The Cloverfield Paradox

[Grootster]

I'd be more than happy to see this whole Cloverfield "cinematic universe" crash and burn.

 

[Marvel united]

Disappointed that this is coming to Netflix. I love the idea of this being a theatrical anthology series. I loved the first two films

 

[Marvel united]

I'd be more than happy to see this whole Cloverfield "cinematic universe" crash and burn.

Why? The films have been really good so far

 

[Grootster]

Why? The films have been really good so far

I can't speak for the films themselves (I haven't seen them), but I don't get what they're trying to do with the overall universe. It seems like Abrams is just slapping his name on random movies and calling them part of the same universe. Weren't both Cloverfield Lane and the God Particle developed as standalone movies before Abrams stepped in? It seems like the laziest attempt at a connected universe ever.

 

[Arachnerd]

I can't speak for the films themselves (I haven't seen them), but I don't get what they're trying to do with the overall universe. It seems like Abrams is just slapping his name on random movies and calling them part of the same universe. Weren't both Cloverfield Lane and the God Particle developed as standalone movies before Abrams stepped in? It seems like the laziest attempt at a connected universe ever.

Seems more like an anthology series to me. Just with tenuous connections, excluding Tagruato.

 

[Grootster]

Seems more like an anthology series to me. Just with tenuous connections, excluding Tagruato.

That's fine, but wouldn't it make more sense to actually develop the movies as part of the same universe instead of finding movies that are already in the works? I actually like the idea of a connected universe where all the movies are different genres and not necessarily direct sequels, but the overall world should tie together between movies. It kind of feels like Abrams wants his own Marvel, but he doesn't want to put any work into it. Hopefully future movies tie together more.

 

[-JKR-]

That's fine, but wouldn't it make more sense to actually develop the movies as part of the same universe instead of finding movies that are already in the works? I actually like the idea of a connected universe where all the movies are different genres and not necessarily direct sequels, but the overall world should tie together between movies. It kind of feels like Abrams wants his own Marvel, but he doesn't want to put any work into it. Hopefully future movies tie together more.

It's an anthology series, and it's nothing like the MCU. Doesn't aim to be and doesn't have to be that. It doesn't have to coherently tie together. The Twilight Zone, Tales from the Crypt and Black Mirror episodes don't tie together, either. So no... no reason for it crash and burn. Not everything has to be done the same way Marvel Studios and Disney do it.

So do us all a favor and simply keep not watching them as other people enjoy something different. Thanks.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I like the idea behind the Cloverfield anthology, but I do think 10 Cloverfield Lane was better before the ending 10 mins of dodging CG carnage. I think having the aliens as a looming threat without that ending would have made the movie better.

 

[Marvel united]

I do hope they tie everything together in this movie. Is it a coincidence that Howard worked for Tagruato and after the monster attacked, suddenly everybody is dead and aliens are invading? Wonder if Clover was an alien bio weapon

 

[Arachnerd]

I do hope they tie everything together in this movie. Is it a coincidence that Howard worked for Tagruato and after the monster attacked, suddenly everybody is dead and aliens are invading? Wonder if Clover was an alien bio weapon

I would totally be on board with this concept if Abrams ever intends to actually tie them together as a single universe.

Though, he confirmed shortly after Cloverfield came out that the monster was prehistoric and still a baby, so I don't know. Gotta give the guy credit though. He knows how to keep things under wraps extremely well.

 

[Grootster]

It's an anthology series, and it's nothing like the MCU. Doesn't aim to be and doesn't have to be that. It doesn't have to coherently tie together. The Twilight Zone, Tales from the Crypt and Black Mirror episodes don't tie together, either. So no... no reason for it crash and burn. Not everything has to be done the same way Disney does it.

These movies are popular and make money. So do us all a favor and simply keep not watching them as other people enjoy something different. Thanks.

Those shows are intentionally developed to be the way they are. Twilight Zone episodes usually feature a weird premise with a moral, so the episodes connect through a consistent concept. I know little about the other two you mentioned, but from what I gather those episodes also have running themes.

Abrams isn't developing an anthology, he's slapping his name on random movies and calling them a connected universe. I'm not saying it has to be done like Marvel, but there needs to be something constant between these movies, even if it's just a running theme or idea. Financing random movies and renaming them "Cloverfield" is not how (good) anthologies are created, it's beyond lazy. I'm legitimately not sure if Abrams thinks he is creating something great and groundbreaking here, or it's just a cheap marketing technique to sell tickets.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I like the idea behind the Cloverfield anthology, but I do think 10 Cloverfield Lane was better before the ending 10 mins of dodging CG carnage. I think having the aliens as a looming threat without that ending would have made the movie better.

I like that payoff. Especially how it paints Howard. He's right without being right, and thus Michelle is right to run from him.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Those shows are intentionally developed to be the way they are. Twilight Zone episodes usually feature a weird premise with a moral, so the episodes connect through a consistent concept. I know little about the other two you mentioned, but from what I gather those episodes also have running themes.

Abrams isn't developing an anthology, he's slapping his name on random movies and calling them a connected universe. I'm not saying it has to be done like Marvel, but there needs to be something constant between these movies, even if it's just a running theme or idea. Financing random movies and renaming them "Cloverfield" is not how (good) anthologies are created, it's beyond lazy. I'm legitimately not sure if Abrams thinks he is creating something great and groundbreaking here, or it's just a cheap marketing technique to sell tickets.

So you haven't seen the movies, but can pass all this judgment. Yeah, you just don't like JJ. They are "Cloverfield" movies to give these little films an actual chance to be made. Like how many Black Mirror stories only exist because they are under the Black Mirror banner.

 

[harlequinade]

Sources say the movie needed some work and while Abrams expressed an intent to get down to business in post-production, it was too little, too late. Several sources suggested that Abrams’ attention may be taken by his unexpected new assignment, the final installment of the Star Wars Skywalker episodes, which he signed on to in September after the firing of director Colin Trevorrow.

That's not good :/

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I'm just sitting here still waiting to find out what happened after the hammerdown protocol in the first film

I shall continue to wait.

 

[Arachnerd]

I'm just sitting here still waiting to find out what happened after the hammerdown protocol in the first film

I shall continue to wait.

Baby Clover got killed. That's about all we know.

 

[Broseph44]

I like that payoff. Especially how it paints Howard. He's right without being right, and thus Michelle is right to run from him.

I also enjoy the payoff at the end with the Alien reveal

 

[Kane52630]

I'd be more than happy to see this whole Cloverfield "cinematic universe" crash and burn.

I can't speak for the films themselves (I haven't seen them),....

 

[DarthSkywalker]

 

[Arachnerd]

That moment when you state you haven't seen the movies you're criticizing and lose all merit of opinion.

 

[Grootster]

I'm not judging the quality of the individual films, I'm talking about the Cloverfield universe overall (which has been covered in news articles.)

That moment when you state you haven't seen the movies you're criticizing and lose all merit of opinion.

Good thing I'm not criticizing the movies.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Baby Clover got killed. That's about all we know.

The potential for a sequel of a pissed off family of clovers looking for their baby had me pretty excited for quite a while. That’s how I thought 10CL would end. Mary Winstead gets out of the cellar, drives to the nearest big city with the truck and sees a bunch of adult clover monsters tearing **** up.

 

[Marvolo]

I'm not judging the quality of the individual films, I'm talking about the Cloverfield universe overall (which has been covered in news articles.)



Good thing I'm not criticizing the movies.

Wanting something to crash and burn is in itself a judgement against that thing. A negative opinion against a thing. It's like telling a stranger, "I want you to die." Or saying, "I want that building to burn down." Etc. To any person with a grasp of language and common sense those are judgements.

 

[Grootster]

Wanting something to crash and burn is in itself a judgement against that thing. A negative opinion against a thing. It's like telling a stranger, "I want you to die." Or saying, "I want that building to burn down." Etc. To any person with a grasp of language and common sense those are judgements.

I wish no ill upon the individual movies, I just want them to succeed on their own without being part of Abrams' nonsense universe. I want that concept to fall through.

 

[Marvolo]

I wish no ill upon the individual movies, I just want them to succeed on their own without being part of Abrams' nonsense universe. I want that concept to fall through.

The films are there own things. No plot elements from one film carry over into the other. You'd know this if you'd watch the films.