The Dark Knight The Christian Bale/Bruce Wayne thread

[Steelsheen]

A bit??? Bale insulted the guy 4 minutes, like if he was an animal. In front of all the staff that was shooting the film. That was just mean.

he may have been mean, but then the DP was also an idiot for doing something out of protocol. also if you bother to listen to the tirade carefully it wasnt 4 minutes of ranting non-stop, it was about 2 or 3 outbursts over the course of 4 minutes. his 1st outburst lasted only about a minute. then someone said something to set him off. and just as he was settling down, something set him off AGAIN.

Most of the people here are acting like Bale is the best man in the world for accepting he made a mistake. Of course he had to apologize, his manager and the studio probably told him to do that. Its bad promotion for the Terminator movie. I wonder if you guys would defend a George Clooney or Val Kilmer the same way.

i would have the same respect for anybody who would own up to a mistake, regardless if they are celebrities or not.

and let me tell you this about Christian Bale-- that is one man that will not be pressured to do anything he doesnt want to do careerwise. he means what he says and does what he says. believe me when i say he's no studio puppet. if it was the studio or whomever pressuring him to apologize as a PR act all he could've done was have his agent send a letter to the press. but no. he took the time to call in and go on record and apologized and gave a complete perspective of what went down. truth to be told he didnt even have to apologize, all he couldve done was downplay the whole thing by saying it was 6 months ago and that the spat between him the DP has been resolved long before. but he didnt downplay. he didnt even blame the DP (even when obviously the DP wasnt exactly guiltless in all this). he even praised and defended the DP's work on Terminator. what kind of self-centered pr*ck would do that?

 

[I Am The Knight]

I only have love for this man and the bunch of catchphrases he gave us for 2009. :heart:

Yes!!! t:

 

[Bats]

So that excuses Bale???? That other celebs have done the same???? He and those other celebs should get professional help. So now if someone steals a house or murders someone it's ok because a lot of people do it????

I hope he really meant that he is sorry. But what surprises me, is that you people still have respect for a guy who insults and humiliates people the way Bale did.

YES!!!!!!!!!!! LET'S EXECUTE HIM!!! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!

How dare he lose his temper in such a pivotal, demanding scene!! What they really should do is fine him $14,234,200.99.......take away his house(s), car(s) & shoes.....slap any children he has in their face.......and force a vasectomy on him!! That'll teach him!

In case anyone is wondering, yes, I'm being sarcastic. Methinks some people are getting too worked up over this.

 

[Nina7]

I find it incredibly ignorant that people are up in arms over the work conditions of an industry which exists in its own little bubble and has absolutely NOTHING to do with the general public, aside from the few hours of entertainment when the project is done.

While say, we consider it completely normal for doctors, nurses, and medical residents to have 30-hour shifts.

If you can't take being chewed out on a regular basis, don't work in Hollywood. It's not a big deal. If only everyone could escape the mess that is our medical system that easily, but we can't. I mean, I didn't go to medical school, but I'm going to have to see a doctor SOMEtime.

What I found highly amusing in the media and around the interwebs was the moral outrage displayed. It was so ridiculously over the top that you just had to laugh at it. How dare Christian Bale, international movie star, insult that poor, poor, defenseless stage hand. Never mind that he's the Director of Photography, but in their minds he's a vulnerable p.a. being thrown to the wolves because he failed to put enough milk in Bale's latte. Methinks this moral outrage should be reserved for something a little more deserving. I'm sure if they think real hard, they'll be able to come with something(like your medical field concerns, Anita - I think you should rant about it).

 

[Leenie]

Well, it's good that he owned up to what he did. Like I said in an earlier post, I was less than impressed by his tantrum ... But he admitted to acting like a punk, and I respect that.

He took full responsibility for what he did. Good for him.

 

[ultimatefan]

Yeah, he acted like an a-hole, but you know what, THIS is the kinda thing that makes this guy perfect to play characters like Batman or John Connor or Patrick Bateman. He has that rage, that intensity.

And let´s face it, the DP DID act like a total amateur in the middle of a megabudget production. He may not have deserved THAT big a trashing, but it wasn´t for nothing either.

He apologized, he did the right, responsible thing. Maybe he still hates that DP´s guts, who cares, he took the responsibility for his actions, like a grown man and a professional. Move on.

 

[Polux]

So that excuses Bale???? That other celebs have done the same???? He and those other celebs should get professional help. So now if someone steals a house or murders someone it's ok because a lot of people do it????

I hope he really meant that he is sorry. But what surprises me, is that you people still have respect for a guy who insults and humiliates people the way Bale did.

You were bullied a lot, didn´t ya ??



Polux

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Man, some of you guys are pathetic. Christian wasn't accused of raping someone, or beating down an old woman or something. Get off your damn high ground already.

 

[Bat-Mite]

So that excuses Bale???? That other celebs have done the same???? He and those other celebs should get professional help. So now if someone steals a house or murders someone it's ok because a lot of people do it????

I hope he really meant that he is sorry. But what surprises me, is that you people still have respect for a guy who insults and humiliates people the way Bale did.

Professional help? No. Yelling at someone who is repeatedly ruining your concentration during an already stressful shoot does not warrant seeking "professional help." He lost his temper (as EVERYONE is prone to due under the right circumstances) and then he apologized.

And it's not valid to compare what happened to theft or murder. Can you get any more ridiculous? Frankly, I'm more concerned for the mental state of people like you than I am for Bale. I mean... you're comparing him to a murderer for yelling at someone and saying a few cuss words.

 

[Anita18]

What I found highly amusing in the media and around the interwebs was the moral outrage displayed. It was so ridiculously over the top that you just had to laugh at it. How dare Christian Bale, international movie star, insult that poor, poor, defenseless stage hand. Never mind that he's the Director of Photography, but in their minds he's a vulnerable p.a. being thrown to the wolves because he failed to put enough milk in Bale's latte. Methinks this moral outrage should be reserved for something a little more deserving. I'm sure if they think real hard, they'll be able to come with something(like your medical field concerns, Anita - I think you should rant about it).

Exactly. People don't know what the hierarchy on a set is. First it's the director, then the AD/actor (depending), and then it's the DP. A DP is no slouch on a set.

And yeah, I've already ranted about my medical field concerns vs Bale's tirade on another forum, and a few people were like, "WTF, that's so OT" and a few others were like, "Right on!"

 

[Ferd]

Today at NYCC Mc G was there to show a small clip of Terminator, and he made a few comments (teasing) about Christian and the incident.

He also called Christian's house and spoke with his wife, Sibi briefly.

Here is the link to the article about it: http://www.newsarama.com/film/090207-nycc09-warner-watchmen.html

and the more specific part where he talks about Chrisitan:

 

[nintendo nerd]

You were bullied a lot, didn´t ya ??



Polux

Not really. But I hate when people are treated like that. When they abuse of their power.

 

[nintendo nerd]

Professional help? No. Yelling at someone who is repeatedly ruining your concentration during an already stressful shoot does not warrant seeking "professional help." He lost his temper (as EVERYONE is prone to due under the right circumstances) and then he apologized.

And it's not valid to compare what happened to theft or murder. Can you get any more ridiculous? Frankly, I'm more concerned for the mental state of people like you than I am for Bale. I mean... you're comparing him to a murderer for yelling at someone and saying a few cuss words.

I'm not comparing Bale to a murderer. But you guys are acting like if some actors insult people its ok, must of theM do it. So I used an example that since people are murdered and stOLEN all over the world it's ok to do it???? I don't think so.

Yeah I lose my temper sometimes, but I never insulted and humillated a person the way Bale did.

 

[Ferd]

I'm not comparing Bale to a murderer. But you guys are acting like if some actors insult people its ok, must of theM do it. So I used an example that since people are murdered and stOLEN all over the world it's ok to do it???? I don't think so.

Yeah I lose my temper sometimes, but I never insulted and humillated a person the way Bale did.

I'm still wondering what you think the man deserves since his apology wasn't enough for you. A public flogging? Drawn and quartered? Just what exactly will quench this blood lust for Bale you have?

We teach children if they say they're sorry they can be forgiven, it's sad you still haven't learned that lesson.

And dude, seriously. HE DIDN'T SAY A SINGLE WORD TO YOU!

 

[-JKR-]

If actors insult someone it's not okay. When PEOPLE insult someone it's not okay. But things like that simply HAPPEN.

Man, it's life. You can have a bad day, insult someone. It happens all the time, for much less, and often everything's okay again after a while.

You know what's uglier? People abusing the "anonymity" of the Internet to bash and insult people or actors, with comments like "throw him out of Hollywood". Who are you to judge someone? You could have a bad day, too, and insult someone... who knows? Or are you a saint? The difference is that if you'd do something similar, it won't get leaked on the Internet!

 

[nathaniel]

SoMemone said it perfectly it was an abuse of power actors are like that they think they are above everybody else but some actors have the class to go with that arrogance Tom Cruise gets a lot of flak but the guy has been a hollywood a lister reeling of hits sinCe the early 80s and still from, what i see, acts the perfect gentleman on camera and off it. This class and the aformentioned hit films is what makes him a hollywood all time great while Bale is on the long list of good actors who briefly hit the big time and are always up there along with russel crowe, cOLIN fARREL ECT ECT.

 

[Ferd]

SoMemone said it perfectly it was an abuse of power actors are like that they think they are above everybody else but some actors have the class to go with that arrogance Tom Cruise gets a lot of flak but the guy has been a hollywood a lister reeling of hits sinCe the early 80s and still from, what i see, acts the perfect gentleman on camera and off it. This class and the aformentioned hit films is what makes him a hollywood all time great while Bale is on the long list of good actors who briefly hit the big time and are always up there along with russel crowe, cOLIN fARREL ECT ECT.

I'm sorry but did you actually say that Tom Cruise acts like a gentleman? Did you miss that whole drama with him a couple years back where he bashed postpartum women and made an ass out of himself on Oprah and with Matt Lauer?

I'm not saying he should be ridiculed any more or less than Bale, I'm just pointing out that the man is quite a bit flawed himself.

(And btw, Bale has had a career since he was 12 years old. So I'm not sure he fits in the 'briefly' category. Just saying.)

 

[Nina7]

Ferd, I couldn't agree w/you more about Tom Cruise. My best friend suffered from terrible postpartum and to have Cruise say "Postpartum? Ladies, ain't no such thing. Here, have some vitamins!" was so infuriating. And he never apologized for that either. He still thinks there's no such thing as postpartum depression. That was far more insulting and harmful than CB's private on set rant. Sorry for the OT rant, but I still think it's so harmful that Cruise said that.

 

[Anita18]

Ferd, I couldn't agree w/you more about Tom Cruise. My best friend suffered from terrible postpartum and to have Cruise say "Postpartum? Ladies, ain't no such thing. Here, have some vitamins!" was so infuriating. And he never apologized for that either. He still thinks there's no such thing as postpartum depression. That was far more insulting and harmful than CB's private on set rant. Sorry for the OT rant, but I still think it's so harmful that Cruise said that.

What Bale did and what Cruise did are completely different. What Bale did was on-set while he was working as an actor, and has nothing to do with him thrusting his private beliefs onto the public.

What Cruise did was publicly endorse his personal beliefs. It's similar to Mel Gibson's drunken rant as well, and since both Cruise and Gibson also work as producers, it can be also surmised that supporting any movie of theirs could also be supporting their personal ideologies. Bale doesn't have the kind of pull they have, because he's only worked as an actor. And again, his rant happened on-set and was work-related, having nothing to do with his personal beliefs.

IMO, Cruise's personal beliefs on postpartum depression are not harmful. He's nuts over Scientology, we all know that. It WAS harmful that he said so in a public interview, because he is so famous he actually might influence others. I don't think any celebrity should be offering solutions to an issue in which they have absolutely no background in.

 

[Nina7]

Yes, that's what I mean about Cruise's postpartum statements being harmful. I don't care what he believes. He can believe in aliens for all I care(and apparently does). That's his prerogative. However, it is harmful that he is saying medically unfounded statements as if they were facts in a public forum such as the Today show. I admit being biased against Cruise because I work in an allied health profession and think his public views on medically related issues are dangerously ill informed. Okay, that is the end of my OT Tom Cruise rant. Oh, and to kinda make this post on topic: I'm glad Christian doesn't tell the world his personal beliefs on politics, religion, etc...I don't wanna know.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Is this still going on?

Look, who gives a toss? The guy got abused, by the sounds of things, deservedly so. Deal with it. Why should Bale have to ***** foot around, why should anyone ***** foot around? If the guy was repeatedly ****ing his job up, therefore ruing other peoples jobs then he deserves to get chewed out.

If I was Bale I wouldn't of apologized. It shouldn't of been leaked to anyone outside that set anyway, why the **** she he have to apologize to us?

 

[Ferd]

Is this still going on?

Look, who gives a toss? The guy got abused, by the sounds of things, deservedly so. Deal with it. Why should Bale have to ***** foot around, why should anyone ***** foot around? If the guy was repeatedly ****ing his job up, therefore ruing other peoples jobs then he deserves to get chewed out.

If I was Bale I wouldn't of apologized. It shouldn't of been leaked to anyone outside that set anyway, why the **** she he have to apologize to us?

I agree with you 10,000% I don't feel he owed anyone an apology except for those on the set (and to my knowledge he did that 6 months before the tape even came out.) But whatever, that's done and over with as far as I'm concerned. The horse is dead we should stop beating it.

My above comment was in reaction to the user inferring that Tom Cruise has always been perceived perfectly by the public eye and therefore a better person/celebrity whatever than Christian Bale. I simply pointed out that Tom Cruise has displayed some flaws, or at least made a few public faux pas. He and Bale's "mistakes" are entirely different situations as Anita pointed out, but still what they each did was not received well by a large group of the public with very strong opinions.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea thats the thing with being famous. It's a double edged sword. The money, the glorious lifestyle, but then you are always being scrutinized by the media and people in general. Bale was one of those actors that has always tried to keep a low profile, I commend him for that. He isn't one of these guys who has tried to turn his name into a brand. But as soon as he makes a single slip up, like he has recently with the assault bollox and now this he will be pin pointed.

I bet the majority of the people who have heard his outburst don't realize it was last year and that he has already apologized to the people on set including the DP.

And yea, he shouldn't have to apologize to anyone else apart from the people who were actually there, and he did that like 8 months ago.

 

[Crook]

Most situations involving apologies and thank you's aren't necessary either, but we do them anyway out of courtesy. It's natural to explain yourself when people see a side of you that isn't flattering, whether you could have helped it or not.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Hmmm fair point. But I don't think he has to apologize. Explain his actions? Sure. But why should he actually apologize to anyone else but the guy he abused and the other people on set?