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[Batman713]

Anybody know what Lucius is taking about in this line:

(when Batman's looking through his sonar vision for the first time)

Lucius Fox: You've got p.o.v. on alpha, omni on beta

 

[The_Raganork]

Anybody know what Lucius is taking about in this line:

(when Batman's looking through his sonar vision for the first time)

Lucius Fox: You've got p.o.v. on alpha, omni on beta

I believe the line is

Fox: You've got P.O.V. on Alpha, Audio on beta


Thats what I always heard. I was Just assuming he was getting the visual feed combined with the Audio renderings

 

[Batman713]

ah I see, I wrote what was written in the script though the film line makes more sense

 

[frodawgg]

I was thinking about this the other day and figured that Lau would put it together. He meets with Bruce during the day, and that very same night gets attacked by Batman, both from Gotham, in Hong Kong at the same time.

 

[Magenta666]

I was thinking about this the other day and figured that Lau would put it together. He meets with Bruce during the day, and that very same night gets attacked by Batman, both from Gotham, in Hong Kong at the same time.

maybe, but he met Fox not Bruce, i dont think he knew Bruce was there

plus hes a smoldering pile of ash now....so it doesnt really matter

 

[moguy]

You guys act like you have never been on a plane.
The cockpit is sealed off from the rest of the plane, they would not have seen what was in the back area.
The smugglers would have been paid to just fly the plane, don't look in the back, and don't ask questions.

That's what I figured.

Knock out and blind fold Lau, and get out of the Bat costume. Minimize all contact with crew.

 

[Lead_Tester]

I've seen the movie about ten times now and it finally hit me. Did Batman just reveal himself as Bruce Wayne in the movie? If you notice, he hires a flight crew to pick him up from his boat and swims with all his equipment towards the plane. When he finally catches Lau, he has them pick him up by sky-hooking and of course he gets on board in the Batman outfit.

Not only that but I read the script and the airplane jump scene was omitted from the actual film. If I remember correctly, the pilot gives Bruce the thumbs up to jump down from the plan and that's how he arrives in Hong Kong.

Anyone notice this?

Let me get this straight...

You saw the movie 10 times and you didn't realized that the guy who takes Bruce to Hong Kong is not the same bunch of koreans that take batman back to Gotham?

The guy who picks him up in the sea is from Arizona or something and the guy who take him back are korean smugglers who flight low to avoid the radar.

 

[The_Raganork]

ah I see, I wrote what was written in the script though the film line makes more sense

If it's in the script it's right; so in that case I do not have an answer...

 

[JonnyQ]

Guys I really don't understand what happened in the scene with Coleman Reece in the car with Gordon and the other officer.
Can anyone explain the concept of it to me. The thing with the Officer Berg and Bruce driving in front of the car at the lights etc..?

Thank you.

 

[Nepenthes]

Joker announces that if Coleman isn't dead in an hour he'll blow up a hospital, everyone becomes hysterical because they know he'll probably follow through. That's when the crowd gathers outside the TV station and a guy shoots at Reese. Bruce tells Alfred to cross check police who have family in hospital, since the police are guarding Reese, and if any are scared for their own family they might be tempted to kill Reese themselves. Which is what Berg does, his wife is in the hospital. Just as Gordon is wrestling with Berg Bruce notices a guy in another car glaring at them and getting ready to drive into the side of the police wagon. Bruce puts the lambo in between the truck and the police wagon just in time, pretending he was speeding to catch a light. Make sense?

 

[JonnyQ]

That is exactly what I needed to know sir thank you .

I was getting confused with the other guy glaring at them. I was confused how he fit into things.

 

[darknight7]

I'm guessing Lau is driving the cop car when Joker is hanging out the window (because he is hanging out the back window, and you can see that won hand is out the window and the other is holding onto the safety handle above the window...

but I wish the Joker was driving (just because you noticed he is all over the road at that part) and that is something the Joker would do (drive all over the road)...but it is infact Lau who is driving.

In the trailer I originally thought it was Joker driving, and I guess when I see the movie now...I still try to imagine it being the Joker driving lol...

Did anyone else question this scene originally? Or was it completely obvious that he wasn't driving to everyone else?

--dk7

 

[darknight7]

Whoever was flying Batman in and out of Hong Kong (wouldn't they know he is Batman?)

I'm sure there is an explanation for this...but I'm just a bit fuzzy on the whole idea

--dk7

 

[Nepenthes]

maybe Batman simply scares the hell out of them. they were hired by the batman and that's all they know, best they keep their mouths shut especially since they are criminal smugglers flying under radar, sure that's illegal. it's interesting to think about what kind of reputation this would give batman in the international criminal underworld. Also the question of paying criminals for help, we don't know if Bruce really paid them or not. he either had to find a way to rip them off or he's contributing to crime


I thought Joker was in the front seat driver side. you can see the smaller window in front of him looks like the front door

 

[batman11]

I'm guessing Lau is driving the cop car when Joker is hanging out the window (because he is hanging out the back window, and you can see that won hand is out the window and the other is holding onto the safety handle above the window...

but I wish the Joker was driving (just because you noticed he is all over the road at that part) and that is something the Joker would do (drive all over the road)...but it is infact Lau who is driving.

In the trailer I originally thought it was Joker driving, and I guess when I see the movie now...I still try to imagine it being the Joker driving lol...

Did anyone else question this scene originally? Or was it completely obvious that he wasn't driving to everyone else?

--dk7

I highly doubt it was Lau driving bro. I would assume it was one of Joker's thugs he sprung free from the MCU. If you remember back to that scene, you may recall that you can see another cop car behind the Joker also swerving out of control. I assume that he freed all his goons, and they escaped in police cars. Lau could have been bound and gagged in any one of them.

 

[darknight7]

hmmm never thought of it that way...I always saw it as REAL cops chasing him...but i like your way better

--dk7

I highly doubt it was Lau driving bro. I would assume it was one of Joker's thugs he sprung free from the MCU. If you remember back to that scene, you may recall that you can see another cop car behind the Joker also swerving out of control. I assume that he freed all his goons, and they escaped in police cars. Lau could have been bound and gagged in any one of them.

 

[wootbaby]

maybe Batman simply scares the hell out of them. they were hired by the batman and that's all they know, best they keep their mouths shut especially since they are criminal smugglers flying under radar, sure that's illegal. it's interesting to think about what kind of reputation this would give batman in the internal criminal underworld. Also the question of paying criminals for help, we don't know if Bruce really paid them or not. he either had to find a way to rip them off or he's contributing to crime

they're not criminals like sal maroni or falcone, they're smugglers in and out of north korea. they probably smuggle things like medicine and people as well as contraband and do work for the south korean government, US government etc.

it's basically a morally neutral setup, sure they violate North Korea's airspace, that's an illegal regime in most people's eyes whose laws are bogus... I guess if you're a hardcore communist what they're doing seems really wrong. "contributing to crime" seems like a kind of odd way to look at things since ultimately what they're doing is undermining an oppressive government

I took away that these men were politically and morally ambiguous... they just do the job for money. even if they knew it was batman they wouldn't really care... would you care if some IRA guy paid you to transport him somewhere? I really doubt they give a **** about what's going on in Gotham and in their line of work they see all kinds of crazy ****.

It's common knowledge that Batman kidnapped Lau, so korean smugglers who had first hand knowledge of the event wouldn't be any huge shock... so what? they know they picked up batman in HK... doesn't mean they know anything about him other than that

 

[Nepenthes]

they're not criminals like sal maroni or falcone, they're smugglers in and out of north korea. they probably smuggle things like medicine and people as well as contraband and do work for the south korean government, US government etc.

it's basically a morally neutral setup, sure they violate North Korea's airspace, that's an illegal regime in most people's eyes whose laws are bogus... I guess if you're a hardcore communist what they're doing seems really wrong. "contributing to crime" seems like a kind of odd way to look at things since ultimately what they're doing is undermining an oppressive government

I took away that these men were politically and morally ambiguous... they just do the job for money. even if they knew it was batman they wouldn't really care... would you care if some IRA guy paid you to transport him somewhere? I really doubt they give a **** about what's going on in Gotham and in their line of work they see all kinds of crazy ****.

It's common knowledge that Batman kidnapped Lau, so korean smugglers who had first hand knowledge of the event wouldn't be any huge shock... so what? they know they picked up batman in HK... doesn't mean they know anything about him other than that

hmm. we really have no way of guessing how criminal they are or not, I wonder if that was left purposefully vague. I didn't think of that possibility you mention and you're right it is an interesting thing to consider. In one way I like the idea that Batman would turn to criminals for morally questionable help, mirroring activities of the US government of course. At the same time the idea he deals in a kind of international fraternity of underground 'relief workers' and resistance to tyranny is also pretty cool. Either way it's still best that they did it only for the money, what do they care about Lau and Gotham mafia, even if they ARE North Korean resistance. And I'm sure it was all no questions asked, no answers given. Both scenarios are so cool it's difficult and probably pointless to pick one answer, so yeah I reckon it was left vague deliberately.

 

[wootbaby]

hmm. we really have no way of guessing how criminal they are or not, I wonder if that was left purposefully vague. I didn't think of that possibility you mention and you're right it is an interesting thing to consider. In one way I like the idea that Batman would turn to criminals for morally questionable help, mirroring activities of the US government of course. At the same time the idea he deals in a kind of international fraternity of underground 'relief workers' and resistance to tyranny is also pretty cool. Either way it's still best that they did it only for the money, what do they care about Lau and Gotham mafia, even if they ARE North Korean resistance. And I'm sure it was all no questions asked, no answers given. Both scenarios are so cool it's difficult and probably pointless to pick one answer, so yeah I reckon it was left vague deliberately.

yeah I agree. it's just another cool thing Nolan did with the movie... it's basically a throwaway line about north korean smugglers but obviously he put it in there for a reason and it adds a lot of texture and possibilities to the background of the movie. also the fact that he adds the line about buying the plane from a guy in arizona... it makes it possible that there are 2 crews, which would allow bruce to manage not letting anyone know the full extent of his plan

he obviously knew there would be some guy out there a month after the movie came out asking... why didn't the pilot know it was bruce/batman. in 5 seconds of dialogue Nolan shows he was thoughtful about the details

 

[The-Dark-Knight]

What colour isthe jokers waistcoat at the back?

 

[Schlosser85]

Does anyone know what the music is that's playing at the nightclub where Batman comes to get Maroni?

 

[Goodfellas]

Because think about it the two cops that picked up Dent and Rachel were cops that were on maronis payrol right?

So how did the Joker have them be a part of his plan when they work for Maroni?

So i guess seeinfg is how The Joker was being payed to do it by maroni and compamy, maron ler the joker use a couple cops for a part pf his scheme?

This is the one part that baffles me


and Honeslty why didnt Dent kill Joker? I mean yeah he wanted to get the people who let him loose so to speak, but still the mob wanted him to kill Batman not Dent ..so shouldnt Dent be mainly mad at Joker... i mean i understand him killing maroni but if i were him id kill joker to right? or at least in thr movie try to

 

[Schlosser85]

and Honeslty why didnt Dent kill Joker? I mean yeah he wanted to get the people who let him loose so to speak, but still the mob wanted him to kill Batman not Dent ..so shouldnt Dent be mainly mad at Joker... i mean i understand him killing maroni but if i were him id kill joker to right? or at least in thr movie try to

Because the coin came up on the good side and Two-Face has to obey his coin.

 

[TonySoprano]

Can somebody tell me why the "Joker and a goon escaping from the party in a car"-scene was cut?
It's in the script and I guess we all remember this picture so the scene was definitely shot:

I'd also like to know if anybody knows why that "Batman jumps over police cars"-bit from the comicon trailer was cut and when in the movie it is supposed to happen.

 

[johnlennon696]

That is one scene i would like to see in the DVD, but it won't happen

It is a logical scene to put in the movie IMO, as it shows Joker leaving the party. I think Nolan should at least be questioned on this scene...