The Clinton Thread

[The Overlord]

So... people can't like Bill O'Reilly now? You've lost you're faith in humanity because there are people who disagree with you?

I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.

Also, if this makes O'Reilly a talentless hack like Britney Spears... what shameless pop diva does that make Keith Olbermann? Christina Aguilera? Jessica Simpson? Maybe even Jamie Lynn Spears?

Because most political pundits, with few exceptions in my opinion, are talentless hacks...

No, people can like him if they want, bad taste isn't a crime.

I'm embellishing obviously.

Its not that disagrees with me, its the way he present. I disagree William F. Buckley, but I wouldn't call him an idiot, Bill O'Reilly is an idiot, not because of his beliefs (though those seem to be subject to change, he's not even constant) but the fact he acts like an @ss clown and people reward him for it.

Most public American public pundits are idiots, that's the problem, civil discourse and common manners are becoming things of the past and yes O'Reilly is of the biggest offenders in this regard. Debates used to be intelligent and insightful, all you see on his show is a god damn circus. The fact that anyone sex fiend seriously, boggles the mind. This man is completely without class, more concerned with pandering to people, then informing people.

 

[StorminNorman]

No, people can like him if they want, bad taste isn't a crime.

I'm embellishing obviously.

Its not that disagrees with me, its the way he present. I disagree William F. Buckley, but I wouldn't call him an idiot, Bill O'Reilly is an idiot, not because of his beliefs (though those seem to be subject to change, he's not even constant) but the fact he acts like an @ss clown and people reward him for it.

Most public American public pundits are idiots, that's the problem, civil discourse and common manners are becoming things of the past and yes O'Reilly is of the biggest offenders in this regard. Debates used to be intelligent and insightful, all you see on his show is a god damn circus. The fact that anyone sex fiend seriously, boggles the mind. This man is completely without class, more concerned with pandering to people, then informing people.

...do you intentionally leave out words? Do you feel that if you make it harder to read your post, it makes it more thoughtful?

 

[lazur]

I watched the first two parts of this interview, and I have to say that while it didn't completely change my impression of Hillary, it certainly improved my impression.

Bill, being the jackass that he is, was wildly candid with her and he did ask her some pretty tough questions. There were a few moments when she went into 'talking point' mode, but for the most part she was calm, articulate and careful to address all of the points to his questions with what I considered to be very reasonable answers. It was interesting to see Bill agree with her answers even though his original questions came off as accusatory at times. For example, he told her that her 'Hillary medical care' would bankrupt the country, and Hillary responded that those who currently have health care (who make enough to afford it) would not be pushed to the new system. Bill went on to say that he didn't want to have to cover the health bills of drug users. Hillary countered that by asking him if he would want to help with the health care of a small boy with a fatal disease who doesn't have health care. Bill, of course, replied that he would.

I'm not saying that I'd vote for Hillary, but at least now I am looking at her as a possibility given her interview. Prior to seeing her 'be real' during the interview, all I'd ever experienced were her campaign speeches, which often came across as overly aggressive and preachy.

It was a good interview. I hope Hillary learns what she achieved by making the appearance and then adopts a similar approach when she's on the campaign trail, and I'd really like to see her do some Town Halls.

 

[Memphis Slim]

At least OReilly has guest on his show that differ from him ideologically. Hence the Clinton interview and many others.....

Olbermann only has his buddies on his show. That's why Bill slays him in the ratings.

People see thru his crap. He's a wuss. "SIR!"

Good nite and good luck....

 

[Addendum]

Though with regard to cable ratings, it's the same with sales for blu-ray as opposed to DVD.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Hmm, I think O'Reilly will go soft ball on her as most Republicans would prefer she gets the nomination, I'd imagine.

He didn't push her like he should have.

 

[Marx]

I can't stand Bill O'Reilly.

 

[Knives]

At least OReilly has guest on his show that differ from him ideologically. Hence the Clinton interview and many others.....

Olbermann only has his buddies on his show. That's why Bill slays him in the ratings.

People see thru his crap. He's a wuss. "SIR!"

Good nite and good luck....

Olbermann at least tells the truth, and touches on topic FOX or Billo will never in a million years talk about. Billo only appeals to the mindless lemmings who agree with the garbage he says. He's useless.

 

[MetalloX]

I can't stand Bill O'Reilly.

People who have brains can't either.

 

[Kelly]

People who have brains can't either.

I have a few friends that are big fans of O'Reilly, family members as well......I can assure you, they have brains, and they use them quite often. Generalizations like this usually are accompanied by ignorance of the dynamics of the issues.

 

[Handsome Rob]

I have a few friends that are big fans of O'Reilly, family members as well......I can assure you, they have brains, and they use them quite often. Generalizations like this usually are accompanied by ignorance of the dynamics of the issues.

I don't care for O'Reilly, myself. But, just the fact that so many on the left have such a seething hatred of him as well as Fox News Channel (which I don't have on my cable) makes having both him and FNC on the air so worth it.

 

[Marx]

I don't care for O'Reilly, myself. But, just the fact that so many on the left have such a seething hatred of him as well as Fox News Channel (which I don't have on my cable) makes having both him and FNC on the air so worth it.

The extremes of both major parties have their respective idiots. No one can deny that Rob.

 

[Handsome Rob]

The extremes of both major parties have their respective idiots. No one can deny that Rob.

Very true. I've disowned Michael Savage, after all. Still . . . t:

 

[comicgirl]

May I say that if I didn't think she was a pandering troll before...........





GOP suckup

 

[That'ssuper!]

I'm afraid she may go ahead with his announced plan to liberate Cuba using military force if they did not make a democratic reform by 2010. I don't think the world wants to see another illegal war in the name of freeing an oppressed people from their government.

 

[The Senator]

I'm afraid she may go ahead with his announced plan to liberate Cuba using military force if they did not make a democratic reform by 2010. I don't think the world wants to see another illegal war in the name of freeing an oppressed people from their government.

Where's the source which proves this claim?

 

[Venom'sDad]

I've done "Talk Radio" for a little more than two years... so I feel I have a pretty good pulse of the American psyche and American Politics. With that said, members of the Democrat Party Establishment are refusing to meet with billary. She is desparately trying to appeal for the Supers to back her.

I've said a few months ago, that the Establishment wants to rid themselves of the Clintons dominance and would back anyone who could lead the charge to vanquish them. Remember, this was suppose to be a coronation party for billary... a crowning ceremony if you will. Yet with all the drama that is surrounding Barrack Obama campaign, that would certainly doom any other candidate, billary, who was suppose to be inevitable, cannot not seem to gain any ground or reach over and grab his constituents. Now, there is real pressure for her to get out of the race. They gave her all the rope she needed to hang herself.

BUT... and this is a big BUT, she and Rev. Bill have completely divided the Democrat Party. Well, I say there is possibly more in store. I think billary may attempt the reck the party. Let me explain...

There is an unspoken rule for party candidates that candidates should not attack fellow candidates from the same party in a Primary. This is exactly what billary has been doing ever since she realize the party had turn on her and don't want her. She is doing the dirty work for McCain and the Republicans... in her attempt to ensure a run in 2012. My feeling is McCain is one and out, and if McCain could run for a second term, he will be very vulnerable. Unfortunate for her, Obama will most likely defeat McCain and may bring a few Senate & House seats with him.

So billary stragety may be, IMO, petition the Supers at the Convention; otherwise, she may be content to reck the Party by running as an Independent... effectively spliting the vote in the General Election enough for McCain to win(a la Ross Perot). If she does that, the Democrat Pary will never allow her to come back to the party and when her term is up as Senator, they will support one of their own to run against her(a la Lieberman). By that time, with her bruised feelings, she may not want to come back. The Clintons would be effectively vanquish from the Democrat Party... but at what cost.

So now she has a decision to make about her future with the Democrat Party. She is treading dangerous waters. I for one, hopes she dives right in.

This is why I say she's not worthy to become President, because she would put her own ambitions over the country's interest... regardless if it means recking the country. History has proven, most Socialist does exactly that... I say good riddance.

 

[Marx]

I've done "Talk Radio" for a little more than two years... so I feel I have a pretty good pulse of the American psyche and American Politics. With that said, members of the Democrat Party Establishment are refusing to meet with billary. She is desparately trying to appeal for the Supers to back her.

I've said a few months ago, that the Establishment wants to rid themselves of the Clintons dominance and would back anyone who could lead the charge to vanquish them. Remember, this was suppose to be a coronation party for billary... a crowning ceremony if you will. Yet with all the drama that is surrounding Barrack Obama campaign, that would certainly doom any other candidate, billary, who was suppose to be inevitable, cannot not seem to gain any ground or reach over and grab his constituents. Now, there is real pressure for her to get out of the race. They gave her all the rope she needed to hang herself.

BUT... and this is a big BUT, she and Rev. Bill have completely divided the Democrat Party. Well, I say there is possibly more in store. I think billary may attempt the reck the party. Let me explain...

There is an unspoken rule for party candidates that candidates should not attack fellow candidates from the same party in a Primary. This is exactly what billary has been doing ever since she realize the party had turn on her and don't want her. She is doing the dirty work for McCain and the Republicans... in her attempt to ensure a run in 2012. My feeling is McCain is one and out, and if McCain could run for a second term, he will be very vulnerable. Unfortunate for her, Obama will most likely defeat McCain and may bring a few Senate & House seats with him.

So billary stragety may be, IMO, petition the Supers at the Convention; otherwise, she may be content to reck the Party by running as an Independent... effectively spliting the vote in the General Election enough for McCain to win(a la Ross Perot). If she does that, the Democrat Pary will never allow her to come back to the party and when her term is up as Senator, they will support one of their own to run against her(a la Lieberman). By that time, with her bruised feelings, she may not want to come back. The Clintons would be effectively vanquish from the Democrat Party... but at what cost.

So now she has a decision to make about her future with the Democrat Party. She is treading dangerous waters. I for one, hopes she dives right in.

This is why I say she's not worthy to become President, because she would put her own ambitions over the country's interest... regardless if it means recking the country. History has proven, most Socialist does exactly that... I say good riddance.

Alot of politicians put their own interests ahead of the country's. George W. Bush is a prime example, and he's president.

 

[Malice]

I for the most part agree with what you have said.

 

[kainedamo]

If the supes nominate Hillary ahead of Obama if Obama still has the popular vote then it's basically a failure of democracy.

You can quote the rule book and say what you want about the rules of the party and such.

Doesn't change the fact that that's how I see it and that's how the voters will see it.

 

[Matt]

If the supes nominate Hillary ahead of Obama if Obama still has the popular vote then it's basically a failure of democracy.

You can quote the rule book and say what you want about the rules of the party and such.

Doesn't change the fact that that's how I see it and that's how the voters will see it.

Well, the DNC is a private institution, they do not have to be democratic. They can run whomever they'd like. They can tell both nominees "we don't want you, we want to run Hulk Hogan." and that is perfectly within their rights.

 

[rdh007]

Nah, Hulk's got too much baggage with the recent divorce and then the pics of him lathering up his daughter.

Two words: Rowdy Roddy

 

[Raiden]

Nah, Hulk's got too much baggage with the recent divorce and then the pics of him lathering up his daughter.

Two words: Rowdy Roddy

How about Kurt Angle, the Olympic hero?

 

[comicgirl]

How about Kurt Angle, the Olympic hero?

not tough enough....what about Stone Cold Steve Austin or the Undertaker?

 

[comicgirl]

Well, the DNC is a private institution, they do not have to be democratic. They can run whomever they'd like. They can tell both nominees "we don't want you, we want to run Hulk Hogan." and that is perfectly within their rights.

That doesn't make it right.........might as well pick you or me.....this whole thing is sickening












They're not totally stupid................Obama's got it.