The Clinton Thread

[Demon Within]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now McCain is up over either of them in national polls.

True. For the moment.

 

[Demon Within]

He has a double digit lead against Hillary and a significant lead against Obama in the polls...

7%.

 

[The Senator]

He has a double digit lead against Hillary and a significant lead against Obama in the polls...

I don't know where you're getting your information from, considering a CBS news poll issued today has Hillary ahead by two points and Obama ahead by five against McCain. Meanwhile, a USA Today/ Gallup poll issued on Tuesday had Clinton five points ahead of McCain, and a CNN poll released yesterday had her two points ahead of him.

So the polls, at least, show that the candidates are virtually tied...

 

[The Senator]

I think it goes without saying, but an independent bid by Barack Obama will destroy the Democratic Party and will hand the election to John McCain. Obama certainly has the organization and the money raising abilities to be a top contender. I think he may even come in second place. But it certainly won't be a close second.

If Obama runs, he will not win a single state. Neither will Hillary Clinton. It will be a 535-3 electoral victory for McCain (since DC always votes 90% Democratic, I feel that one of the Dems will come out on top), which would be the largest victory in Presidential politics ever.

 

[StorminNorman]

I don't know where you're getting your information from, considering a CBS news poll issued today has Hillary ahead by two points and Obama ahead by five against McCain. Meanwhile, a USA Today/ Gallup poll issued on Tuesday had Clinton five points ahead of McCain, and a CNN poll released yesterday had her two points ahead of him.

So the polls, at least, show that the candidates are virtually tied...

Rasmussen is consider among the elite polls. It shows McCain with a double digit lead over Hillary, 7 points over Obama.

But, again, this polling is fairly irrelevant.

 

[comicgirl]

hmmmm. I dont think McCain has enough support from his own party to win no matter what happens. Im a Republican and I refuse to vote for him and iv heard many others say the same. I plan on voting Obama but if he doesnt get the nod im screwed. Heres hoping he deflies the dems if they screw him and goes indy.

If Obama doesn't get the nod, I'll stay home. After all this, I can't stand the thought of the Hill/Bill show for 4 years. McCain? Maybe in '00; not now.

 

[comicgirl]

There’s a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she’s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that “through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as “The “Fellowship,” also known as The Family. Sean Hannity has called Obama’s church a “cult.”

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/20/7798/

WTF?

 

[redfirebird2008]

Interview with the guy who infiltrated The Family:

http://www.alternet.org/story/16167/?page=entire

 

[Excel]

You guys who cares about someones religion??

 

[Kelly]

Are any of them a part of her campaign now?

 

[Marx]

There’s a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she’s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that “through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as “The “Fellowship,” also known as The Family. Sean Hannity has called Obama’s church a “cult.”

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/20/7798/

WTF?

The main reason why Hillary Clinton has been silent on this issue is because if she opens her mouth people will pounce and accuse her of nothing short of damning the world to hell! She could no sooner utter a single word on this subject and someone will spin it in every which way they can. And that's the truth. She's been wise keeping tight-lipped.

 

[Memphis Slim]

oh please!!!! t:

 

[Kelly]

Are any of them a part of her campaign now?

Anyone?

 

[The Senator]

Do you know how many religious groups have cult-sounding names?

I attended a Congregational church simply referred to as "The Congregation."

On campus, I have a non-denominational protestant church group called "The Gathering."

Just because they sound like a 'cult,' that doesn't make them one. And besides that, I don't believe Hillary's minister serves in a top position on her campaign.

So this isn't really a concern of mine.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Do you know how many religious groups have cult-sounding names?

I attended a Congregational church simply referred to as "The Congregation."

On campus, I have a non-denominational protestant church group called "The Gathering."

Just because they sound like a 'cult,' that doesn't make them one. And besides that, I don't believe Hillary's minister serves in a top position on her campaign.

So this isn't really a concern of mine.

It's not the name that's the issue, it's their behavior that's scary. And it's not a church, it's an organization of politicians. They believe they're ordained by God to rule the country.

 

[The Senator]

It's not the name that's the issue, it's their behavior that's scary. And it's not a church, it's an organization of politicians. They believe they're ordained by God to rule the country.

So? These guys believe that God has set them on a path to lead the country. It makes sense, doesn't it? Aren't Christians told that they're put here for a purpose? Don't they think God put them in their current career track or lifestyle for a reason?

I've attended several churches, and I know that the one message I got out of those meetings were that our lives have a specific purpose at the discretion of God. They're politicians. Therefore, it makes sense that they think God put them here to lead the country.

 

[redfirebird2008]

No, the guy that's reporting on it said it sounds like a monarchist, elitist attitude. Divine right. More about preserving their own power than actually doing good for the people of the country. We'll see what happens when he releases his book on it in May. It will likely continue to get ignored.

 

[The Senator]

No, the guy that's reporting on it said it sounds like a monarchist, elitist attitude. Divine right. More about preserving their own power than actually doing good for the people of the country. We'll see what happens when he releases his book on it in May. It will likely continue to get ignored.

Well, if Hillary is a monarch, then Obama is a racist. Hillary's church preaches divine right; and Obama's church preaches hatred towards white folks. Looks like they both have their religious issues.

 

[Darthphere]

Are any of them a part of her campaign now?

Bingo!

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Are any of them a part of her campaign now?

Or better yet, are any of them funding her campaign? Her tax returns might tell the tale.

 

[The Senator]

Or better yet, are any of them funding her campaign? Her tax returns might tell the tale.

I'm loving how people think there's some sort of huge secret hidden in Clinton's personal documents.

News networks overanalyzed her schedule as First Lady a few days ago, because she was in the White House six times when Bill met with Monica Lewinsky.

They think that the papers she wrote when she was First Lady will reveal something 'shocking' about her politics.

They think that the thesis she wrote in college will tell us something we didn't already know about her.

And now, they think her tax returns are going to give us something downright juicy which will destroy her campaign.

These are all personal documents which shouldn't matter one way or another. Because Obama released his tax returns, doesn't mean Hillary is withholding vital information. It's just another chance for Obama to attack her for something that doesn't matter.

 

[Darthphere]

That info wouldn't show up on her tax return anyway. Now her bank records are a different story.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

News networks overanalyzed her schedule as First Lady a few days ago, because she was in the White House six times when Bill met with Monica Lewinsky.

Overanalyzing? Hmph. There wasn't much to analyze at all Jman. From what I've read and heard it sounds like she hasn't done anything remarkable as a First Lady. At least not remarkable enough to pick up any red phones.

 

[Darthphere]

Hmph. From what I've read and heard it sounds like she hasn't done anything remarkable as a First Lady. At least not remarkable enough to pick up any red phones.

Dude, she doesn't sleep, she'll be there at 3 am.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Dude, she doesn't sleep, she'll be there at 3 am.

LOL

Well, most vampires don't, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.