The Clinton Thread II

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  1. Marx

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    CLINTON CAMPAIGN DEBT DOWN TO $6.4 MILLION
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/21/clinton.debt/index.html

     
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    I would like to see Caroline get the position, but I'm a little more hesitant about it than I was a couple weeks ago. She needs to get her face out there a little more and start answering some of the questions that are being thrown at her by the media instead of running away from them. I'm not exactly sure what her views are politically, though luckily, her being a Kennedy makes it pretty easy to guess. She's still my number one choice and I would be absolutely ecstatic if she was New York's next Senator.
     
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    And she was #2 on the Political Winners of 2009. Good for her...
     
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    The Clintons are very well respected within the Democratic Party. I don't think she has gone through that sharp of a turn around. I think it's more a case that she's finally getting the respect she deserves from those outside the party.
     
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    This part of the poll cracks me up...

    Most admired men...

    Of course Obama is #1, duh...2nd is Bush 43, 3rd is Nelson Mandela...tied for 4th are the following...lmao.

     
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    I don't understand how Michelle Obama is so high. It would make more sense if it was Sotomayor for an example.
     
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    Crying after during New Hampshire was the best political move of her career.

    I liked how Palin was in second place.
     
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    I find that disturbing.
     
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    The outcome was 16%-15% Clinton.
     
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    We can disagree with her all day long, but the fact is...there are MANY Americans that she resonates with, and in a powerful way.

    I don't really understand why my sister likes her so much, but she does...and I think because when you pull back the bad and very different interviews, the late night talk show hosts monologues, and Levi...they (my sister and others) see someone that speaks for them, we may disagree with their opinions, but they certainly have a right to have them, speak out, and follow someone that they agree with on a political as well as social level. You have a liberal to moderate at #1, and a Conservative at #2...that pretty much speaks to how our country falls on the political spectrum, AND, the fact that these two women's names have been strongly in the media throughout 2009 tells the greatest reason for the 1 and 2 as far as I'm concerned.

    I don't necessarily see anything disturbing about it, not really surprised either.

    For those like me that would rather have Clinton as President rather than Obama, kinda brings a little smile to my face.

    The most shocking thing is how far down a First Lady is, that is unprecedented...and quite surprising.
     
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    *sighs*

    Those were the days...
     
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    I heard on the radio that Clinton and HW got stuck in a room with one bed. Clinton told HW to use the bed, and he slept on the floor.

    As much of a non-fan of Clinton as I am, I've gotta give the man a :up: for showing respect to his elder.
     
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    Good for her...

    She kills 3 birds with one stone...

    1. Puts an American face there, which will help in the recovery...
    2. Doesn't make it a Security nightmare with Obama there...
    3. Gives Obama a chance to help out Coakley like he did Corzine...lol
     
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    Good for her...

    She kills 3 birds with one stone...

    1. Puts an American face there, which will help in the recovery...
    2. Doesn't make it a Security nightmare with Obama there...
    3. Gives Obama a chance to help out Coakley like he did Corzine...lol
     
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    Clinton Demands Unrestricted 'Net Access

    Hillary Rodham Clinton blasted China and other countries that restrict Internet access to their citizens in a speech Thursday morning, citing new policy initiatives to foster freedom.
    In the wide-ranging address at Washington's Newseum, Clinton said that in the last year there has been what she called a "spike in threats to the free flow of information." She announced plans to make unrestricted access to the Internet a top foreign-policy priority.
    The announcement comes in the wake of accusations last week that Chinese hackers penetrated Google's computer networks.
    "We look to the Chinese government to conduct a through and transparent review" following the incident, Clinton said, arguing that countries that restrict free access to information and basic Internet freedom risk walling themselves off in the next century. She said the U.S. would address differences with China on Internet freedom "candidly and consistently."
    Clinton cited Tunisia and Uzbekistan for stepping up their censorship of the Internet as well. And she said that in Vietnam, access to popular social networking sites has suddenly disappeared.
    State Department officials have said they intend soon to lodge a formal complaint with Chinese officials over the Google matter, which a senior Chinese government official said Thursday should not affect U.S.-China relations.

    Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei said in Beijing, "The Google case should not be linked with relations between the two governments and countries; otherwise, it's an over-interpretation," according to the official Xinhua News Agency.
    The growing role of the Internet in foreign policy became clear last year during protests in Iran after allegations of election fraud. The government tried to crack down on protesters' Internet communications, but they circumvented digital blockades to send out video and Twitter messages about violence against demonstrators.
    In one new initiative, the State Department plans to offer financial support to grass-roots movements that promote Internet freedom and advance U.S. diplomatic goals. Clinton unveiled a competition to develop the best tools, citing an application from Microsoft that could bring digital health care to remote locations.
    Clinton also hopes to diminish the "honor" beatings and killings of women in the Middle East by family members who discover they are using social media on the Internet, such as Facebook or Twitter, said Alec Ross, a senior adviser.
    The secretary of state cited plans to convene a high-level meeting on Internet freedom next month with those firms that provide network access, in another effort to foster freedom online.
    Clinton sees Internet freedom as critical to America's longstanding promotion of democracy abroad, Mr. Ross added. She aims to shrink the proportion of the global population who live in countries that censor the Internet, he said.
    "When we sit across the table from governments and talk about what matters to us, this is now on the table," Mr Ross said.
    In her remarks, Clinton said it is clear that information technologies are transforming the world, yet it is unclear how that transformation will affect the human rights and welfare of much of the world's population
     
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    Tall talk, when America is trying to regulate the internet (net neutrality bill). This is like an American lecturing the Chinese of the virtues of fiscal responsibility
     
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