medium anymore.

Again, exposed eyes does not equate to a 50 year old Halloween costume.

Furthermore, you don't seem to be bothered by other "outdated" Batman concepts. His mouth is exposed, his cape is a liability, he fistfights criminals instead of tazing everybody... hell, why even leave the cave; why not use drones?

Ultimately, we suspend our disbelief, because certain aspects are core to the character. Lenses, as has been proven time and time again, are not essential to Batman's character or visual iconography.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Again, exposed eyes does not equate to a 50 year old Halloween costume.

Furthermore, you don't seem to be bothered by other "outdated" Batman concepts. His mouth is exposed, his cape is a liability, he fistfights criminals instead of tazing everybody... hell, why even leave the cave; why not use drones?

All those things you mentioned will likely have to be updated at some point too. The Batman Beyond version of Batman, for example, got rid of the cape entirely and his mask completely covers his face. You think that won't be the norm for Batman at some point? Or that some future interpretation of the character isn't going to use drones or tasers on a regular basis? Long running characters get updated to reflect the times as needed.

Ultimately, we suspend our disbelief, because certain aspects are core to the character. Lenses, as has been proven time and time again, are not essential to Batman's character or visual iconography.

Lenses ARE core to Batman's character. Bill Finger literally told Bob Kane to put them on Batman because they made him look more like a bat.



Batsuit - Wikipedia

 

[AndrewGilkison]

 

[Marvel united]

Batman is not meant to show human emotion. When he's Batman, a criminal is not meant to see humanity in him; Batman's theatrical projection is not meant to be that of a human being or a guy in a suit.

And since the eyes are the window to soul, taking that away, takes away a piece of outwards humanity and emotion & that's literally the entire point. It makes wayyy more sense for him to be in them when you consider every other practical application to lenses. This is what makes sense for a Batman living in our time. Tech feed lenses would have been impossible to pull off 30 years.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

All those things you mentioned will likely have to be updated at some point too. The Batman Beyond version of Batman, for example, got rid of the cape entirely and his mask completely covers his face. You think that won't be the norm for Batman at some point? Or that some future interpretation of the character isn't going to use drones or tasers on a regular basis? Long running characters get updated to reflect the times as needed.

God, I hope not. Honestly, he hasn't changed much in 80 years (nor has his costume).

Lenses ARE core to Batman's character. Bill Finger literally told Bob Kane to put them on Batman because they made him look more like a bat.

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Batsuit - Wikipedia

They are not core as has been demonstrated by the most popular versions of the character in the last three decades.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Batman is not meant to show human emotion. When he's Batman, a criminal is not meant to see humanity in him; Batman's theatrical projection is not meant to be that of a human being or a guy in a suit.

And since the eyes are the window to soul, taking that away, takes away a piece of outwards humanity and emotion & that's literally the entire point. It makes wayyy more sense for him to be in them when you consider every other practical application to lenses. This is what makes sense for a Batman living in our time. Tech feed lenses would have been impossible to pull off 30 years.

Just because it makes more sense for realism doesn't mean it makes more sense for entertainment.

 

[Marvel united]

Just because it makes more sense for realism doesn't mean it makes more sense for entertainment.

Well, why do you think so many advocate for a tactical looking Batsuit? If not for realism, then what? No, they want it to look believable, even at the expense of a more stylistic design.

I think it's time they did something different with the cowl. How long are we gonna keep going back to the same methods of execution from 30 years ago? When the world around Batman is changing, why must he stay in the past? Several characters in the MCU have their eyes covered and they NEVER have a problem conveying emotion. Yes, they remove their helmets but Marvel didn't show the eyes through the mask for the sake of an actor's performance.

You can act without your eyes. And if we got an expressive cowl too, that would eliminate all need for the pupils altogether becuz as we've established, the pupils are not what shows emotion. It's the brow and eyelids

 

[harrier1215]

They don't have to do physical lenses. They could be a projection built into the suit where inside Batman sees a HUD and on the outside it just appears as a white colored lens.

This doesn't HAVE to be complicated, they just probably don't want to overdo the tech in the suit so as not to seem to much like Iron Man or some other generic character.