The Clinton Thread

[Abaddon]

Oh, come on Hillary has already addressed the affair in various appearances and that book she wrote. I doubt the question would have ever been asked if it'd been anyone other than Chelsea. He might as well have cut the ******** and asked her how she felt about her father's infidelity.

 

[Tron5000]

Oh, come on Hillary has already addressed the affair in various appearances and that book she wrote. I doubt the question would have ever been asked if it'd been anyone other than Chelsea. He might as well have cut the ******** and asked her how she felt about her father's infidelity.

Perhaps he should have. That seems a relevant question, as it pertains to the character of the 2 individuals who once again wish to call the White House "Home."

Hillary has addressed the issue, and she has also lied about the issue. Not only that, but she is aiding and abetting a felon based on the fact that she is harboring a rapist (see: Juanita Broaddrick).

 

[Addendum]

Then ask the questions to Hillary. It doesn't take a damn genius to grasp that.

Then again, this is the media and they're getting paid to ask questions, not think

 

[Tron5000]

Then ask the questions to Hillary. It doesn't take a damn genius to grasp that.

Then again, this is the media and they're getting paid to ask questions, not think

Well I guess I'm not a damn genius then. "Shucks!" to me then.

What is so difficult about understanding that the behavior of your parents in the past is a sign of their likely behavior in the future? And why is it OK to put your daughter out on the front lines yet feel that you can protect her from the bullets? What occurred in the White House while her parents first inhabited it is likely congruous to what will occur the second go-round. Chelsea was there, she witnessed it, and she is now speaking out on behalf of Mommy's campaign. She went to a good school. Presumably she's a smart person. If she doesn't want to answer the questions, she (and her parents) should not put herself into a position where she is expected to do so.

 

[Addendum]

If I have a question about person A, I don't go to person C and ask them about person A. I direct my question to person A. The middle man, or in this case middle-woman, is cut out.

And having re-read the first post, it wasn't the media. It was some random dude. Sorry sportsfan. A person is not required to answer every single question in a way that pleases the person that asked it.

 

[Tron5000]

If I have a question about person A, I don't go to person C and ask them about person A. I direct my question to person A. The middle man, or in this case middle-woman, is cut out.

And having re-read the first post, it wasn't the media. It was some random dude. Sorry sportsfan. A person is not required to answer every single question

Then don't ask Person C to answer for Person A. When you are cast in that role of surrogate, you are speaking for the other person.

And Chelsea isn't being asked about her mother's position on the issue. She is being asked specific questions regarding all 3 members of the Clinton family; Her father, her mother and herself.

Like I said, if she doesn't have any business answering these questions, then keep her at home. Obama has certainly had to answer for his pastor. Cheney had to endure criticism from Republicans for his support of his daughter's lesbian lifestyle. It comes with the territory.

 

[Addendum]

And she answered the question, just not in a way that made you happy. Awaits more whine from you

 

[Tron5000]

And she answered the question, just not in a way that made you happy. Awaits more whine from you

That's unnecessary. You can try to make your point without resorting to that.

And obviously the one who was unhappy with the entire situation was not myself, but you. I'm not the one getting all upset because a 30-year-old campaigning for her mother had to field a tough question. I quite enjoyed the entire exchange, as I'm equally enjoying watching Dems rip one another apart.

So, good sir, it is not I who is whining about the state of affairs in Democrat campaigns, but it is you. It must be a bad feeling to feel that you have to support such sordid, lying, criminal individuals.

 

[Addendum]

I don't give a damn about either the republicans or democrats. They de-evolved. As for the entire exchange was random dude and Chelsea, it gave me laughter and a grin. What should I be unhappy about

 

[Tron5000]

I don't give a damn about either the republicans or democrats. They devolved.

Apathy...I like it. That way you can stay home on Election Day and demonize whichever party happens to win as it fits your agenda. Bravo. Well played, sir.

 

[Addendum]

I enjoy my cynicism, sarcasm, skepticism and general misanthropy. Besides, no one in Washington has shown any proof of higher brain functions

 

[Malice]

Honestly...
She got herself into the crossfire when she started speaking politically about her mother.
Granted she doesnt have to answer anything she wants to, but she is no longer off limits.

 

[Tron5000]

Honestly...
She got herself into the crossfire when she started speaking politically about her mother.
Granted she doesnt have to answer anything she wants to, but she is no longer off limits.

She can decline to answer any question she chooses. Hell, that's preferable to misspeaking, or whatever Hillary's excuse of the day may be. But the press has the right to ask her questions about the character and integrity of her parents. Kind of comes with the territory.

 

[Malice]

She can decline to answer any question she chooses. Hell, that's preferable to misspeaking, or whatever Hillary's excuse of the day may be. But the press has the right to ask her questions about the character and integrity of her parents. Kind of comes with the territory.

Absolutely.

 

[kane9321]

Obama lead McCain is every poll until Huckabee left. Whenever Hillary gets her ass outta the campaign, Obama will go back over him. Same goes for her if he gets out, really. Right now everybodys bitter; if the polls obama vs. mccain than Hillary voters vote for McCain to make it seem as though Obamas weaker, ect. The biggest problem noone takes into a count is while Hillarys voters will rally around Obama, Obamas wont rally around her. They just wont vote period. All these young folks and black people who have never voted before will keep it that way fi he aint the nominee; cant say the same about Hillarys people and the DNC knows that.

Come November, whever it is thats running for the democrat will win barring some major turn of events. A Obama-McCain or Clinton-McCain debate would be ajoke; either democrat would make a mockery of the stuff that comes outta that guys mouth. He really is Bush 2.0 except hes saying the stupid stuff BEFORE he's won. Just wait till Obama ot Hillary taunt the "100 year war" quote against him; he'll get booed off the stage and his own people know it.

truth be told

 

[Matt]

Honestly...
She got herself into the crossfire when she started speaking politically about her mother.
Granted she doesnt have to answer anything she wants to, but she is no longer off limits.

She can decline to answer any question she chooses. Hell, that's preferable to misspeaking, or whatever Hillary's excuse of the day may be. But the press has the right to ask her questions about the character and integrity of her parents. Kind of comes with the territory.

Exactly. It would be one thing if reporters were showing up at her apartment and questioning her about this, but they're not. She decided to go on the campaign trail, therefore she is fair game to any question.

 

[Memphis Slim]

According to some around here, that would be an impossibility.

"A white dude from the South agreeing ideologically with a black man? Can't be!"

Everyone knows we're all just racist folk who kill animals in our spare time (Michael Vick included) and attend Klan rallies in between our gay-hating extremist church services.

They're so "open-minded" that they fail to understand that not all black people think the same way. Some are conservative.....love their country....support the military......respect others (but may still disagree with their lifestyles).

Which makes them not as "open-minded" as they think.

I don't walk lock step to any collective if I think they are wrong on an issue.

 

[Marx]

That's unnecessary. You can try to make your point without resorting to that.

And obviously the one who was unhappy with the entire situation was not myself, but you. I'm not the one getting all upset because a 30-year-old campaigning for her mother had to field a tough question. I quite enjoyed the entire exchange, as I'm equally enjoying watching Dems rip one another apart.

So, good sir, it is not I who is whining about the state of affairs in Democrat campaigns, but it is you. It must be a bad feeling to feel that you have to support such sordid, lying, criminal individuals.

That goes for all of the Republicans too. Dems aren't the only ones in this situation. Just because McCain got the nom doesn't mean he won over the party. He got the nom largely through independent support.

 

[Tron5000]

That goes for all of the Republicans too. Dems aren't the only ones in this situation. Just because McCain got the nom doesn't mean he won over the party. He got the nom largely through independent support.

And independent support is exactly what you need to win a GE. The hard-core wingers on each side will vote for their party no matter what. You need the independent cross-over vote to win the presidency.

 

[Addendum]

And a steady supply of bull**** is a given

 

[Marx]

And independent support is exactly what you need to win a GE. The hard-core wingers on each side will vote for their party no matter what. You need the independent cross-over vote to win the presidency.

And a steady supply of bull**** is a given

Very true. We'll see which was the independents swing this time around. Obama pulls in alot too.

 

[Tron5000]

Very true. We'll see which was the independents swing this time around. Obama pulls in alot too.

He did, but I believe his indiscretions regarding his associations with (and explanations of) certain individuals will be his undoing. Independents are beholden to neither party, but they want a candidate in whom they believe they can place their trust. I think Obama is pushing these people away.

 

[Marx]

He did, but I believe his indiscretions regarding his associations with (and explanations of) certain individuals will be his undoing. Independents are beholden to neither party, but they want a candidate in whom they believe they can place their trust. I think Obama is pushing these people away.

I can't disagree with that Tron. He is definately hurting his chances.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

What am I supposed to face? Obama hasn't won yet. He's leading the Democratic Primary. He still loses the general, if we're going by polling data which is what everyone else seems to be basing their opinions off of. And if the Democratic Party doesn't want to lose this November, they'll be wise to kick both their asses to the curb and bring in Gore to take on the nomination. Or simply forfeit this contest, let McCain win, and get their act together in four years so they can run the election they should have run from the very beginning.

If Hillary has the class to endorse Barack, her followers will come around. THAT will unite the party.

Kudoes on your list, by the way. Although it's not as savvy as mine.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I will admit though: this Bosnia crap has stuck to her longer than I expected. They are STILL talking about it--and the polls are seeing her slide as a result.