The BATSUIT Thread

[Invader Joker]

totally, it just seems weirdly erotic that Bruce would be interested in making the armour look organic - the jl suit, as large, puffy as it was, was way better.

I actually think it kinda helps make him seem more animalistic, but it still didn't translate that well.

 

[TheBattinson]

totally, it just seems weirdly erotic that Bruce would be interested in making the armour look organic - the jl suit, as large, puffy as it was, was way better.

Totally agree.

I mean people have commented on the bat suit being a fetish suit before.

But I mean the Schumacher and Snyder ones take the cake with it. Fetish and weirdly erotic is right about the male figure but to exaggerating and ridiculous extents.


I don’t picture Bruce being that meticulous in designing musculature of the male figure let alone to erotic levels.

Or exaggerating the proportions. Affleck was thick but he wasn’t THAT big, he definitely wasn’t muscular and cut, but he damn sure wasn’t that big in the suit. It just reeked of looking over sculpted to fetish levels.

Hell, they did it to Henry Cavill in his BvS suit too and he actually was in brilliant shape. But the over design musculature cheapened everything. And made it look comical.

The only suit that works with the organic musculature is the 89 suit.

It’s designed though just to look like subdued Greco Roman body armor. And is accentuated by the fact there is other visible means of armor like on the forearms. But it doesn’t look like hyper stylized fetish male figure obsessive. Like someone was busting in their paints while designing it. Just looks like organic body armor that gives a vague human - creature esque look which is the point.

And even then, the brilliance of the 89 suit, the cape drapes over And engulfs the entire body to hide it in most cases. It’s definitely not there to be shown off.

Also helps that Michael Keaton played the role like a corky, neurotic, Crazy, tough bad ass.

It made the suit work. He’s not the biggest actor to play the character, yet he by far is the most intimidating. He makes the suit work for HIM. Not the other way around.

Because let’s be honest, Ben Affleck looked hilarious in that puffy, overly sculpted, unbelievably huge suit that just made him look puffy and fat and bloated with double chins on screen.

 

[Invader Joker]

Totally agree.

I mean people have commented on the bat suit being a fetish suit before.

But I mean the Schumacher and Snyder ones take the cake with it. Fetish and weirdly erotic is right about the male figure but to exaggerating and ridiculous extents.


I don’t picture Bruce being that meticulous in designing musculature of the male figure let alone to erotic levels.

I'll play devil's advocate here against my better judgement.
I think an in-universe explanation would be that the whole muscle thing kinda helps to further cement the idea that he's an animal. If the suit doesn't look as much like a suit and it looks more like his actual body , that kinda helps to create the legend as he's beating down criminals in dark alleyways when they can barely make sense of what's going on. After all, really dangerous strong animals have somewhat visible muscles. Just look at some kangaroos and how ridiculously buff they are.
Obviously the Snyder suit didn't execute this idea in the best way, since Ben Affleck's suit really didn't fit him at all, it was more than obvious for the majority of his scenes that it was a muscle suit, and Schumacher shamelessly went for the fetichistic angle, but even then I'd say there were a couple of shots in the BvS warehouse scene were you could kinda see this animalistic effect take place:

So a suit with visible lines of muscle can work, but I'd say it kinda needs to be better fitted for the actor and probably have different materials than the ones Snyder used.

 

[TheBattinson]

I'll play devil's advocate here against my better judgement.
I think an in-universe explanation would be that the whole muscle thing kinda helps to further cement the idea that he's an animal. If the suit doesn't look as much like a suit and it looks more like his actual body , that kinda helps to create the legend as he's beating down criminals in dark alleyways when they can barely make sense of what's going on. After all, really dangerous strong animals have somewhat visible muscles. Just look at some kangaroos and how ridiculously buff they are.
Obviously the Snyder suit didn't execute this idea in the best way, since Ben Affleck's suit really didn't fit him at all, it was more than obvious for the majority of his scenes that it was a muscle suit, and Schumacher shamelessly went for the fetichistic angle, but even then I'd say there were a couple of shots in the BvS warehouse scene were you could kinda see this animalistic effect take place:

So a suit with visible lines of muscle can work, but I'd say it kinda needs to be better fitted for the actor and probably have different materials than the ones Snyder used.

I totally already understand that.

You must’ve missed the portion of the post where I said this of the 89 suit ...

It’s designed though just to look like subdued Greco Roman body armor. And is accentuated by the fact there is other visible means of armor like on the forearms. But it doesn’t look like hyper stylized fetish male figure obsessive. Like someone was busting in their paints while designing it. Just looks like organic body armor that gives a vague human - creature esque look which is the point.

I said the 89 suit actually pulls it off.

Where it looks like organic could be human, could be creature musculature.

But it isn’t put out on front street, and accentuates Keaton’s natural form instead of taking him to comically can’t move stupid levels of beefy Chippendale / Body Builder musculature.

And in true Batman / Dracula esque / creature of the night like fashion, the leather cape looks like actual wings and engulfs the body so you don’t know what it is. Making him a living demonic silhouette or gargoyle. Cape wraps around him like, you know, actual bat’s wings do when they’re not spreading them or in flight.

Is it musculature? Is it body armor? Nobody knows until they get right up next to it and shoot it with bullets, point blank.

89 suit isn’t however sculpted to erotic male fixation levels like the Schumacher and honestly the hyper stylized 300 esque BvS and JL Snyder suits

 

[godisawesome]

totally, it just seems weirdly erotic that Bruce would be interested in making the armour look organic - the jl suit, as large, puffy as it was, was way better.

I actually think it kinda helps make him seem more animalistic, but it still didn't translate that well.

To me, the best idea for having Batman’s suit resemble a muscle suit would be to deliberately design the muscles in a manner that approaches a grotesque and inhuman light - have the “sinew” of the padding/armor be just a bit off and integrate into the suit’s elements in a creepy way.

Like, if you really wanted Batman to have a spandex style look that in-universe would kind of have to be sculpted thanks to how the audience has grown accustomed to armor looking tougher than spandex, have him deliberately invoke an animalistic design that clearly fears towards being inhuman in subtle ways. Have his forearm fins/blades seem to emerge from the forearm like creepy mutations when observed closely, and have the torso armor maintain a powerful look, but more beastly than beef-cakey.

 

[Vaibow]

Totally agree.

I mean people have commented on the bat suit being a fetish suit before.

But I mean the Schumacher and Snyder ones take the cake with it. Fetish and weirdly erotic is right about the male figure but to exaggerating and ridiculous extents.


I don’t picture Bruce being that meticulous in designing musculature of the male figure let alone to erotic levels.

Or exaggerating the proportions. Affleck was thick but he wasn’t THAT big, he definitely wasn’t muscular and cut, but he damn sure wasn’t that big in the suit. It just reeked of looking over sculpted to fetish levels.

Hell, they did it to Henry Cavill in his BvS suit too and he actually was in brilliant shape. But the over design musculature cheapened everything. And made it look comical.

The only suit that works with the organic musculature is the 89 suit.

It’s designed though just to look like subdued Greco Roman body armor. And is accentuated by the fact there is other visible means of armor like on the forearms. But it doesn’t look like hyper stylized fetish male figure obsessive. Like someone was busting in their paints while designing it. Just looks like organic body armor that gives a vague human - creature esque look which is the point.

And even then, the brilliance of the 89 suit, the cape drapes over And engulfs the entire body to hide it in most cases. It’s definitely not there to be shown off.

Also helps that Michael Keaton played the role like a corky, neurotic, Crazy, tough bad ass.

It made the suit work. He’s not the biggest actor to play the character, yet he by far is the most intimidating. He makes the suit work for HIM. Not the other way around.

Because let’s be honest, Ben Affleck looked hilarious in that puffy, overly sculpted, unbelievably huge suit that just made him look puffy and fat and bloated with double chins on screen.

Spot on, 89 suit to me too, displayed armour and theatrics - I also like to think the chest plate was something bruce used, or took inspiration from his own collection - like you said, it looks very roman guard like and Keaton was that kinda weird to do that.... sleeping upside down 'get nuts' moment. Also, the crook saying, 'hey - that's some kinda armour' was a great way to let us know it was a chest plate and obviously not his abs.

To me, the best idea for having Batman’s suit resemble a muscle suit would be to deliberately design the muscles in a manner that approaches a grotesque and inhuman light - have the “sinew” of the padding/armor be just a bit off and integrate into the suit’s elements in a creepy way.

Like, if you really wanted Batman to have a spandex style look that in-universe would kind of have to be sculpted thanks to how the audience has grown accustomed to armor looking tougher than spandex, have him deliberately invoke an animalistic design that clearly fears towards being inhuman in subtle ways. Have his forearm fins/blades seem to emerge from the forearm like creepy mutations when observed closely, and have the torso armor maintain a powerful look, but more beastly than beef-cakey.

That's a great idea - almost like spawn or the solar suit from BF - a suit that is obviously armour, but giving off a creepy, macabre monster look.

Regarding Snyder - I always felt that they wanted you to think if batflecks suit ripped, it would show flesh and perhaps minimal under armour.

Deconstructing the suit has really made me appreciate the realism of battison's suit and also the 89 suit which in my mind is perfection.

 

[That one guy]

Not official, but a pretty decent mock up of the new cowl on Battinson

 

[craigaat]

Nose looks weird

 

[thebatfan5194]

Spot on, 89 suit to me too, displayed armour and theatrics - I also like to think the chest plate was something bruce used, or took inspiration from his own collection - like you said, it looks very roman guard like and Keaton was that kinda weird to do that.... sleeping upside down 'get nuts' moment. Also, the crook saying, 'hey - that's some kinda armour' was a great way to let us know it was a chest plate and obviously not his abs.



That's a great idea - almost like spawn or the solar suit from BF - a suit that is obviously armour, but giving off a creepy, macabre monster look.

Regarding Snyder - I always felt that they wanted you to think if batflecks suit ripped, it would show flesh and perhaps minimal under armour.

Deconstructing the suit has really made me appreciate the realism of battison's suit and also the 89 suit which in my mind is perfection.

Yeah I think the intention of the BvS suit was to mimic the hulking physique of Frank Miller’s Batman and with that a fabric suit that shows the natural musculature, like HC’s Superman suit. Problem is the suit was molded for an entirely different physique than Ben Affleck had so it was like the suit was wearing him.

 

[BattleAngel]

Not official, but a pretty decent mock up of the new cowl on BattinsonView attachment 32448

There’s a lot about this I don’t like, but it’s only the ears that I can’t stand. The way they get so tubular and thin... Just totally strange.

 

[william]

Not official, but a pretty decent mock up of the new cowl on BattinsonView attachment 32448

Oh my god! this is soo UGLY! WHYYYYYYYY???

 

[I Am The Knight]

Truly awful.

 

[super85]

Uphill battle for Reeves. Not a huge fan of his previous work, the casting of this film, or how the suit looks. Yeah, he Night get a new suit later during the film. But it was a still a official camera test they released.

Doesnt mean end product will be bad. But so far , nothing with this movie has made me hyped for it.

 

[shauner111]

To each their own. I don’t need to love a filmmakers past work to feel hype. As long as I can see potential in their direction or how they handle their characters. Which is where i’m at with Reeves. I loved Cloverfield for what it was, only sorta-liked his last three movies. But it’s always the premise, the plot that doesn’t vibe with me. Batman feels more like a passion project instead of just Reeves making the best out of a studio offer.

The cast on the other hand is out of control incredible. I’m more hyped for the actors than I was during TDK trilogy which is saying a lot.

 

[Schlosser85]

I thought Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was great. This cast for me is a mixed bag at first glance (I don't think Pattinson as Bruce, Wright as Gordon, or Dano as Riddler are big stretches, but Serkis as Alfred and Farrell as Penguin are weird to me, and Kravitz isn't who I'd have picked for Catwoman), but I'll see how they turn out and sometimes seemingly weird casting choices can be great (Heath Ledger as The Joker). I have some issues with what we've seen of the Batsuit so far, but nothing deal-breaking.

Overall, I don't feel too concerned about this being good.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I'm also not a fan of Serkis choice, to put it mildly, plus Kravitz always bores me with her tranquilized performances, but the rest of the cast is intriguing. Maybe except for Wright not looking like a classic Gordon. I hope Batman POV isn't just talk, because this kind of narrative really enhances noir feel.

The suit is bloody awesome and I can't wait to see it in action. Been a while since I genuinely loved Batman's appearance.

 

[Nemeres]

They gave the cowl a Liam Neeson nose when fans expected an Adrien Brody nose.

 

[Tigerlaws]

Yeah I can't stand it that being said there's something really strange and off about the image leaked with the Batman suit. I think it's either his father Thomas andd some weird made up history they've managed to create where Thomas or his great grand father and all this stuff where Batman as well (or maybe there was some group like the Owls) where others in the past wore the Bat suit and it's this ancient practice but...um, the others were more evil then Bruce Wayne or something. Like what a creepy and garish suit, wtf?

Is Batman the villain now secretly or have we not had enough of like, Affleck/Snyder superheroes? grim-dark noir, edge-lord-ffleck Synder verse ("oh oh, we're in trouble...!) type scenarios...here....yeah....I'm done. I'm just done, that's it.

Never again.

 

[Tigerlaws]

I'm also not a fan of Serkis choice, to put it mildly, plus Kravitz always bores me with her tranquilized performances, but the rest of the cast is intriguing. Maybe except for Wright not looking like a classic Gordon. I hope Batman POV isn't just talk, because this kind of narrative really enhances noir feel.

The suit is bloody awesome and I can't wait to see it in action. Been a while since I genuinely loved Batman's appearance.

I think he's a good actor, but there's something about him that kind of irks me as Alfred, yeah. He's not a completely off the wall or bad choice though IMHO.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I mean, I was open towards another unusual choices like Oldman playing Gordon after a lifetime of famous villains roles. But there's something peculiar about Serkis that I can't shake off. We will see.

 

[Tigerlaws]

I mean, I was open towards another unusual choices like Oldman playing Gordon after a lifetime of famous villains roles. But there's something peculiar about Serkis that I can't shake off. We will see.

He's sorta a hard nose gritty British actor, who seems like he's been around and lived and gained the type of wisdom, street smarts from such life experiences. I forgot to say, he seems tough too, but there's something about him. I can't quite say, he obviously kinda has a villain esque way of carrying himself or at least appearing like at times but at the same time in real life outside of roles there's something about him that seems really nice too. I think it's safe to say he's a good actor, and has never had many chances in mainstream hollywood to play roles outside of villains and the like.

He's like, y'know, he fits the style they're going for in the movie as well. Maybe they'll hint at Alfred being abusive, it will be funny. Bruce Wayne is his "precious" does anyone else get that? I don't know if I'm giving too much away by that.

 

[shauner111]

Yeah I can't stand it that being said there's something really strange and off about the image leaked with the Batman suit. I think it's either his father Thomas andd some weird made up history they've managed to create where Thomas or his great grand father and all this stuff where Batman as well (or maybe there was some group like the Owls) where others in the past wore the Bat suit and it's this ancient practice but...um, the others were more evil then Bruce Wayne or something. Like what a creepy and garish suit, wtf?

Is Batman the villain now secretly or have we not had enough of like, Affleck/Snyder superheroes? grim-dark noir, edge-lord-ffleck Synder verse ("oh oh, we're in trouble...!) type scenarios...here....yeah....I'm done. I'm just done, that's it.

Never again.

WHAT are you on about? Lol

 

[I Am The Knight]

One of the most disturbing posts in this thread

 

[Captain Tired]

Hahahahaha

Oh man this is making me laugh. The responses are killing me.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Yeah I can't stand it that being said there's something really strange and off about the image leaked with the Batman suit. I think it's either his father Thomas andd some weird made up history they've managed to create where Thomas or his great grand father and all this stuff where Batman as well (or maybe there was some group like the Owls) where others in the past wore the Bat suit and it's this ancient practice but...um, the others were more evil then Bruce Wayne or something. Like what a creepy and garish suit, wtf?

Is Batman the villain now secretly or have we not had enough of like, Affleck/Snyder superheroes? grim-dark noir, edge-lord-ffleck Synder verse ("oh oh, we're in trouble...!) type scenarios...here....yeah....I'm done. I'm just done, that's it.

Never again.