The Dark Knight Rises The Box Office Thread

[Liam_H]

I'd add Looper to that list.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

You should get on that. Although like many the 3rd act of Sunshine always conflicts me.

What conflicts you?

 

[Boom]

Just one in a very long list over the years. Wrestler, Zodiac, and Prestige are some other recent ones that I wish received more recognition at the time.

Fincher and Zodiac getting snubbed was just criminal. There's no other word for it.

 

[Liam_H]

What conflicts you?

Just the way it plays out. I can't be specific since I haven't seen it in awhile but I just enjoyed the first two-thirds of the movie a lot more than the latter third.

 

[Boom]

I'd add Looper to that list.

Thanks .

I'm sure there's another one I'm forgetting.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Ah yes, Pacific Rim sounds like something that could be outstanding.

Giant Mechs fighting Aliens/Monsters = WIN.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Fincher and Zodiac getting snubbed was just criminal. There's no other word for it.

Right on.

 

[Reek]

i will say Sunshine has a bad ass soundtrack... heard that song in Kick-Ass when Hit Girl saves bigdaddy...

amazingly off topic in here

 

[Liam_H]

Its better than TDKR vs Avengers talk.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Just the way it plays out. I can't be specific since I haven't seen it in awhile but I just enjoyed the first two-thirds of the movie a lot more than the latter third.

Ah, you're probably talking about the transformation from Sci-Fi to generic Slasher/Horror (in several scenes).

 

[venus_ice]

i will say Sunshine has a bad ass soundtrack... heard that song in Kick-Ass when Hit Girl saves bigdaddy...

amazingly off topic in here

Epic soundtrack. A lot of films use it

 

[Liam_H]

Ah, you're probably talking about the transformation from Sci-Fi to generic Slasher/Horror (in several scenes).

Exactly. I have no problem with it going in that direction but it was far less interesting than what we got before. It doesn't kill the movie for me like it does for some people, still enjoyed it as a whole.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

i will say Sunshine has a bad ass soundtrack... heard that song in Kick-Ass when Hit Girl saves bigdaddy...

amazingly off topic in here

Yes! By God, yes!

The soundtrack was special.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Exactly. I have no problem with it going in that direction but it was far less interesting than what we got before. It doesn't kill the movie for me like it does for some people, still enjoyed it as a whole.

Yeah, I kinda disliked the direction the film took but the ending made up for it.

 

[The Riddler]

amazing opening weekend for avengers. can't wait to see it this tuesday.

i doubt tdkr can beat that weekend take, but all i know is that i'll be there opening day.

 

[Iceman]

Yep, Avatar's story was derived of plots from Ferngully, Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas.

I don't think that matters.

It wasn't even a well-written story at the end of the day.

That's what I think matters. I don't think the story was that bad though, just nothing special. It was a great cinematic event though to me.

Avatar's visuals/SFX were awe-spiring but that wasn't enough for me.

Now, The Avengers' story might have been simplistic but it was executed far better than Avatar's.

Kind of agree on Avengers. Again the story is not going to win any awards but there is so much awesome on screen, the (classic) characters are all great and collaborate really well in dialogue and action. So even without a complex story it's enough to rate alongside ESB, ROTK & TDK as my top films. With TDKR I expect the story/dialogue scenes to be the main event ahead of the action. I love Batman fighting and using his gadgets & also the named villains doing their thing but vehicle sections not so much (police car chases etc).

 

[Anita18]

People are saying we're going to "lose" now. We'll show them right?

If WB wanted to win, they would have put TDKR in IMAX 3D. Instead, they preferred keeping Nolan happy and making more money for them in the future.

The viewers won (in addition to Nolan), IMO. Every review I've seen about Avengers says that the 3D was only so-so and doesn't add much to the experience.

There is no superhero fatigue. Only fatigue of bad superhero movies. Like Green Lantern and Wolverine and their ilk.

 

[Iceman]

If WB wanted to win, they would have put TDKR in IMAX 3D. Instead, they preferred keeping Nolan happy and making more money for them in the future.

The viewers won (in addition to Nolan), IMO. Every review I've seen about Avengers says that the 3D was only so-so and doesn't add much to the experience.

Yeah it doesn't. I mean it's not bad compared to other 3D out there but you don't miss out on anything really if you give it a miss.

Exactly, this is not a competition except to those who want to enjoy less awesome things and have lower mental capacity. WB have had a major success with this franchise and it's more important to preserve the artistic merit of the film as intended by its director and keep this genius who they will be working with in future happy than the extra dollars. I would rather see TDKR In IMAX than 3D anyway.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

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[DoomsdayApex]

I don't think that matters.That's what I think matters. I don't think the story was that bad though, just nothing special. It was a great cinematic event though to me.

No disagreement here. Although Avatar harbored a derivative story, so have many modern Hollywood movies. However, Cameron didn't try to add his own spin on it. He simply slapped the story together with minimal effort and built it around the visuals/SFX.

Kind of agree on Avengers. Again the story is not going to win any awards but there is so much awesome on screen, the (classic) characters are all great and collaborate really well in dialogue and action. So even without a complex story it's enough to rate alongside ESB, ROTK & TDK as my top films. With TDKR I expect the story/dialogue scenes to be the main event ahead of the action. I love Batman fighting and using his gadgets & also the named villains doing their thing but vehicle sections not so much (police car chases etc).

Agreed. Whedon's story for The Avengers might have been one of the weak aspects of the film (the entire first act and half of the second was malnourished and unmemorable) but the interactions between the characters, the humor and the witty one-liners made up for it.

Yep. Nolan is focusing on his story and dialogue over the action set-pieces. It's not that there won't be any stellar action sequences (cuz there will be) but the reason why Nolan's films have been praised from here to the moon is because of his storytelling abilities.

 

[Iceman]

No disagreement here. Although Avatar harbored a derivative story, so have many modern Hollywood movies. However, Cameron didn't try to add his own spin on it. He simply slapped the story together with minimal effort and built it around the visuals/SFX.

Quite a few of my favourite directors are getting older now and I get the feeling they are losing a tiny bit of their edge/coolness on stories. They are still capable of making good films, just not cool films. Maybe a bit too family friendly, maybe just a little bit naff!

Agreed. Whedon's story for The Avengers might have been one of the weak aspects of the film (the entire first act and half of the second was malnourished and unmemorable) but the interactions between the characters, the humor and the witty one-liners made up for it.

Yep. Nolan is focusing on his story and dialogue over the action set-pieces. It's not that there won't be any stellar action sequences (cuz there will be) but the reason why Nolan's films have been praised from here to the moon is because of his storytelling abilities.

I don't know if everyone likes it but the interactions between [BLACKOUT]nearly all the characters on the helicarrier is one of my favourite bits of the whole film. Just love how all these greats of Marvel history are bouncing off one another.[/BLACKOUT] Humour is normally very bad in comic films, not because it shouldn't be there..it's just often poorly executed or overdone to the point of taking the weight out of the serious stuff. This is the best execution I can remember outside of a comedy, and it's also better than many modern comedies out there. The action is of course crazy in scale but still well choreographed. It's quite easy to keep track of where everyone is supposed to be at any point in time (something Michael Bay is hilariously bad at). Avengers is simply the comic I read come to life.

Nolan keeps a great urgency through his films that keeps the tension (and awesomeness) rolling non stop. Don't think I've had a chance to breathe since the end of Batman Begins! I've spent a few decades arguing with people that Batman written properly, seriously and with a dark tone would be one of the biggest films ever. Im glad Nolan proved me right.

To move back to the topic, I think TDKR is still on for a billion, even if it has to get a bigger chunk of that from overseas. To get anywhere near to TDK's domestic gross I think it's going to have to be at least as good if not a bit better than TDK. I think that's going to depend a lot on how Nolan ends the trilogy and I'm confident as I've always said resolving plotlines and ending films is one of Nolan's biggest strengths.

Dude it's just amazing that we have the luxury of discussing two of the very best comic properties that are now absolute heavyweights of Hollywood. Good times man.

 

[souNdwAve89]

Well said guys. I LOVED The Avengers and seeing TDKR trailer on the big screen got me even more pumped. Yeah, The Avengers probably won't win awards for their story, but for sure they'll have a chance at CGI, action, and what not. It was awesome to see the heroes on the big screen doing what they do best. Whedon did a superb job at balancing each character and giving them their memorable moments. The Avengers did really well at the box office, but I think TDKR will beat it by a small margin.

 

[Street Vendor]

Well said guys. I LOVED The Avengers and seeing TDKR trailer on the big screen got me even more pumped. Yeah, The Avengers probably won't win awards for their story, but for sure they'll have a chance at CGI, action, and what not. It was awesome to see the heroes on the big screen doing what they do best. Whedon did a superb job at balancing each character and giving them their memorable moments. The Avengers did really well at the box office, but I think TDKR will beat it by a small margin.

I think both movies are gonna have a final gross really close to each other. We can call it a tie in the Marvel/DC "war"!

 

[miggizle85]

I've been calling it for weeks and now I'm almost sure of it. TDKR will have a $210+ million opening. The fact that Hunger Games, and Avengers have made a mockery of the old records is a clear sign to me that movies are going to be HUGE this year. Ticket inflation, 3D/IMAX premiums and just the lack of competition around the huge tentpoles is translating to outstanding numbers.

I'll even go as far as predict a $220 million opening weekend. You'll see. Come July 20th you can quote me on it. If I were the other studios I'd clear the way for TDKR. "Ice Age" and "Ted" might wanna think about moving it's release to July 4th, and "The Watch" and "Step Up" might wanna look for some cozy little spot in August.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Honestly with the way opening weekends records have been falling left and right these past few years i feel a film having very strong legs is becoming more impressive to me.

I think 2nd weekend box office is the better determinant now to a film's success. There have been too many one weekend wonders followed by 60%+ drops.

TDK previously held the largest 2nd week gross ever before avatar slightly overtook it. If tdkr can take it back that's a great sign to this film making huge numbers.