The BATSUIT Thread

[chefmolnar]

Here's my semi-regular reminder:
-James Bond
-Indiana Jones
-Black Widow
-Hawkeye
-John Wick
-Rambo
-Sarah Conner
-John McClane
-Ethan Hunt
-Catniss Everdeen
-Nearly every Batman until 1989
-Ninajs (any film)
-Ronan (any film)
None of these "regular" non-superpowered heroes needed armor plating. Why on earth are people, including movie directors, obsessed with giving Batman armor as part of his suit? Armor, to me, suggests weakness and vulnerability. I want a strong, agile, smart Batman who avoids bullets the same way the above roster of heroes does. They sometimes get shot, but rarely. The beauty of fiction.

That's all.

 

[Vaibow]

Here's my semi-regular reminder:
-James Bond
-Indiana Jones
-Black Widow
-Hawkeye
-John Wick
-Rambo
-Sarah Conner
-John McClane
-Ethan Hunt
-Catniss Everdeen
-Nearly every Batman until 1989
-Ninajs (any film)
-Ronan (any film)
None of these "regular" non-superpowered heroes needed armor plating. Why on earth are people, including movie directors, obsessed with giving Batman armor as part of his suit? Armor, to me, suggests weakness and vulnerability. I want a strong, agile, smart Batman who avoids bullets the same way the above roster of heroes does. They sometimes get shot, but rarely. The beauty of fiction.

That's all.

Because it's a way to explain the suit.... so you want bruce to dress up as a bat, just because?
Or do you want some grounded realism as to why he is in black, wearing a mask and has a cape?

 

[Fincher]

When or where did I say they didn't??? If you you watch the movie, you see this new interpretation will have 'mystique' don't you worry about that.. my point, however, is that all suits, behind the scenes, on set, pre editing all look a mess.
Burton's was thick, bubble marks, scuffed, matted...
As others have said, it's all down to movie magic.

We've seen photos and video controlled by Reeves/the production team to make this Batman look good. I don't like the suit or the samurai concept, and not once have I ever not liked a costume outside of a film at a base level and then liked it in the film because of movie magic. They can only work with what they have. Now maybe the movie Batman will have mystique of some other kind, but that's not to say meshing a batsuit and a samurai suit together won't detract from that for me. I don't like that at all.

 

[Vaibow]

We've seen photos and video controlled by Reeves/the production team to make this Batman look good. I don't like the suit or the samurai concept, and not once have I ever not liked a costume outside of a film at a base level and then liked it in the film because of movie magic. They can only work with what they have. Now maybe the movie Batman will have mystique of some other kind, but that's not to say meshing a batsuit and a samurai suit together won't detract from that for me. I don't like that at all.

What exactly don't you like or feel is meshed from a samurai suit?
Does it not just look like an evolution of suits, with reason?

 

[Fincher]

I just don't think the two looks are compatible; I didn't like how it looked before I noticed the samurai aspect. I also don't think you should look at Batman and see a samurai, or a Green Beret, or anything but Batman. All of the suits have their own particular details, but they're part of an overall bat suit, not an overarching concept of their own. It's too much.

 

[chefmolnar]

Because it's a way to explain the suit.... so you want bruce to dress up as a bat, just because?
Or do you want some grounded realism as to why he is in black, wearing a mask and has a cape?

The suit doesn't need an explanation outside of "mysterious unknown crazy man dressed like a bat to scare and intimidate criminals." Not everything needs a practical explanation. This is fiction.

 

[Vaibow]

I just don't think the two looks are compatible; I didn't like how it looked before I noticed the samurai aspect. I also don't think you should look at Batman and see a samurai, or a Green Beret, or anything but Batman. All of the suits have their own particular details, but they're part of an overall bat suit, not an overarching concept of their own. It's too much.

I can respect and appreciate where you are coming from.. I personally don't see it that way, but it's all cool.

 

[Vaibow]

The suit doesn't need an explanation outside of "mysterious unknown crazy man dressed like a bat to scare and intimidate criminals." Not everything needs a practical explanation. This is fiction.

So that's how you want the world's greatest detective to be seen as.. a crazy man dressed as a bat?

It's funny, cos that's I kinda felt watching Batfleck, even more so when Arthur Curry implied as much..

I think, for me, we all know clark wears his native uniform or something his mum whips up to appear more heroic and as a disguise. He is already bullet proof, so..

Same goes for Diana, it's her uniform.

Barry, it's to withstand the friction and energy.

Cyborg - it's his body.

So for batman to wear it just to be creepy, I dunno, it just feels weird - but then I guess anything comic related is.

I just see the cowl and the cape as theatrics, the rest, serves a purpose. Again, as others have said, if it was a period piece, it could feel better suited, not sure why it wouldn't translate to now, but yeah... I guess things change.

 

[J.Drangal]

The suit doesn't need an explanation outside of "mysterious unknown crazy man dressed like a bat to scare and intimidate criminals." Not everything needs a practical explanation. This is fiction.

I just see the cowl and the cape as theatrics, the rest, serves a purpose. Again, as others have said, if it was a period piece, it could feel better suited, not sure why it wouldn't translate to now, but yeah... I guess things change.

It's interesting because just as much as I think it's possible to interpret Batman in many ways, from the most stylized, whimsical to the most rational, militarized, I can't help but think that wanting to justify everything is a mistake.
Yes, Batman is a vigilante who disguises himself as a bat. Whether the costume is real armor or not is, imo, an option. Even in a grounded approach, Batman could wear a very simple costume. "Year One" could be transposed to the screen as it is, I think the costume would remain credible because, once focused on the story, viewers wouldn't really have the time to ask themselves so many questions.
The key is the deal between the author and the viewer to accept certain things, certain rules in fiction, without rationalizing everything, or atleast only to a certain degree. (see TDK where Batman needs an armor but Two-Face can starts a killing spree with his face blown off... but it works because of this deal)
By justifying everything, i think we lose something a bit of magic. One should not wonder if Frodo would have done better wearing walking shoes for his journey...
Just my two cents on this topic...

 

[Vaibow]

It's interesting because just as much as I think it's possible to interpret Batman in many ways, from the most stylized, whimsical to the most rational, militarized, I can't help but think that wanting to justify everything is a mistake.
Yes, Batman is a vigilante who disguises himself as a bat. Whether the costume is real armor or not is, imo, an option. Even in a grounded approach, Batman could wear a very simple costume. "Year One" could be transposed to the screen as it is, I think the costume would remain credible because, once focused on the story, viewers wouldn't really have the time to ask themselves so many questions.
The key is the deal between the author and the viewer to accept certain things, certain rules in fiction, without rationalizing everything, or atleast only to a certain degree. (see TDK where Batman needs an armor but Two-Face can starts a killing spree with his face blown off... but it works because of this deal)
By justifying everything, i think we lose something a bit of magic. One should not wonder if Frodo would have done better wearing walking shoes for his journey...
Just my two cents on this topic...

I see your point - but movie goers demand more - times do change.

Will they be willing to 'accept certain things'... I think it all depends how they play Bruce Wayne, ultimately.

Keaton totally got away with his looks, which was way more faithful to the source material.

Bale, his suit made sense and looked faithful to the source material, it later morphed into something else mind.

Batfleck - his turn needed more info but we know it was the director wanting it to be most comic accurate and we had to accept that deal, but his Bruce... it didn't link up to me.

Point is, what you can accept may not be what others can - however, I would and I have always said, I would love a scene where Batman knows his DNA or anything he leaves behind will be scrutinized so for this one mission he creates a suit which is stealth and sterile as can bend is literally the comic accurate suit...

 

[Invader Joker]

This seems to be, by far and away, the best and most accurate fanart/render of the cowl based on everything we've seen so far. Bravo. And I gotta say... I dig it.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

This seems to be, by far and away, the best and most accurate fanart/render of the cowl based on everything we've seen so far. Bravo. And I gotta say... I dig it.

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The actual cowl's nose is much more pointed than that.

 

[Invader Joker]

The actual cowl's nose is much more pointed than that.

Depends a lot on the angle.
On the camera test alone you can see how it looks pointy when he's looking down but then as he looks up it loses that pointy nature.

 

[FatRobin]

This seems to be, by far and away, the best and most accurate fanart/render of the cowl based on everything we've seen so far. Bravo. And I gotta say... I dig it.

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I dig it as well. It's an interesting looking cowl, and I love how much it reminds me of Gotham by Gaslight. It's one of my favorite looks for Batman.

The leather material also seems to allow it to be more form fitting than all the previous cowls. Hope the final product will be somewhat close to this.

 

[Sawyer]

This seems to be, by far and away, the best and most accurate fanart/render of the cowl based on everything we've seen so far. Bravo. And I gotta say... I dig it.

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I’m feeling it.

 

[Invader Joker]

I dig it as well. It's an interesting looking cowl, and I love how much it reminds me of Gotham by Gaslight. It's one of my favorite looks for Batman.

The leather material also seems to allow it to be more form fitting than all the previous cowls. Hope the final product will be somewhat close to this.

Batmobile designed commented, so I'd figure it's pretty damn close if not exactly the same.

This guy truly did a great job.

 

[Tigerlaws]

What does Robert Pattinson have aids now or something lol

 

[Sawyer]

Oh damn.

 

[Tigerlaws]

The suit design is okay I just don't get why they use the older versions of Batman, like with Affleck and that alternative batman version, isn't that essentially old batman? what's with that.. They make everything feel so gritty and rough, I'm not really feeling that. 70s |Batman will always be Neal Adams, not whatever they're attempting with this. It does not sufficiently suit Tim Burtons either. I think the tone and style Burton preferred was a lot more high-minded complex and sophisticated though it didn't seem like it always on the surface. It was gritty but only a little bit geesh. Batman is wearing like regular pants too what's with that? they're not tight enough they're baggy and Robert Pattinson is so skinny, he looks almost like somewhat scraggily and sickly.

Gosh I'm going to spend time making up my own drawings of how a Batman movie i think should look it irks me so much.

 

[Invader Joker]

Oh damn.

That render was already good, but the newest one is pretty much perfect. He really improved upon all the little details.

 

[Tigerlaws]

There's definitely portrayals of the character like this which are quite prevalent and now I see why but it's not definitely not the character I'm fond of.

 

[Sawyer]

That render was already good, but the newest one is pretty much perfect. He really improved upon all the little details.

Now for Reeves to drop an official pic with this much clarity... *crosses fingers*

 

[KGBANE]

I really dig this suit and whatever upgrade he gets keep it armored(like a crossed between TellTale and Arkham Batman suits)! I know some people think this movie is going to 100% realistic. They forgot that Reeves said he is not going to make Batman film like Nolan. I really think he is going to balance this movie tone very well.

 

[Vaibow]

when you stare at it, long enough, you forget it's a mask and it actually becomes his head...

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Depends a lot on the angle.
On the camera test alone you can see how it looks pointy when he's looking down but then as he looks up it loses that pointy nature.

Going off of the set pics and Batmobile pics, it's pointy.