The BATSUIT Thread



Not what’d I’d want the suit to look like, but I know a lot of people here like the Bermejo design and blue-gray. Not too bad.
 
While I don't know what the actual Batsuit will look like specifically, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it winds up bearing some resemblance to Bermejo's design (or other somewhat more tactical looking designs like Zero Year).

I know I'm repeating myself here, but there's a very visible grit in those set photos so far and the buildings surrounding the area Reeves was filming in remind me of how Bermejo draws his Gotham City.


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Obviously I could be reading too much into all of this, but it's worth keeping in mind while we wait for our first official look at the new Batsuit. Gritty obviously doesn't immediately mean it'll look like Nolan's films, but this might be a bit more subdued than a lot of us were hoping for.
 
Why do people keep talking about Bermejo when those rumors were confirmed fake?

Well, speaking personally, it's more of a feeling that whatever the suit ends up looking like, it'll probably be something more tactical looking and more gritty. Bermejo's one of the more immediately obvious examples of that IMO. Zero Year or Earth One are also possible directions I could see the suit being resemblance to as well.
 


Not what’d I’d want the suit to look like, but I know a lot of people here like the Bermejo design and blue-gray. Not too bad.


I like this. The ab and crotch lines need to go, the emblem should be separate from the cape, the cowl should be more fitted to Pattinson’s face in real life, and that weird thing that’s going on with the piece directly under the cowl should either be done away with or fixed, but overall? Quite good.
 
Just my opinion, but I think that cowl looks awful, especially with those short dinky ears. I don't think lenses need to be part of the cowl either necessarily.
 
What's so wrong with hsving an aesthetically pleasing design? Why does the Batsuit have to look ugly?
Nightly crime fighter?

Battle damage?

The need to have visible plausible forms of protection and armor.

The more detail the more authentic and believable it looks.

In some peoples cases they consider that ugly?

I don’t get the obsession with the form fitting masks. The point is to make him look demonic, angry, intimidating, angst and disguise his identity.

89 and TDKT nailed this.

Sidenote ...

Why is the Bermejo suit considered ugly?

That suit looks ****ing fantastic. If only the ears were medium, but even more preferably long. It creates a more menacing organic beastly looking silhouette and creature of the night vibe. Especially the way the chest logo blends into that preferred cloaked winged style where the cal covers the details of the tactical nature of Bruce’s suit. Making him appear less human to everyone else even though we know he has armor.

While also in combination keeping with the plausibility of the tactical military armor padding and suit which allows mobility. And if it had retractable lenses, it would literally be perfect.

Think that Bermejo suit in combination with Jae Lee or year one, year 100, or year zero for an accurate Robert Pattinson type physique in that suit.
 
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What's so wrong with hsving an aesthetically pleasing design? Why does the Batsuit have to look ugly?
Eh, aesthetically pleasing belongs in the eye of the beholder... and in costume design for films, can be impacted in a major way by the storytelling decisions feeding into the design.

Bermejo’s design is very much an aggressive and bluntly violent look for a costume, and I think that’s something that could fit very well in a noir style film, especially if they want to emphasize Bruce’s willpower maybe being stronger than his body - a more ultitarian and brutal looking suit that gets torn up and busted a bit would suit that story.

What I’m kind of looking for is a Batman suit design that communicates how prepared and equipped he is... and in the right light and with the right mood, becomes artistically grotesque and frightening. ‘89’s scowl and silhouette was damn intimidating and evil looking, and I like that... but right now, I’ve got the idea of a more barebones suit being worn by a pissed off Bruce with a split lip, blood on his knuckles, cuts through his fabric, and one eye lense working while the other is out and his exposed eye is blood red... all silhouetted by medium to long ears and heavy and intimating cape.
 
Bermejo's Batsuit looks ugly, it looks as if Batman got that suit designed by some other person and wears it like that just because he can't do anything about it.
 
What's so wrong with hsving an aesthetically pleasing design? Why does the Batsuit have to look ugly?

Well, for one, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally speaking I detest the Batfleck costume, despite being the most comic accurate suit. It looks bloated and doesn't mesh well with my personal preferences about the character's design in a live action medium. But my opinions don't diminish the fact that other fans are starstruck by that costume. What's ugly to me is gorgeous to someone else. Plain and simple.

Second, and far more importantly, it's about visual consistency within the overall aesthetics shown in a film. The various different depictions of Batman we've seen in live action over the years all had costumes that reflected and matched the aesthetics of the set designs of the film, making the film feel like a cohesive whole visually (even if the films themselves weren't satisfying, like the Schumacher or Snyder films).

At this point, with it appearing that Reeves' Gotham will most likely be something similar to the ones shown in Batman Begins or Joker, it feels unlikely to me that we would get a suit similar to the ones Datrini's drawn over the past year. I wouldn't rule it out entirely, because there are certain times and situations where a director or costume designer might deliberately opt to make a certain costume stand out apart from the rest of the set to more deliberately single out that character on screen. I'm just skeptical that that will happen here.

With that in mind, a more tactical looking costume seems to make more sense in this particular depiction of Gotham.
 
Well, for one, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally speaking I detest the Batfleck costume, despite being the most comic accurate suit. It looks bloated and doesn't mesh well with my personal preferences about the character's design in a live action medium. But my opinions don't diminish the fact that other fans are starstruck by that costume. What's ugly to me is gorgeous to someone else. Plain and simple.

Second, and far more importantly, it's about visual consistency within the overall aesthetics shown in a film. The various different depictions of Batman we've seen in live action over the years all had costumes that reflected and matched the aesthetics of the set designs of the film, making the film feel like a cohesive whole visually (even if the films themselves weren't satisfying, like the Schumacher or Snyder films).

At this point, with it appearing that Reeves' Gotham will most likely be something similar to the ones shown in Batman Begins or Joker, it feels unlikely to me that we would get a suit similar to the ones Datrini's drawn over the past year. I wouldn't rule it out entirely, because there are certain times and situations where a director or costume designer might deliberately opt to make a certain costume stand out apart from the rest of the set to more deliberately single out that character on screen. I'm just skeptical that that will happen here.

With that in mind, a more tactical looking costume seems to make more sense in this particular depiction of Gotham.
Seriously agree. Once again, you’re brilliant (and I’ll respond to the PMs soon, sorry)

Reeve’s Gotham (so far based off set pics) looks like it will be a balance between

Burton’s surreal stylistic and Nolan’s organic naturalism.

So in essence, basically what we saw out of Joker’s Gotham. Comic book but gritty realism.

Intentionally even more gritty than natural real American city life (ala Nolan) but not as surreal stylistic or expressionistic as Burton.

The Batsuit should fit that aesthetic and Bermejo and Year 100 / Year Zero fit that vibe honestly.

P.S. that clash in tone of story and stylistic choices is one of the issues I had with BvS. The batsuit looked overtly comical in its musculature and design and didn’t fit the previously established Nolan esque pseudo realist of TDKT, and Man of Steel.
 
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Seriously agree. Once again, you’re brilliant (and I’ll respond to the PMs soon, sorry)

Reeve’s Gotham (so far based off set pics) looks like it will be a balance between

Burton’s surreal stylistic and Nolan’s organic naturalism.

So in essence, basically what we saw out of Joker’s Gotham. Comic book but gritty realism.

Intentionally even more gritty than natural real American city life (ala Nolan) but not as surreal stylistic or expressionistic as Burton.

The Batsuit should fit that aesthetic and Bermejo and Year 100 / Year Zero fit that vibe honestly.

P.S. that clash in tone of story and stylistic choices is one of the issues I had with BvS. The batsuit looked overtly comical in its musculature and design and didn’t fit the previously established Nolan esque pseudo realist of TDKT, and Man of Steel.

I'm trying not to be too presumptuous here, because we could always find ourselves surprised by what Reeves does elsewhere with his Gotham on soundstages or what sort of CGI touchups the background might have in post-production.

There's still the possibility of something flashier and more comic-y ending up on screen... it just doesn't appear to be going that way from what we can see right now.
 
Yeah, there’s a huuuuuge leap between what we see as it’s filming and what ends up on screen.

Yeah, people underestimate just how much digital effects shape the background of a lot of films now. However, it is worth considering that it might be giving us an idea of what to expect- especially the costumes and cars on set.
 

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